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Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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Posted by: McTurtle420
one word MAGNUM
The magnum...... oh how I love thee. strafing battle rifle -blam!-s 4 shotted by dual mags, The battle rifle should have its own playlists. Make separate social slayer playlists (so to speak as an example) make a social slayer playlist with only battle rifle spawns and no ars and such on the map, then another with ar and magnum spawns with no brs on the map, the best of both, theyd both have a decent amount of players in them.

  • 12.24.2009 7:23 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

I've seen my family fade away, You've taken my whole life left me nothing to say. Sitting in silence with heaven above me i prayed every night by their graves. I search for closure i feel it no longer i can't turn my face away. I stand before you Ive seen what I've had to but now i leave your sight to avenge my family, I've taken my whole life there's nothing left to say.

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youre dumb. if the br was taken out nobody would play.
You're right, because everyone would start doing badly without their precious over-powered BR.

If Bungie took the BR out of matchmaking for one day, I bet all of those "god" Halo 3 players would suck.

Shadow Wolf7347 also said something like that waaay back in this forum.


nope, i'll just 5 shot magnum/ use the carine and still win
Thats the thing. The carbine is harder to use than the br. As is the magnum, per say, you have to aim each individual shot with those two weapons as opposed to the brs magnetized bursts, you have to be able to pull the trigger at an ok rate and aim individually and a shorter clip so if you miss a few you have to reload, and most br users can't carbine to save their life. Same with the magnum, I say they take it out for a day. Don't just talk it, if you wouldn't suck support it. PROVE you can actually play without it.

  • 12.24.2009 7:36 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

I've seen my family fade away, You've taken my whole life left me nothing to say. Sitting in silence with heaven above me i prayed every night by their graves. I search for closure i feel it no longer i can't turn my face away. I stand before you Ive seen what I've had to but now i leave your sight to avenge my family, I've taken my whole life there's nothing left to say.

Posted by: Scobra Rlz d00d
Personally, I love the AR. I always enjoy AR starts a lot more than BR starts because it has something that BR starts doesn't: Variety. In a BR starts game, it's always the same clack-clack BR fighting with the occasional Sniper Rifle or Rocket Launcher or any other power weapons. It's bland and repetitive. With AR starts, you get a lot of different fights with varying weapons going on. You get some AR vs Dual Spiker fights, some Needler vs AR fights, etc. Plus, you have a very under appreciated back up weapon: The Magnum, or what I like to call the 'Semi-Nerfed BR.' From personal experience, I always tend to have more fun in an AR starts game than a BR starts game, no matter what. Plus, being proficient with the Assault Rifle is harder than being proficient with the Battle Rifle. With the BR, you can just Run-N-Gun. At least with the AR, you actually have to think sometimes.
So true, Lol. my favorite weapon in halo is the plasma rifle. i love it when I play a game and the weapon i see used the most are the ones that are "fun" I love dual wielding battles mix it up a bit spiker pr or smg throw in a mauler or magnum, It makes it fun. Straight up br games are dull there just flat out annoying.

  • 12.24.2009 7:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Holly Johnson
the ar is no weapon, it is a shame. i would like to know how many kills overall are make with this hostgun. 70%? or more?

everytime i stand with a shotgun in a bubbleshield and an american ar wielder comes inside to beat me up i know, this weapon is way to powerfull for a startingweapon especially because it doesnt require aiming skills.
together with the rediculous spawningpoints on the smaller maps and the too many nades its the only weapon someone with a good connection needs to own much better players which cant get a single kill with their offhost ar.
i truely hate the ar, it is unbalanced as hell
No. simply No. The ar in the hosts hand can still be outfired by an off host ar, if you try to say halo's host machine gun is crap go try gears 1. all of the weapons take the same "aiming skill btw" except maybe the sniper or magnum. Its not the 'american ar weilder" you probably have a slow connection and don't want to admit it. i am rarely ever the host i can kill with the ar and mostly everything else in the game. even the dreaded power weapon known as the GOOSE. A single shot Br would be better more like the carbine

  • 12.24.2009 7:56 PM PDT

BOOM

Posted by: erik929
i like the BR but it needs a new color


what do you mean new colour? its black... it would look wierd any other colour

  • 12.26.2009 12:37 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

10% luck 20% skill 70% concentrated power of will.

Honestly it's not... It's his opinion and this is a forum designed so people can post their opinions and NOT be criticized about it. Your one of those people who just has to comment on everything aren't you? Ah yes I'm familiar with your type.

  • 12.27.2009 1:44 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

10% luck 20% skill 70% concentrated power of will.

Yeah there basically is one of those playlists... It's called MLG. Only BR and power weapons. There you go. Only drawback is that 1. It's ranked 2. There's no radar (that's not really a big deal though) and 3. If your team does bad the rest of the team suffers. Bungie this is to you. Fix the ranking system. Your skill is calculated more by your win to loss ratio than anything else. I've gotten a freaking invincible and we lost the match and I end up skilling from a 34 to a 33... I was furious. Please try to fix this as best you can. Thanks in advance for anything you can do. Bye everyone.

  • 12.27.2009 1:50 AM PDT
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BR > AR. Simple. :)

  • 12.27.2009 1:06 PM PDT
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I THINK THE REASON PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BR IS THE FACT NOOBS TRY TO USE IT BY RUNNING INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COMBAT AND USING IT LIKE A AR. AT CLOSE RANGE

  • 12.27.2009 2:28 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Oh good, J4YDOG511, another dumbass who thinks hes amazing because he can kill some one with a battle rifle, and judges my knowing of the game by my rank.

First of all, you wasted practically half of your post calling me a Burger King.

Second: The Assault Rifle doesn't take as much skill as the Battle Rifle. But the battle rifle takes so little skill that you can't go on saying every gun that isn't long range or isn't a battle rifle that kills you is "Nooby".

Third, you're basically proving my freaking point by saying the BR is "The perfect weapon" and is "beast".

Fourth, a shotgun can't shoot across the map. Try it sometime, next time you have the shotgun, try shooting someone a mile away, oh wait, you'll never have a shotgun cuz all you use is the damn battle rifle.

Fifth: What the hell did my rank have to do with my knowledge of this game. So you say that at 50 in mlg people use the br differently, which I'm assuming is the "3 body shot and 1 headshot" move.

Sixth: You say the pros can counter most weapons with a BR with the right skill. My point is could they do the same with any other freaking weapon the the BR? No, probably not. So then they can only counter such things with battle rifles? Man those BR's must be pretty damn cheap, maybe even overpowered

You're wrong, and please get over yourself.

  • 12.27.2009 2:35 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Posted by: Shocking Matty
any one know how many shots before a melee it takes to kill some one with the BR, i know it takes seven or so shots to kill someone with an AR??
It takes six shots with an AR before you can melee the player. And it takes seven or eight shots with a battle rifle.

[Edited on 12.27.2009 2:45 PM PST]

  • 12.27.2009 2:36 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Posted by: CRAIGNAB
I THINK THE REASON PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BR IS THE FACT NOOBS TRY TO USE IT BY RUNNING INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE COMBAT AND USING IT LIKE A AR. AT CLOSE RANGE


I THINK THE REASON YOU HAVE FRIENDS THAT HATE YOU IS BECAUSE YOU TYPE IN ALL-CAPS!

[Edited on 12.27.2009 2:42 PM PST]

  • 12.27.2009 2:41 PM PDT

-HaloKing3536

BR rapes all the way

  • 12.27.2009 4:41 PM PDT

I play Team Slayer and personally i don't mind whether it's Ar starts or Br starts. When somebody charges at me with a Ar i just shoot at them with the Br while backing away at the same time as strafing, it works pretty much every time for me. I don't see whats up with these people who are complaining about 'noobs' shooting at them with Ar. It doesn't affect me so its obvious that these people don't have the skills to handle these so called 'noobs'.

  • 12.28.2009 12:12 PM PDT

I've seen my family fade away, You've taken my whole life left me nothing to say. Sitting in silence with heaven above me i prayed every night by their graves. I search for closure i feel it no longer i can't turn my face away. I stand before you Ive seen what I've had to but now i leave your sight to avenge my family, I've taken my whole life there's nothing left to say.

Posted by: J4YDOG511
First of all i would like to say that husky is a colonel g2 and is a BK
I'm sorry that the BR can shoot across the map and shoot up close, and the AR can't. You know what else can't shoot across the map. A shotgun. Does that mean that the Shotgun takes more skill to use than the Br u BK. Your horrible don't talk about pros when u don't play, talk or know any of them they think the AR is "Nooby" also because it is. You don't have to strafe with it or lead your shots. The carbine I (along with most sane people) think it takes more skill to use than the BR. Facts are is the AR is a 2 sec burst and then a beat down to kill. The BR is a 2shot beatdown kill also but when you get to a high enough level (which i know you haven't, BK)people don't do this. I bet your asking how do I know this. Ohh maybe it's because I'm a 50 in MLG and play against high level people every day. Also the Br is the perfect weapon because it can shoot all over the map, you can't complain that the other team has the sniper because (although it offers them an advantage)you can still counter it, with the AR can you do that. NO because you have to be within a close distance. If the only weapon that was to be used was the AR or BR u might be right, but it isn't. If you have the BR and the other team has a power weapon (sniper, Rockets, etc.) than you can counter it but they still have an advantage. With the AR it is harder and much more difficult. But this does not make the BR a power weapon, because it is not a 1 shot kill, it is beast i agree but so many other things can counter it. It is not over powered because so many things own it at so may levels if not used right. Shot gun face to face, BR probably looses. Sniper - BR long range sniper probably wins. It is versatile but not over powered and that is why it is the best gun to start out with. If you have a BR(and can use it well, unlike husky) you are never at too far of a disposition, you ever wonder why pros dont get owned as often you never see a match end 50-12. Because they have the BR and can counter rockets and sniper and such, because they have that skill with the BR. and maybe the reason people keep coming back to halo is because the BR. And dont say Halo CE because it didn't have the BR in it, it also didn't have a online multilayer only LAN. Also you pointed out that if you have map control and have skill with one weapon you will win. Lets take narrows flag for instance if all teams have ARs would it play out different, you cant really set up on them so map control would be useless, because you can only shoot short range, witch would eliminate spawn camping, and predicting spawns. Which would throw off the game, and once some one started running the flag there would be no stopping him, no long range assault at flag or mid at top mid. only close which would mean that you only have to defend close, which would use less skill. yeah i was ranting but got out some points so yeah that is my final statement. BR>AR but is not overpowered.
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  • 12.28.2009 5:04 PM PDT

I've seen my family fade away, You've taken my whole life left me nothing to say. Sitting in silence with heaven above me i prayed every night by their graves. I search for closure i feel it no longer i can't turn my face away. I stand before you Ive seen what I've had to but now i leave your sight to avenge my family, I've taken my whole life there's nothing left to say.

Posted by: J4YDOG511
First of all i would like to say that husky is a colonel g2 and is a BK
I'm sorry that the BR can shoot across the map and shoot up close, and the AR can't. You know what else can't shoot across the map. A shotgun. Does that mean that the Shotgun takes more skill to use than the Br u BK. Your horrible don't talk about pros when u don't play, talk or know any of them they think the AR is "Nooby" also because it is. You don't have to strafe with it or lead your shots. The carbine I (along with most sane people) think it takes more skill to use than the BR. Facts are is the AR is a 2 sec burst and then a beat down to kill. The BR is a 2shot beatdown kill also but when you get to a high enough level (which i know you haven't, BK)people don't do this. I bet your asking how do I know this. Ohh maybe it's because I'm a 50 in MLG and play against high level people every day. Also the Br is the perfect weapon because it can shoot all over the map, you can't complain that the other team has the sniper because (although it offers them an advantage)you can still counter it, with the AR can you do that. NO because you have to be within a close distance. If the only weapon that was to be used was the AR or BR u might be right, but it isn't. If you have the BR and the other team has a power weapon (sniper, Rockets, etc.) than you can counter it but they still have an advantage. With the AR it is harder and much more difficult. But this does not make the BR a power weapon, because it is not a 1 shot kill, it is beast i agree but so many other things can counter it. It is not over powered because so many things own it at so may levels if not used right. Shot gun face to face, BR probably looses. Sniper - BR long range sniper probably wins. It is versatile but not over powered and that is why it is the best gun to start out with. If you have a BR(and can use it well, unlike husky) you are never at too far of a disposition, you ever wonder why pros dont get owned as often you never see a match end 50-12. Because they have the BR and can counter rockets and sniper and such, because they have that skill with the BR. and maybe the reason people keep coming back to halo is because the BR. And dont say Halo CE because it didn't have the BR in it, it also didn't have a online multilayer only LAN. Also you pointed out that if you have map control and have skill with one weapon you will win. Lets take narrows flag for instance if all teams have ARs would it play out different, you cant really set up on them so map control would be useless, because you can only shoot short range, witch would eliminate spawn camping, and predicting spawns. Which would throw off the game, and once some one started running the flag there would be no stopping him, no long range assault at flag or mid at top mid. only close which would mean that you only have to defend close, which would use less skill. yeah i was ranting but got out some points so yeah that is my final statement. BR>AR but is not overpowered.
Oh and your wrong on nearly all of statements. I've played this game more than you, longer than you and won more games than you. You're the kind that only spams a br in the game. then gets beat down by an ar and screams THAT KIDS A SCRUB/BK etc. etc. Rank means nothing. Don't try to further your incessant bull -blam!-, by saying your a bk colonel to anyone. i have destroyed teams of generals only to get owned the next game by a team of staffs and first lieutenants. Oh and its going to be your first instinct to try to insult me. but i haven't played a ranked game of my highest skill in nearly a year. Real players play for fun not to win. Not to try to insult the other team calling them some dumb -blam!- slang insult with no real meaning."BK's" I feel more insulted when called a dick

[Edited on 12.28.2009 5:13 PM PST]

  • 12.28.2009 5:09 PM PDT

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Posted By: DooMBrIIngeR
"i have been playin reech it is kewl game i like 2 spam armer lawk in it its fun and i win against good peopls. i plai cod alot so idk much about halo. wat is halo ce?"

I don't quite understand why they call it a noob gun. I started my online career and I could stand it. I thought why in the world does anyone use it, this is junk. It took about a month of charging guys with my AR and getting beat down a billion times to think about strategy. I now love the BR and don't use my assult rifle 90% of the time anymore. I think it's a coming of age thing.
Thats my thoughts....

  • 12.28.2009 6:52 PM PDT

I've seen my family fade away, You've taken my whole life left me nothing to say. Sitting in silence with heaven above me i prayed every night by their graves. I search for closure i feel it no longer i can't turn my face away. I stand before you Ive seen what I've had to but now i leave your sight to avenge my family, I've taken my whole life there's nothing left to say.

Posted by: fxhomedude
I don't quite understand why they call it a noob gun. I started my online career and I could stand it. I thought why in the world does anyone use it, this is junk. It took about a month of charging guys with my AR and getting beat down a billion times to think about strategy. I now love the BR and don't use my assult rifle 90% of the time anymore. I think it's a coming of age thing.
Thats my thoughts....
you people do know you can use strategy with anything? Its not just limited to a battle rifle.

  • 12.28.2009 7:07 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

I think it just depends on the user. The BR is my tool of destruction and Ive never had a problem with it. I pick the BR over anything. Unless ofcourse I am overwhelmed with the flood, then I go with the AR.

  • 12.29.2009 2:02 AM PDT

Just give both in all game types. To each their own right? If you like the 'sandbox' then use the AR and some other weapon. Almost every map has a sniper rifle and an AR just isn't able to knock a player with a snipe out of scope. You need to have a mid-long range weapon to combat that. Bungie talks about balance all the time, maybe they should just listen to the players to realize that AR starts for everything just doesn't work in all scenarios/maps.

  • 12.29.2009 8:48 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

The next person to assume I am talking about ranked, do us all a favor and look at what I play!

Rapid fire FTW!

And after reading all these super pro-BR responsees, I have to say this: There's a reason why militaries switched from bolt-action to automatic.

  • 12.29.2009 11:59 AM PDT

I once journeyed into the 5th page of the flood forums. The things I saw there, the topics that had been started, the trolls.....I cant speak about what I saw.

you people do know you can use strategy with anything? Its not just limited to a battle rifle.
Think of it as a different level of stategy. Does it take great aim and a good plan ( and luck) to take a guy down with an magnum. Heck yea. It's a sidearm that why, it's not meant to be the primary weapon. The same for the BR. It's intended for taking opponents down at medium distance. Whe n I started my basic plan was to bull rush someone with my AR and pray I got luck. After being the goat of multiple games I started to aviod head on conflicts and took my time line up my target, not being seen etc. Of course everything has a strategy to it, its just how much it has.
EDIT: Apoligies Im the same guy as the fxhomehome dude, I get mixed up between two accounts.

[Edited on 12.29.2009 1:07 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2009 1:06 PM PDT

Posted By: The Gaming Lord:
" xXSAVIORS0ULXx has basically hit the credit cap everyday since release. His parents must be so proud."

Posted By: DooMBrIIngeR
"i have been playin reech it is kewl game i like 2 spam armer lawk in it its fun and i win against good peopls. i plai cod alot so idk much about halo. wat is halo ce?"

Same with the magnum, I say they take it out for a day. Don't just talk it, if you wouldn't **** support it. PROVE you can actually play without it.
I believe I could live without it (BR magnum, carbine....) for a day and keep my rank.
I have a question as well. At the skill level of 2500 exp points does the game become competitive anymore?

[Edited on 12.29.2009 1:57 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2009 1:48 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

Remember Reach....forget Black Ops.

They are ok guns i guess you dont feel much power in the AR as you would the BR though

  • 12.29.2009 8:43 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

I've seen my family fade away, You've taken my whole life left me nothing to say. Sitting in silence with heaven above me i prayed every night by their graves. I search for closure i feel it no longer i can't turn my face away. I stand before you Ive seen what I've had to but now i leave your sight to avenge my family, I've taken my whole life there's nothing left to say.

Posted by: fxhomedude
Same with the magnum, I say they take it out for a day. Don't just talk it, if you wouldn't **** support it. PROVE you can actually play without it.
I believe I could live without it (BR magnum, carbine....) for a day and keep my rank.
I have a question as well. At the skill level of 2500 exp points does the game become competitive anymore?
At the point I'm at with my nearly 10k games played O.o. I just play for fun mostly. Its just annoying playing social slayer and getting spammed hate mail and constantly degraded because I choose the magnum and carbine over the br and I actually do good.

  • 12.29.2009 9:22 PM PDT