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Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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I love the br but I am happy they brought the ar back

  • 01.03.2010 5:50 PM PDT

Yo Dave

Love the BR :)

  • 01.04.2010 12:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Adamski1996
if you start off with a ar when a noob then you get used to that, same with the br. it just depends what your used to

Agreed. Which screwed my learning curve because I got used to Plasma Grenades early.

  • 01.04.2010 12:21 AM PDT

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With regards to the claim of the BR being overpowered:

Surely this is only true when battling against someone with an inferior weapon? In a BR vs BR battle it can't be overpowered as the effectivenes is based on the players' strafing and aiming capabilities.

In short; it's situational.

  • 01.04.2010 3:27 PM PDT

Go BR 3 body shots plus head shot and dead

  • 01.04.2010 5:49 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Posted by: MATCLAN
With regards to the claim of the BR being overpowered:

Surely this is only true when battling against someone with an inferior weapon? In a BR vs BR battle it can't be overpowered as the effectivenes is based on the players' strafing and aiming capabilities.

In short; it's situational.
That's like saying the rocket isn't overpowered because in a rocket vs rocket battle it's based on jumping and where you shoot your rocket. What we're saying is the BR is more powerful than most other weapons and doesn't take much skill.

[Edited on 01.05.2010 4:45 AM PST]

  • 01.05.2010 4:45 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

I am n00b fear my r0cket launcher and energy sw0rd!!!
All n00bs are invited t0 my bubble shield party wensday at 8:00 0n high gr0und bring freinds!!

I think the BR is just fine. If you dont like the BR then use the AR and stop complaining.

  • 01.05.2010 9:41 AM PDT
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I don't know why the AR is still in the game xD. No skill what so ever, just take it out xd, or at least make EVERY game BR starts. If they want an AR, they can pick one up.

  • 01.07.2010 11:38 AM PDT

the battle rifle is my favorite just because of its three round burst. these are my favorite and least favorite things about the BR
1. doesn't work well in the whole fire and aproach than melee thing.
2. scope doesn't zoom that much (thats more than what the AR can say)
now my favorites
1. blows the covi carbine out of the water
2. best rifle for head shots not counting snipes of course
3. some people say it has a low rate of fire i agree. HOWEVER you dont need a high rate of fire when you have a powerful accurate gun.

  • 01.08.2010 9:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: panhead1080
the battle rifle is my favorite just because of its three round burst. these are my favorite and least favorite things about the BR
1. doesn't work well in the whole fire and aproach than melee thing.
2. scope doesn't zoom that much (thats more than what the AR can say)
now my favorites
3. blows the covi carbine out of the water
4. best rifle for head shots not counting snipes of course
5. some people say it has a low rate of fire i agree. HOWEVER you dont need a high rate of fire when you have a powerful accurate gun.

Because 1. takes skill, 2. matters, 3. youre completely wrong

  • 01.08.2010 3:10 PM PDT

I like everything the way it is, only a little bit to much auto aim what makes noobs sometimes to lucky.

I think the weapons are balanced becuase from very close the BR is sometimes hard to use, where the AR will stand in.
If you use those weapons in perfect harmony then 99% you have a very nice game.

Anyway, to be a good player
You need every round:

Your skill ( How use the map, aim, weapons and think before your enemy, be unpredictable)
Your dosis of luck that game, sometimes a game is just very hard to play, you cannot get in the game.

  • 01.09.2010 3:03 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

Killing time, killng people

the reason i prefer the ar is that it is more specialised.
i prefer it when guns exel at a certain range but hav problems at other ranges.

examples

the ar- decent mag size and fire rate, decent damage.
the downside is that it does not have a very high range.

the sniper. high damage, insane range. low clip size, ineffective at close range.

shotgun- high damage, medium clip size, fairly accurate. slow reload speed, very low range.

splaser- insane damage, insane range, very accurate. takes time to fire, very low ammo.

needler- good range, very powerful overcombine, fast reload. innefective at long as shots can be dodged, ineffective at lose range as needles cannot track.

brute shot- fairly high damage, can flip vehicles, enables shot jumping. slow bullets, low clip size.

spiker- high mag size, dual weildable. slow bullets mediocre damage.

smg- high mag, fast shooting, dual wieldable. low range low damage, drifts upwards

mauler- high damage, dual wieldable. low mag size, low range

plasma pistol- overcharge, stuns vehicles, dual wieldable. low health damage, hard to fire rapidly.

plasma rifle- high charge, high fire rate, high shield damage, dual wieldable. low health damage, fast overheat.

magnum- medium clip, medium fire rate, headshot weapon.
very low power compared to other weapons.

beam rifle- high damage, high range, lack of reloading.
low fire rate due to insane heat buildup, low ammo count.

carbine- good range, good fire rate, medium reload speed.
medioctre damage, occasionally a shot will land nowhere near where it is supposed to.

missile pod- high damage, lock on to vehicles. ineffective against infantry.

mg turret. high damage, high ammo.
slows, innacurate, spin-up delay.

hammer- high damage aoe damage.
low range

sword- high damage, lunge.
low range.


these are the weapons that i have seen in MM other than the BR.

as you can see, they all have advantages and disadvantages.

now i shall analyse the br in the sam way.

BR-scoped, medium damage, large clip, accurate, 4 shot capability, effective at all ranges.

none.

can you see that it has no real disadvantags in this system. this means that it can beat any weapon. that is precisely what i hate about it. it can be used in any situation and causes people to rush towards it rather than other weapons. ii would prefer a system where every un had a disadvantage.

there is no real counterpart to it so it is invariably used in any situation rather than a gun specialised fo that situation.

owing to this effectiveness, it has spawned a culture of overly serious, BR crazy "pros" who forget that games are for fun and accuse people who are not a 50 or use any gun other than the Br for being "N00B5 AnD sh0uld n0t play hal0"

[Edited on 01.09.2010 12:04 PM PST]

  • 01.09.2010 12:01 PM PDT

They are all decent guns that just about anyone can pick and utilize effectively, however, the BR55 is my favorite because it has a scope and I prefer ranged combat to CQB.

  • 01.09.2010 6:44 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

yep

  • 01.09.2010 8:20 PM PDT

Dan91Bauer has been rambling a lot about the M6D (Halo 1 Pistol) having little to no spread, well I just did a quick test of shooting a wall slowly and comparing the size of the hitzone to the field of view width (which is 70 degrees, why does everyone including me claim it's 90 degrees?!) and the result is... 0.7 to 0.9 degrees.

That's twice the spread of the third bullet of the BR55HB SR!!!

  • 01.09.2010 8:34 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

Posted by: Infernalstorm97
the reason i prefer the ar is that it is more specialised.
i prefer it when guns exel at a certain range but hav problems at other ranges.

examples

the ar- decent mag size and fire rate, decent damage.
the downside is that it does not have a very high range.

the sniper. high damage, insane range. low clip size, ineffective at close range.

shotgun- high damage, medium clip size, fairly accurate. slow reload speed, very low range.

splaser- insane damage, insane range, very accurate. takes time to fire, very low ammo.

needler- good range, very powerful overcombine, fast reload. innefective at long as shots can be dodged, ineffective at lose range as needles cannot track.

brute shot- fairly high damage, can flip vehicles, enables shot jumping. slow bullets, low clip size.

spiker- high mag size, dual weildable. slow bullets mediocre damage.

smg- high mag, fast shooting, dual wieldable. low range low damage, drifts upwards

mauler- high damage, dual wieldable. low mag size, low range

plasma pistol- overcharge, stuns vehicles, dual wieldable. low health damage, hard to fire rapidly.

plasma rifle- high charge, high fire rate, high shield damage, dual wieldable. low health damage, fast overheat.

magnum- medium clip, medium fire rate, headshot weapon.
very low power compared to other weapons.

beam rifle- high damage, high range, lack of reloading.
low fire rate due to insane heat buildup, low ammo count.

carbine- good range, good fire rate, medium reload speed.
medioctre damage, occasionally a shot will land nowhere near where it is supposed to.

missile pod- high damage, lock on to vehicles. ineffective against infantry.

mg turret. high damage, high ammo.
slows, innacurate, spin-up delay.

hammer- high damage aoe damage.
low range

sword- high damage, lunge.
low range.


these are the weapons that i have seen in MM other than the BR.

as you can see, they all have advantages and disadvantages.

now i shall analyse the br in the sam way.

BR-scoped, medium damage, large clip, accurate, 4 shot capability, effective at all ranges.

none.

can you see that it has no real disadvantags in this system. this means that it can beat any weapon. that is precisely what i hate about it. it can be used in any situation and causes people to rush towards it rather than other weapons. ii would prefer a system where every un had a disadvantage.

there is no real counterpart to it so it is invariably used in any situation rather than a gun specialised fo that situation.

owing to this effectiveness, it has spawned a culture of overly serious, BR crazy "pros" who forget that games are for fun and accuse people who are not a 50 or use any gun other than the Br for being "N00B5 AnD sh0uld n0t play hal0"



thats exactly what makes the br overpowered. its a power weapon with basic weapon spawns. it removes any skill that comes from handling situations and from counter attacking. atleast the other weapons have a balance.

and because of this, i have never played a halo game the way it was designed to be played. (with a veriety of weapons.)

all i ever see is BR BR BR! its demoralizing, i miss the warthog barreling over people while rockets chase them, and SMGs firing consistently, while a banshe zooms past. i miss plasma weapons. i miss personality.

  • 01.09.2010 8:49 PM PDT

My name is Tyler, and I am a Bungie fan. I started with Halo: Combat Evolved, and eventually bought it for the computer. Then came Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST (Not the best AT ALL in my opinion, sorry Bungie.) And finally, my favorite, Halo Reach. You have to love the customization!

My thoughts: The BR is good at medium ranges, while the AR is good at close ranges. Like, Barrel-of-the-gun-is-down-their-throat ranges. If you aim for the head with the BR, you have a pretty good chance at killing them.

  • 01.10.2010 12:57 AM PDT

BR = LAG

  • 01.10.2010 7:23 AM PDT

ya know it really depends on the situation. ARs dominate the close range,while the BRs will really screw you up if you switch to AR a second too soon. So you really can't say which is better.

  • 01.10.2010 9:38 PM PDT
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How about getting rid of the cheap, overpowered noob weapon known as the AR?
Or making a BR/AR playlist

  • 01.10.2010 11:38 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Posted by: Infernalstorm97

BR-scoped, medium damage, large clip, accurate, 4 shot capability, effective at all ranges.

none.


False
This is what a lot of people don't realize. The Battle Rifle is FAIL at close range. Where as the assault rifle isn't. So when some guy with a BR thinks he's MLG and tries to use the battle rifle at close range, he gets pwned by the AR, and screams that the AR user was a noob and doesn't know how to play halo.


But why? You were so close! You were right about everything else!! Why this!?

[Edited on 01.11.2010 4:52 AM PST]

  • 01.11.2010 4:49 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

And so, Achronos lifted the banhammer high above his head, exclaming "You shall not sully these forums again!" And with one, deft blow, he brought the banhammer down upon the offender, and slew him.

Bah, what's the point? You're only goingt to troll, flame or E-raip me.

I love the BR. Half of my kills are with it. I don't see anything wrong with it.

  • 01.11.2010 6:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: panhead1080
the battle rifle is my favorite just because of its three round burst. these are my favorite and least favorite things about the BR
1. doesn't work well in the whole fire and aproach than melee thing.
2. scope doesn't zoom that much (thats more than what the AR can say)
now my favorites
3. blows the covi carbine out of the water
4. best rifle for head shots not counting snipes of course
5. some people say it has a low rate of fire i agree. HOWEVER you dont need a high rate of fire when you have a powerful accurate gun.

Because 1. takes skill, 2. matters, 3. youre completely wrong

well opinions are opinions.

  • 01.11.2010 6:06 PM PDT

The next person to assume I am talking about ranked, do us all a favor and look at what I play!

People here are forgetting that there's another kickass gun that can own both of them: the spiker.

  • 01.11.2010 7:50 PM PDT
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  • 01.11.2010 9:33 PM PDT