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  • 02.19.2010 5:17 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

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Yeah, the BR is legit the way it is.

  • 02.19.2010 7:47 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

I like everything the way it is. The BR is a strong mid range weapon and the geometry on it seems to be ok from my experience. the AR is ok too because people who ust it are easy mid/long range kills

  • 02.19.2010 9:33 PM PDT
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i love the br for h3 but h2's was way better

  • 02.19.2010 10:55 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

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Posted by: xImNotProx
Posted by: drummer1875
the way that i see it, if you are complaining about the BR, you aren't good enough be using it. Don't complain. the AR was brought back to rival it. suck it up.

Nope, I personally don't like it because it took the purpose away from any other weapon.
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  • 02.19.2010 11:30 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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the way that i see it, if you are complaining about the BR, you aren't good enough be using it. Don't complain. the AR was brought back to rival it. suck it up.

Nope, I personally don't like it because it took the purpose away from any other weapon.
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Let's take a look at the theoretical triangle of Halo: guns, melee, and grenades. The guns are supposed to be the main weapon, capable of performing a variety of function, but not each gun can do everything. The melee is devastatingly powerful, but only at extremely close range, and it's not high adaptable. The grenades are somewhat adaptable. They do a lot of damage, but come in limited numbers and come in many varieties to serve different purposes.

Now let's take a look at the real triangle of Halo: BR, melee, and grenades. There are a lot of guns, but the gameplay and maps require a longer reach than most guns can afford, making the BR automatically dominant due to its commonality and the maps. The grenades are still the same, but they can be dodged and the BR is easier to use. The melee is still the same, but the BR is able to kill before it can be used.

Bottom line: BR unbalances Halo.

[Edited on 02.20.2010 12:02 PM PST]

  • 02.20.2010 12:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: mortabunt

Let's take a look at the theoretical triangle of Halo: guns, melee, and grenades. The guns are supposed to be the main weapon, capable of performing a variety of function, but not each gun can do everything. The melee is devastatingly powerful, but only at extremely close range, and it's not high adaptable. The grenades are somewhat adaptable. They do a lot of damage, but come in limited numbers and come in many varieties to serve different purposes.

Now let's take a look at the real triangle of Halo: BR, melee, and grenades. There are a lot of guns, but the gameplay and maps require a longer reach than most guns can afford, making the BR automatically dominant due to its commonality and the maps. The grenades are still the same, but they can be dodged and the BR is easier to use. The melee is still the same, but the BR is able to kill before it can be used.

Bottom line: BR unbalances Halo.
What this guy said.

[Edited on 02.20.2010 12:08 PM PST]

  • 02.20.2010 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: mortabunt

Let's take a look at the theoretical triangle of Halo: guns, melee, and grenades. The guns are supposed to be the main weapon, capable of performing a variety of function, but not each gun can do everything. The melee is devastatingly powerful, but only at extremely close range, and it's not high adaptable. The grenades are somewhat adaptable. They do a lot of damage, but come in limited numbers and come in many varieties to serve different purposes.

Now let's take a look at the real triangle of Halo: BR, melee, and grenades. There are a lot of guns, but the gameplay and maps require a longer reach than most guns can afford, making the BR automatically dominant due to its commonality and the maps. The grenades are still the same, but they can be dodged and the BR is easier to use. The melee is still the same, but the BR is able to kill before it can be used.

Bottom line: BR unbalances Halo.
What this guy said.

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  • 02.20.2010 12:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: mortabunt

Let's take a look at the theoretical triangle of Halo: guns, melee, and grenades. The guns are supposed to be the main weapon, capable of performing a variety of function, but not each gun can do everything. The melee is devastatingly powerful, but only at extremely close range, and it's not high adaptable. The grenades are somewhat adaptable. They do a lot of damage, but come in limited numbers and come in many varieties to serve different purposes.

Now let's take a look at the real triangle of Halo: BR, melee, and grenades. There are a lot of guns, but the gameplay and maps require a longer reach than most guns can afford, making the BR automatically dominant due to its commonality and the maps. The grenades are still the same, but they can be dodged and the BR is easier to use. The melee is still the same, but the BR is able to kill before it can be used.

Bottom line: BR unbalances Halo.
What this guy said.

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  • 02.20.2010 5:15 PM PDT

True the br does have an advantage over the rest of the triangle but as you said "guns are supposed to be the main weapon" can you seriously contradict that?
The BR doesnt truly unbalance halo, I personally use it alot in combination with both melee and grenades, all it does in those cases are finish them off or soften them up. Is this truly unbalancing the triangle or simply using more than 1 attack type at a time?

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  • 02.21.2010 11:29 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

Exactly. I think that the BR was my best friend during the campaign because of the noob combo (Plasma Pistol+BR) took down brutes fast and scored me 1,500 points from one kill.

  • 02.22.2010 5:34 AM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

I'd rather not use a shotgun unless everyone else has one....Power weps is not cool.

  • 02.22.2010 5:36 AM PDT

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I... can't believe this argument is going on still.

...But hah.

Here:

AR is better than the BR because it dominates close range. Caught off guard, BR is fried before it can do anything.

BR is better than the AR because it dominates midrange. Caught off guard, AR is fried before it can do anything.

All the other weapons are tools designed for single purposes, just like these two lovely creations. AR and BR are implements of destruction. What they do is destroy things. To that end they are effective. People use the BR often and become proficient with it because of BR starts, like MLG, SWAT and the like. They then begin to believe it is the only true weapon because, okay, in MLG and SWAT, it IS the only weapon.

AR users are affronted because, due to the lack of people using the weapon as often except in Team Slayer games where they absolutely have to, it is an unappreciated weapon. When they voice their concern, they are quickly silenced by the flood of BR users.

NEITHER ONE IS RIGHT.

THE AR AND THE BR ARE USEFUL FOR THEIR OWN ESTABLISHED MEDIUMS OF CLOSE RANGE OR MID RANGE SUPREMACY. THE BR IS MORE POPULAR BECAUSE THERE ARE WHOLE GAMETYPES DEVOTED TO IT.

That's it. That's all. Game over. Neither one is more powerful than the other in the hands of a player skilled in both. Most people only ever try to become skilled in one, so they end up thinking the other is inferior.

Since I predict this post will go up in smoke from concerted flame efforts, I will be abandoning this thread to the two factions I have just managed to stand in front of and paint a target on my head for.

*flees*

  • 02.22.2010 8:04 AM PDT

How to use a AR... Hold down the right trigger and "hope" you hit something because you have no idea where your shots are really going(besides at close range >.>)

How to use a BR... "Aim" your shots by pointing the crosshairs at the head or upper half of the body and shooting 4 shots and they are dead. (works at close range AND long range)

Conclusion
- The BR is unquestionably better than the AR for that the AR has no range what so ever and a monkey can hold down a trigger...
-The BR takes skill and you have to aim perfectly and hit them with a 4 shot and if you master it you will dominate the game.

Shut up AR noobs... BR>AR hands down. this thread should be closed

  • 02.22.2010 11:56 AM PDT

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I... can't believe this argument is going on still.

...But hah.

Here:

AR is better than the BR because it dominates close range. Caught off guard, BR is fried before it can do anything.

BR is better than the AR because it dominates midrange. Caught off guard, AR is fried before it can do anything.

All the other weapons are tools designed for single purposes, just like these two lovely creations. AR and BR are implements of destruction. What they do is destroy things. To that end they are effective. People use the BR often and become proficient with it because of BR starts, like MLG, SWAT and the like. They then begin to believe it is the only true weapon because, okay, in MLG and SWAT, it IS the only weapon.

AR users are affronted because, due to the lack of people using the weapon as often except in Team Slayer games where they absolutely have to, it is an unappreciated weapon. When they voice their concern, they are quickly silenced by the flood of BR users.

NEITHER ONE IS RIGHT.

THE AR AND THE BR ARE USEFUL FOR THEIR OWN ESTABLISHED MEDIUMS OF CLOSE RANGE OR MID RANGE SUPREMACY. THE BR IS MORE POPULAR BECAUSE THERE ARE WHOLE GAMETYPES DEVOTED TO IT.

That's it. That's all. Game over. Neither one is more powerful than the other in the hands of a player skilled in both. Most people only ever try to become skilled in one, so they end up thinking the other is inferior.

Since I predict this post will go up in smoke from concerted flame efforts, I will be abandoning this thread to the two factions I have just managed to stand in front of and paint a target on my head for.

*flees*


You are absolutely right, every weapon has it's respective range and functions. The BR can be beaten by the AR and vice versa , so just stop acting like idiots and end this -blam!- arguing over "The best weapon" there is no best weapon deal with it. /thread

[Edited on 02.22.2010 12:25 PM PST]

  • 02.22.2010 12:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Darathem
I... can't believe this argument is going on still.

...But hah.

Here:

AR is better than the BR because it dominates close range. Caught off guard, BR is fried before it can do anything.

BR is better than the AR because it dominates midrange. Caught off guard, AR is fried before it can do anything.

All the other weapons are tools designed for single purposes, just like these two lovely creations. AR and BR are implements of destruction. What they do is destroy things. To that end they are effective. People use the BR often and become proficient with it because of BR starts, like MLG, SWAT and the like. They then begin to believe it is the only true weapon because, okay, in MLG and SWAT, it IS the only weapon.

AR users are affronted because, due to the lack of people using the weapon as often except in Team Slayer games where they absolutely have to, it is an unappreciated weapon. When they voice their concern, they are quickly silenced by the flood of BR users.

NEITHER ONE IS RIGHT.

THE AR AND THE BR ARE USEFUL FOR THEIR OWN ESTABLISHED MEDIUMS OF CLOSE RANGE OR MID RANGE SUPREMACY. THE BR IS MORE POPULAR BECAUSE THERE ARE WHOLE GAMETYPES DEVOTED TO IT.

That's it. That's all. Game over. Neither one is more powerful than the other in the hands of a player skilled in both. Most people only ever try to become skilled in one, so they end up thinking the other is inferior.

Since I predict this post will go up in smoke from concerted flame efforts, I will be abandoning this thread to the two factions I have just managed to stand in front of and paint a target on my head for.

*flees*


You are absolutely right, every weapon has it's respective range and functions. The BR can be beaten by the AR and vice versa , so just stop acting like idiots and end this -blam!- arguing over "The best weapon" there is no best weapon deal with it. /thread
You're both 99% correct. The only wrong part is the arguing should keep going, it's fun!

  • 02.22.2010 2:17 PM PDT

I've seen my family fade away, You've taken my whole life left me nothing to say. Sitting in silence with heaven above me i prayed every night by their graves. I search for closure i feel it no longer i can't turn my face away. I stand before you Ive seen what I've had to but now i leave your sight to avenge my family, I've taken my whole life there's nothing left to say.

Posted by: Godzsin9996
How to use a AR... Hold down the right trigger and "hope" you hit something because you have no idea where your shots are really going(besides at close range >.>)

How to use a BR... "Aim" your shots by pointing the crosshairs at the head or upper half of the body and shooting 4 shots and they are dead. (works at close range AND long range)

Conclusion
- The BR is unquestionably better than the AR for that the AR has no range what so ever and a monkey can hold down a trigger...
-The BR takes skill and you have to aim perfectly and hit them with a 4 shot and if you master it you will dominate the game.

Shut up AR noobs... BR>AR hands down. this thread should be closed
So its so much harder to pull the trigger more times? What about the people that pulse fire the ar like your supposed to?

  • 02.22.2010 5:54 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR Thread

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AH but that's where your wrong it can easily be argued the other way. Though i respect the BR and i DO know how to use it, I think that it is NOT the fix all weapon, and the fact that it has been used in place of the Assault Rifle bugs me.

-1. The fact that the BR only fires exclusively in 3 round bursts is annoying (why can't you change it single shot or full auto functions?)

2-The simple fact is that the BR is overused in online multiplayer, it is NOT the weapon well suited to all forms of combat. (close quarters especially)i would prefer an SMG or AR to a BR in close quarters 95 out of a hundred times (and believe me, the people who make the mistake of using it up close end up filled with bullets...)

3.It doesn't really take large amounts of skill to use a BR - it fires dead accurately in a 3 round burst....so yeah...ALL you have to do is shoot some guy in the face a few times and their dead, no skill involved. Many times in Matchmaking the BR is used to pick off an unsuspecting player, or already engaged player which could be described as cowardly, nooby, or just plain annoying.

4.-in small maps (which almost 80% of Halo 3's maps are in fact Close quarters maps) The BR allows players to kill anyone within their sight lines, often within seconds of a match starting... SPAWN KILLING!!

5. In team games if two or more people with battle rifles are attacking you, there is no way you can kill them which is very unfair. For instance in a 2 on one situation where your opponents are using BRS and know how to use them there is no way you can kill them....

6.The BR should NOT be commonplace in small maps such as Guardian, Blackout, Assembly, or Heretic, as it allows for players to simply spawn camp, which is very frustrating.

7. The BR is a joy to use in campaign and in large maps, but i do believe it is overrated and is hardly the weapon of skill...You want a skill weapon? try a Magnum...I love "out BRing" people with my pitiful little M6G magnum..Now that takes skill. As it is a slow firing, single shot, has a relatively small clip capacity, and can be difficult to aim (no scopes lol...)

I prefer the AR even though it has been downgraded from Halo CE, (smaller magazine, ammo capacity, reduced fire rate, and reduced accuracy because.

1. It almost ALWAYS win close to medium range battles even against BRS...It can be fired very accurately when fired in bursts, and can open up to full auto at closer ranges.

2. The fire and beat down combo is a joy to use and works very well.

3. The assault rifle looks awesome and is a classic.

4.It is very powerful against armor and exposed flesh.

5.I can more or less fire it in single, bursts or full auto.

6. It is a fairer more balanced weapon for closer range maps.

7. When multi-teamed by people with assault rifles you are not ALWAYS doomed to die.

8.Arguably the Assault rifle is much more of a skill weapon because: it can be argued as weaker, less accurate, less range, has been toned down to be fit as a starter weapon, reduced clip size, no special site or scope. If one can use this basic weapon and outperform "higer tech" weapons one could say that it requires far more skill.

  • 02.22.2010 6:47 PM PDT
Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread

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Thankyou shadow, your actually someone who sees the light and actually makes some sense. The BR is in fact cheap and pathetically easy to use. I am skilled in almost every weapon, and after playing for so long i realized i hated the BR as it is overused in mathcmaking and can be very annoying. I find it hilarious when i overpower people with "noobier" weapons, such as SMGs, ARS, Magnums. Seriously you want to prove you have skill? try using a magnum, or try picking someone off with an SMG. I've done it, and to use a weapon which is severely limited in range and abilities to be truely "skilled"

  • 02.22.2010 6:51 PM PDT
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yeah patrick's right, the magnum definitely takes way more skill than a battle rifle, and you can use the ar in many situations where it would take skill too. The only problem is retards who don't realize this take have their br out 24/7 and when they get owned by the AR they fail to understand why and scream "OMG UR A N00B CUZ YOU DUN UZE BR!!"

[Edited on 02.23.2010 4:51 AM PST]

  • 02.23.2010 4:49 AM PDT
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the br is great i wish they didnt have the ar in halo 3 when i go into matchmaking and get a good kill streak going a random nube will come up with a ar when im red bared its pretty anoying

  • 02.23.2010 6:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: zellwager696
the br is great i wish they didnt have the ar in halo 3 when i go into matchmaking and get a good kill streak going a random nube will come up with a ar when im red bared its pretty anoying
would you rather be shot across the map from a br when you're red bared? (assuming when you say red bared you mean your shields are out)

[Edited on 02.23.2010 7:11 AM PST]

  • 02.23.2010 7:11 AM PDT

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  • 02.23.2010 5:22 PM PDT