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Subject: The Only BR/AR Thread
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sorry i posted one... i just joined not long ago and havent been on forums much, so i posted one, sorry

  • 02.23.2010 6:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Husky0wner127
Posted by: deadly tooth313
sorry i posted one... i just joined not long ago and havent been on forums much, so i posted one, sorry
I don't believe any of this has a point.

  • 02.23.2010 6:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Husky0wner127
Posted by: deadly tooth313
sorry i posted one... i just joined not long ago and havent been on forums much, so i posted one, sorry
I don't believe any of this has a point.
Look who's on bungie. Yeah, my sister and dad are playing NHL 09 while I wait to play my sister (we're both dominating my dad).

  • 02.23.2010 6:41 PM PDT

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I think that the BR is fun and all, but it takes a lot of the variety away from the game. I hardly use any other weapons because it is so much easier to get kills with a BR. And I hate the non-BR starts now because trying to fight off a BR user with anything else is like trying to blow up a tank with a sausage. It ain't gonna happen (most of the time, anyway).

And I seriously don't get the people who complain about the AR. My complaint is that it is underpowered. It is pretty much a useless weapon, especially if you spawn with a BR. If you don't it's just a weapon to have something to fight with until you get to a BR.

Anyone who dies from an assault rifle when using a BR deserves that death. Because if you died in that encounter, it's either because you weren't paying attention, you made a big mistake, or you just suck.

There's also a huge difference in the ability to kill someone with these two weapons. The BR, hitting with every shot and ending with a headshot, means you can get a maximum of 3 kills before reloading. If you're any good, you should get 2, and if you're not, you better get 1 or quit playing FPS games. With the AR, you have a maximum of 2 kills with one mag. That's if every bullet hits, which they certainly don't. That means it will take 2/3, 3/4, or a whole mag just to kill one person. You get one kill and then reload, one and reload. No escaping it unless you're really lucky (or use grenades, but in that case you can use the BR in the same way to increase your kills... hell you could get 12 kills on one mag if you had enough grenades lying around).

And just to let you know, the AR spread actually exceeds the aimer circle. Just find a place where you can see your shots hitting (forerunner metal walls usually work, like on guardian, or at least should work) and you'll see the little bright spots hit outside of that circle. Do it then watch it on theater to compare the spread of bullet holes on a wall between the BR and the AR. BR is the only gun that will hit anything with any real amount of damage.

I feel that replacing the BR with the DMR is going to turn Halo Reach into the best FPS ever made. Doing what they do with the AR should help, too.

  • 02.23.2010 7:07 PM PDT
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BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!

  • 02.23.2010 8:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.

  • 02.23.2010 9:18 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.
fmmmm

  • 02.24.2010 7:00 AM PDT

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Battlefield 3 sucks.

i like the AR's design in reach... but the br looks kinda weird..

  • 02.24.2010 10:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: Husky0wner127
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.
fmmmm
Fmmmmm?

  • 02.24.2010 12:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.

True variety is the spice of life but we arent arguing over spice, we are arguing that the AR requires less skill for the most part (if you can out gun a good BR from a decent distance awesome) and that the BR is by far a better all around weapon.
We arent saying that if you use another weapon that you are a noob, look at my kills alot of them are from a Sniper (it used to be more than my BR in ranked matches until I started playing SWAT).
We are arguing that it is a better all-around weapon and is usually the choice for most types combat rather than an AR. I cant really argue that its the best weapon in the game (I will with the sniper though) but I can say that it is one of the most common.
But, in all honesty I personally beleive the AR to be skill-less kills for the MAJORITY of people that use it.

(--NEWS FLASH--)

A monkey can hold down the right trigger until something dies!


[Edited on 02.24.2010 1:29 PM PST]

  • 02.24.2010 1:27 PM PDT

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Really I don't even play the game too much and I can tell that the battle rifle takes more skill than the assault rifle...I mean it really just seems like common sense to me...

  • 02.24.2010 2:03 PM PDT

they should have a option for br like single or triple shot but i dont give just dont take it away

  • 02.24.2010 3:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.

True variety is the spice of life but we arent arguing over spice, we are arguing that the AR requires less skill for the most part (if you can out gun a good BR from a decent distance awesome) and that the BR is by far a better all around weapon.
We arent saying that if you use another weapon that you are a noob, look at my kills alot of them are from a Sniper (it used to be more than my BR in ranked matches until I started playing SWAT).
We are arguing that it is a better all-around weapon and is usually the choice for most types combat rather than an AR. I cant really argue that its the best weapon in the game (I will with the sniper though) but I can say that it is one of the most common.
But, in all honesty I personally beleive the AR to be skill-less kills for the MAJORITY of people that use it.

(--NEWS FLASH--)

A monkey can hold down the right trigger until something dies!
A monkey can also tap a trigger.

  • 02.24.2010 5:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.

True variety is the spice of life but we arent arguing over spice, we are arguing that the AR requires less skill for the most part (if you can out gun a good BR from a decent distance awesome) and that the BR is by far a better all around weapon.
We arent saying that if you use another weapon that you are a noob, look at my kills alot of them are from a Sniper (it used to be more than my BR in ranked matches until I started playing SWAT).
We are arguing that it is a better all-around weapon and is usually the choice for most types combat rather than an AR. I cant really argue that its the best weapon in the game (I will with the sniper though) but I can say that it is one of the most common.
But, in all honesty I personally beleive the AR to be skill-less kills for the MAJORITY of people that use it.

(--NEWS FLASH--)

A monkey can hold down the right trigger until something dies!
A monkey can also tap a trigger.


Agreed. As I said before, if you get killed by an AR while using a BR you really either A. They got the jump on you B. They were extremely close range and meleed you C. You suck D. You really suck.

If someone seriously ARed you from a good distance while you had a BR in your hands, they must've been shooting you in the ass while you were taking a break and eating pizza with both hands, or you have such little skill that you can't simply 4-5 shot him in the dome before his pitiful AR can kill you.

I'm not kidding. If you find this happening to you often, you suck something awful.

  • 02.24.2010 8:53 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.

True variety is the spice of life but we arent arguing over spice, we are arguing that the AR requires less skill for the most part (if you can out gun a good BR from a decent distance awesome) and that the BR is by far a better all around weapon.
We arent saying that if you use another weapon that you are a noob, look at my kills alot of them are from a Sniper (it used to be more than my BR in ranked matches until I started playing SWAT).
We are arguing that it is a better all-around weapon and is usually the choice for most types combat rather than an AR. I cant really argue that its the best weapon in the game (I will with the sniper though) but I can say that it is one of the most common.
But, in all honesty I personally beleive the AR to be skill-less kills for the MAJORITY of people that use it.

(--NEWS FLASH--)

A monkey can hold down the right trigger until something dies!
A monkey can also tap a trigger.


Agreed. As I said before, if you get killed by an AR while using a BR you really either A. They got the jump on you B. They were extremely close range and meleed you C. You suck D. You really suck.

If someone seriously ARed you from a good distance while you had a BR in your hands, they must've been shooting you in the ass while you were taking a break and eating pizza with both hands, or you have such little skill that you can't simply 4-5 shot him in the dome before his pitiful AR can kill you.

I'm not kidding. If you find this happening to you often, you suck something awful.
Wait, if you suck if you get killed by the AR at considerable range, then doesn't that mean the AR is hard to use? Therefore it takes skill?

  • 02.25.2010 4:48 AM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347l
Posted by: Taste My Nads
BRS are the name of the game ARS=NOOBS!
Its like this voice..... The annoying little voice of kids that learnt one thing and can only do that thing. Variety is the spice of life.
fmmmm
Fmmmmm?
Yes, Fmmmmm.

  • 02.25.2010 4:48 AM PDT
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Well as for those people who want the BR fixed. Let me begin by saying, ever heard the expression "Don't blame the tool, blame the tools men." If not then I highly suggest following the simple step of not using the BR or learn to use it, instead of wasting valuable time complaining over it.

  • 02.25.2010 3:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jaeryd
Agreed. As I said before, if you get killed by an AR while using a BR you really either A. They got the jump on you B. They were extremely close range and meleed you C. You suck D. You really suck.

If someone seriously ARed you from a good distance while you had a BR in your hands, they must've been shooting you in the ass while you were taking a break and eating pizza with both hands, or you have such little skill that you can't simply 4-5 shot him in the dome before his pitiful AR can kill you.

I'm not kidding. If you find this happening to you often, you suck something awful.

Posted By: Husky0wner127
Wait, if you suck if you get killed by the AR at considerable range, then doesn't that mean the AR is hard to use? Therefore it takes skill?


No, no. You're missing my point. I'm saying that the AR sucks. I'm not saying you need skill to use it. I'm just saying that just because someone can kill you with it doesn't mean that it takes no skill. It takes some amount of skill, but mostly it's not about that.

I'm saying, you should be able to easily kill an AR wielder with a BR, especially at longer ranges (since the AR spread is crappy even if you pulse it, and has no headshot capability). If you can't kill someone with an AR, if you really get killed by them in a 1v1 fight, then it's either A. not your fault because it came out of nowhere, B. you suck because you should've seen it coming but didn't react in time, C. you really suck because you can't aim for the head/chest while they're charging at you using a -blam!- weapon (at longer ranges they shouldn't even be able to kill you. If you stand around long enough for them to kill you, you deserved it).

Sometimes I hate not being able to type in coherent sentences...

[Edited on 02.25.2010 6:20 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2010 6:16 PM PDT
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I'm out of chips.

Well my point is that you don't suck if you get killed by the AR, you're stupid for keeping your BR out at close range.

  • 02.25.2010 7:03 PM PDT

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why r u people complaining about the br u just need to know how to use it at long range lead a little bit and shoot at the body instead of the head and you will b fine. if ur a good br shooter and u hit ur rt fast enough u usually dont need a beat down so why r u gusy whineing

  • 02.26.2010 8:49 AM PDT

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why r u people complaining about the br u just need to know how to use it at long range lead a little bit and shoot at the body instead of the head and you will b fine. if ur a good br shooter and u hit ur rt fast enough u usually dont need a beat down so why r u gusy whineing
Certain people dislike the BR because of the massive amount of people that spam it online in every game-type nearly. And when there's a guy at close range with a shottie and a BR and when your charging at him and when your 6 feet away he switches to the BR, Scenarios like that are just embarrassing for the guy that had the shotgun.

  • 02.26.2010 1:33 PM PDT

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I go BR all the way its totally fine.

  • 02.26.2010 2:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iconic
I go BR all the way its totally fine.
What'd I say? These people are annoying and then complain when killed in cqb, the majority of them at least. Ar= close range Br= mid range Long range= sniper/laser or shoot pointlessly with your br looking like an idiot. (long range meaning across standoff and distances as such)

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Complaining about the BR is one of the most ass backwards thing you could do. I mean even so, I don't think after about 3 years they would change the physics of a weapon. Also the BR isn't really what I'd define as a bad weapon, if anything I don't think there is a bad weapon. Just matters on the circumstances given and the timing of events. The BR seems to be the ground base of H3, but its well rounded and good for MID-RANGE.

Most of the people complaining are just mad because some one uses it better then they do or that they just think it should always be a "4-shot" and can't improve their 10-shots (If not worse)

As for those who spam the battle rifle trying to shoot some one from half way across Valhalla... The only thing you've done is really waste useful ammunition.

  • 02.26.2010 9:48 PM PDT

If u ask anyone good they say the br is good the way it is. If you have enough Time to complain about go on YouTube and watch how to become btter with br's

  • 02.26.2010 10:50 PM PDT