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MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK...
Posted by: Langley
--on another note, I think MLG Chewhatever is an idiot.
Posted by: Achronos
There is a reason I am user ID 1 and my account creation date is before this site came online.
Posted by: MadroKurgan
Posted by: BerserkerBarage
I think the word you're looking for is "objective".
objective, subjective... tomato toemato...
i need more caffeine in the morning
Though i do enjoy Halo:CE considerably more then any of the other Halo's, especially the campaign.
I played the shadowrun demo when it first came out... and was not all that impressed with it. But i didn't put that much time into it to really give a solid opinion. Some people swear by it, though.
I knew what you meant, but I wanted to make sure. Honestly, story-wise, I think HCE campaign wins hands down. But at the same time when Bungie was developing HCE they weren't doing it with having sequels in mind. Now, do I really enjoy the fact that I can romp through H3's campaign with 3 other people? Hell yeah. Especially making it as hard/easy as I want through using skulls? Hell yeah. Do I think that H3's campaign was a good story wise compared to HCE? No.
If you like CS, you'll probably like Shadowrun. I'm pretty sure Bungie even did an interview with John Howard and the other FASA guys and they talked about how Shadowrun is really like CS on steroids with magic. Why I never played it after the first month is because I can't use Legacy in Shadowrun. I'm pretty sure they limit you to either Default or Southpaw. While I can play on Default (which is also how I made it through Biosuck), every once and awhile my brain forgets when I get hurried and I'll end up looking at a wall instead of aiming (since strafe is RS for Legacy).
However, to me, it was like they were developing for that niche "CounterStrike" crowd when they made Shadowrun. Now, that's a good starting point if you want to make that type of game. It's just when the game is $60 and has no story-line campaign, and only ships with 9 levels for MP (I dunno if they added more via DLC; I'd be surprised if they did) I don't think it's going to turn out too well. You're probably not going to get any more people than those that like the CS-ish gameplay. And you're especially not going to get many PC players when they can just play CS and probably like it more.
So really my point is that John Howard certainly is not infallible as some would make him seem. He was lead on a successful game (HCE) and on a very unsuccessful game (SR). Saying he's the defacto "God of Design" isn't right from my viewpoint.
While this is all terribly off-topic for this thread. I think this thread has pretty much run it's course. Bungie (IMO) obviously has no intentions of altering the BR in H3. While TehAttack's suggestions are fine and good (although I think adding extra damage to headshots only strengthens 'host-advantage') from my view of it they won't go farther than this thread. So it seems after 50 pages, we've come full circle.
~B.B.