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There's nothing in here saying that the BR won't be changed in AU2!
AU Deuce

Last week I mentioned that there was a second Autoupdate coming to Halo 3 and that I'd talk about it this week.

Mostly invisible to players are a mess of backend changes that continue to pump more information to us about behaviors (naughty and nice), tendencies and general smoothing of issues underneath Halo 3’s hood that we weren’t thrilled with.

Much more visible to the players is some new functionality coming to Halo 3’s Experience system.

As it stands in Halo 3, Experience is collected into a single bucket which then uses your highest skill in a ranked playlist to give you your “Rank.” We’re adding new Playlist Ratings to Halo 3 Matchmaking.

Before I break down how things are changing here’s what is NOT changing:

* We are not resetting your “Skill.” Your Trueskill value will not change.
* We’re not resetting your current EXP. Your total EXP will still be displayed in your Service Record and that Rank will still be displayed in your Service Record.


I see no "We are not changing the BR".
Check for yourself on weekly update 8/01/08

[Edited on 08.14.2008 11:30 AM PDT]

  • 08.14.2008 11:29 AM PDT

You get hurt by my BR55

ive played with johnnyothan...hes pretty good with br so i would listen to what he says...i only out brd him once outa 3 one on ones

  • 08.14.2008 1:19 PM PDT
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Py Master <3 BR
BR give Py Master MVP always

  • 08.14.2008 3:45 PM PDT
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What would perfect it would be semi-auto rounds, so that it felt more like a marksman's rifle and less like an assault rifle. Because the AR fills that slot.

  • 08.14.2008 9:07 PM PDT

Die? You want me to die? I don't need to win, You just need to lose.

Proof that the br is haxed

  • 08.14.2008 10:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: HI CPU24
Proof that the br is haxed

haha, well that picture obviously explains itself.

[Edited on 08.15.2008 7:10 AM PDT]

  • 08.15.2008 7:10 AM PDT
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I don't understand why kids veto Team BR's?

You get 2 guns!

BR for Mid to Long Range
AR for Close Range


WHATS THE PROBLEM?

I really don't understand.

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  • 08.15.2008 9:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Helios 210
I think the BR in Halo 3 is a brilliant weapon, and the adjustments made from Halo 2 - Halo 3 were good, except from one thing. As I was reading through this thread I cam across several quotes saying the BR's short-range lethality had been reduced, logically, how can this be? Since earlier in the thread several people made references and comparisons to real life weapons I will do the same. A point-blank shot with a sniper with decapitate a man, at maximum range it will just penetrate the skull - just. A magnum at point blank will shatter the skull, at maximum range you are lucky if it hits. So why in Halo 3, is the Battle Rifle weaker at short range than it is at medium? I used to think that this was because the game developers were not willing to incorporate complex physics into the projectile motion, however after researching it seems they've incorporated complex maths into the grenade parabola, the brute shot, and even the ranking system, perhaps because of the velocity of bullets they considered external effects negligible? But here I am going off topic, my point is, that a BR should - logically be more powerful at short range, if only because there is a bigger chance that all three bullets will strike their target, but also because the bullets themselves should posses greater momentum. This does not seem to be the case however, since, countless times I have watched people, having attained the drop on their opponent and firing two or three shots into the back of the opponents head being beaten by their opponent turning, literally firing a 1/2 second burst from the AR into their chest, and then beating them down, I believe this is the primary cause of 'whiners' to whine, even if no changes are made to the BR I believe a reduction in the melee power of the AR would be in order to make these close-range encounters fairer.

Let me know what you think.

Helios.


I like the way you think. this was all. very well thought out. but if they did that with the BR they would have to in the name of fairness do the same thing to all weapons. and i love the idea of giving noobs who shoot me in the foot 1 shot capabilities via sniper.

  • 08.15.2008 3:43 PM PDT
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its a game theres no skill involved point and shoot dif guns beter at dif ranges 10 feet br vs ar br wins 5 feet ar wins simple as that

  • 08.15.2008 6:08 PM PDT
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srry but thats all there is 2 the game weapon ranges and grenades

  • 08.15.2008 6:10 PM PDT
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They should either decrease the spread or the bullet travel time to make it more skill based.

  • 08.15.2008 6:16 PM PDT

It's Called Teamwork Hotshy!

Have any of you guys ever lost a bullet? PLEAES check out and support this thread...serious issue...

[Edited on 08.15.2008 7:15 PM PDT]

  • 08.15.2008 7:14 PM PDT

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Ok. I am going to set this STR8.


The Battle Rifle is FINE.

Here is a little list of things people complain about the BR, a list of things people complain about BR Useres, and a list of things that SHOULDNT be complained about.

List 1: BR Complaints:
1.Not accurate
2. Cheap
3. Bullet Packet Loss
4. "No 4shotting an elite"
5. "No 4 shotting a spartan!!!"
6. Etc.

List 2: Complaints about BR Users
1. "You filthy MLG baby! Learn to use AR"
2. "BR users have no skill. BRs suck"
3. Etc. along those lines

List 3: What NOT to complain about BR
1. EVERYTHING. Absolutely nothing is wrong with BR.



Here are my reasons to back that up.
The BR is a complete weapon, Close, Mid, and if you can lead your shots, long range weapon. There is no real reason to whine about any BR flaws. As it is, Bungie is about 500x closer, helpfully and friendleness wise, with the community. No other game can go complain to its creator, and have problems addressed or fixed.

People who complain about BR users, simply are not good with a BR. Bungie puts all weapons in for a reason. They balance maps to the best of their ability, and clearly, BRs are fine, as the pros, although even I say "Who cares about pros" Prefer the BR. It is simple: The BR, when used correctly, can be the best, or vice versa, the worst weapon in the game. It is all with the user.

Finally. DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT BR, OR ANY OTHER WEAPON. Everything Bungie does for us, is extra. They were hired to MAKE HALO. They were not hired, or did not make halo to meet your every need. What they do, is help the community. Much more than any other father company of a game.

Deal With It.. Play Nice, You have No Rights!



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  • 08.15.2008 7:52 PM PDT
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i hope they fix the br so your br online is more like lan play.

  • 08.15.2008 8:30 PM PDT
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i still dont c how u call moving a joystick to point somehwere and clicking a buton faster than someone else is considered skill? explain this 2 me

  • 08.15.2008 9:07 PM PDT
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Halo CE > Halo 3 > Halo 2

Fix the Halo 3 BR spread, plz.

Anything that involves moving around requires a skill. That's why some people are better at Halo than others. The precision in your thumbs is different for each person. People with better precision and control as well as hand eye coordination are better at the game since their skills are stronger. The BR requires more use of those skills since the head is a smaller target and the crossheir is small, thus requiring more precision.

  • 08.15.2008 10:12 PM PDT
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this is bull -blam!-. the H2 Spread+H3 Auto aim= great compromise between bungie and competetive community

  • 08.15.2008 10:34 PM PDT

It's Called Teamwork Hotshy!

Not when you can't 4 shot someone because of packet loss...

And Halo 2 spread? The BR didn't have any spread in Halo 2....

[Edited on 08.16.2008 10:36 AM PDT]

  • 08.16.2008 10:34 AM PDT

HLG Hernandez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

i say that the BR should be able to Zoom farther in... not just a little Zoom... i mean like the sniper first zoom

  • 08.16.2008 6:36 PM PDT
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The Br is my favorite weapon.
Got 53 percent of all my kills with it in Ranked.

  • 08.16.2008 6:43 PM PDT

Watch your back,and fear wat comes.

Br is pretty good when i started my Halo career i hated it and stuck w/ the shotty and AR but in more recent times i'm starting 2 like it more and more don't get me wrong Shotty&AR are still #1 4 me although now the double SMG's are getting me more and more kills slowly w/ the Br so i'm either gonna have a total change i my kill style or this is just a phase of me assimilating w/ some of the longer range weapons,but i think its just a phase cause like 65% or so of all the fighting on Halo happens cloase reange so the Br is probably gonna take over as my flanking and long-range cover weapon while the AR and shotty stay my close-mid range weapons primarily because i only use doublr SMG's when outnumbered or need 2 make kills fast.

  • 08.17.2008 3:33 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

Posted by: Mr Krowly
but i think its just a phase cause like 65% or so of all the fighting on Halo happens cloase reange


You will get good at halo if you force more longe range fights, if you are further away and use an accurate weapon you stand a better chance of staying alive.

This is why all of the higher level players use the BR.

  • 08.17.2008 5:47 AM PDT
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Funny thing I don't hear as many people complain about guns in COD 4, Counter Strike, UT, half life 2, ect.. (note I said as many I didn't say there weren't any) I think there is just a lot more immature people who want to blame why they lose on there weapons in halo 3.. It started as a trend then got bigger. I bet if I passed around the excuse that the reason why I lose too much is because the AR is over powered it would start a trend in time.. wait lol that one is already happened.Many people who are good with the BR think that only a rocket or shotgun should be able to kill them but, since this is a good balanced game for the most part that is not the case.. The AR can and SHOULD be able to kill a BR holding person when they are too close to the AR holder or when in the ARs effective range.

If anything people should be complaining about why a BR can stop a AR at very close range since the AR is for Close-medium while the BR is for medium-semi long range. The over dependence on the BR is annoying to a degree because for most players that I see its the only dame gun they ever use if they can help it. What I like about some other games is that every weapon is used because even though there is a disadvantage to lets say a Bio rifle vs shocklance in UT the Bio rifle can still win if the player is good, and its like that with every weapon in the game.. its like that in COD 4 too, no weapon despite its advantage is too powerful where you cant beat it. Now take halo 3 some one who dose not have a rocket, laser, or sniper or another BR can almost never win vs a BR player of almost any skill unless they really are not trying at all in far and often even medium range. The BR IMO is slightly over powered just as it was in halo 2..

Please don't say I cant use it because I use it very often now a days, and don't say "go play UT then" because I love halo 3 more over all then any other FPS.. but the BR is overused, and over powered if you don't have one your dead and you know it. and don't get me wrong I don't complan much and its not that big of a deal too me, but it dose get a little tiering seeing every one use the same gun all the time with out fail. I would like to see other encounters and and battle situation other then me and what ever I have vs BR.

P.S I like the carbine much better for 2 reasons.. #1 its better then the BR if you know how to use it, and #2 at the same time you can kill a carbine welder easer if your a good player with almost any weapon. carbine VS almost any weapons situations depend entirely on the brain and tactics and skill of they players, while with the BR its I shot you 1st and I have ok aim your dead buddy no matter what you do (common AR compliant ironically but its true).



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  • 08.17.2008 7:47 AM PDT
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I really do miss the old BR =( Like H2, shots register when they actually should, A 4-shot is actually possible BR.

The new, takes 36 shots for one kill, shots never register, A 4-shot is only possible on someone who isn't there,a dn if it's an Elite, GG, have to aim 50bazillion feet in front of someone to have ths hots hit, ETC BR is unliked by me.

  • 08.17.2008 10:51 AM PDT

Watch your back,and fear wat comes.

Posted by: I JUDGE BREAD "You will get good at halo if you force more longe range fights, if you are further away and use an accurate weapon you stand a better chance of staying alive.

This is why all of the higher level players use the BR."

I realize your a high ranking player and i'll respect your exp. but players like me are slowly learning how to maneuver around these obstacles i mean sure its good but only in open env. maps like sandtrap,avalanche and others but most maps players come in close and tear each other appart even higher ranking players but using the Br requires the scope which requires camping and that makes u such a vulnerable target,check my forum titled To Kill a Sniper.

  • 08.17.2008 12:10 PM PDT