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Subject: The Only BR Thread
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The 'Battle Rifle' itself, takes more skill than holding down the RT whilst having an Assualt Rifle equipped.

Hence why I play MLG Playlists.

  • 08.19.2008 8:19 AM PDT

All the people who say there is no problem. Get this. When i play off host in COD4 my bullets kill the enemy when i hit them. In Halo 3 any time you try to kill somebody off host with the BR its a 5-6 shot minimum. The annoying part is that in theater you see all of your bullets connect but no kill. The game wasnt tested properly for XBL inconsistensies which there are many.

  • 08.19.2008 8:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: TehAttak
This video would tend to suggest scoped shots are indeed tighter spread than non-scoped with the BR. Perhaps it's a function of the game considers you half the total distance between you and your target, or it is intentionally less random with scope. I don't know.

On the subject of dropped bullets, the only other game I've seen with major dropped bullet issues (more than 1% of games) is Gears of War. It happens in all games theoretically. It just seems to happen more in Halo Three. Is it packet loss? Perhaps. Is it a function of H3's netcode? Perhaps. Again, there are multiple causes possible to this effect.

On a side note, nice to see you again BB.


I knew someone would mention that video. Actually I was counting on it. People REALLY NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO PEOPLE ON MLG!! That video proves that spread is constant regardless of scope. However that video does prove that auto-aim/bullet magnetization differs depending on scope. This exact thing has been proven by JonnyOThan in several other threads.

I'd imagine that you would have realized that when they say the spread has a set mathematical range that that range cannot change dependent on zooming/scope. However it makes sense that their is a change in bullet magnetization when comparing the BR unscoped versus scoped. Of course no one considers this blatantly obvious answer because there is a video on MLG saying the BR is broken/a mystery/etc. and that MUST be the answer.

Stop listening to MLG. Decide for yourself. The BR is fine. It works fine.

~B.B.

[Edited on 08.19.2008 8:36 AM PDT]

  • 08.19.2008 8:35 AM PDT

I personally don't see the problem. Comparing the BR to an M16 in Call of Duty, or whatever, is stupid, because they are totally different games.

I'm not great with it, I prefer getting close in and using the AR, but if you know how to use it properly, the BR wins you games.

  • 08.19.2008 10:19 AM PDT
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your so called percision is basically only look sensiativety

  • 08.19.2008 11:02 AM PDT
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mlgs are still fed up with the br being changed from halo 2 so stop listening to them they miss there mass murder machine gun

  • 08.19.2008 11:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: TehAttak
This video would tend to suggest scoped shots are indeed tighter spread than non-scoped with the BR. Perhaps it's a function of the game considers you half the total distance between you and your target, or it is intentionally less random with scope. I don't know.

On the subject of dropped bullets, the only other game I've seen with major dropped bullet issues (more than 1% of games) is Gears of War. It happens in all games theoretically. It just seems to happen more in Halo Three. Is it packet loss? Perhaps. Is it a function of H3's netcode? Perhaps. Again, there are multiple causes possible to this effect.

On a side note, nice to see you again BB.


I knew someone would mention that video. Actually I was counting on it. People REALLY NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO PEOPLE ON MLG!! That video proves that spread is constant regardless of scope. However that video does prove that auto-aim/bullet magnetization differs depending on scope. This exact thing has been proven by JonnyOThan in several other threads.

I'd imagine that you would have realized that when they say the spread has a set mathematical range that that range cannot change dependent on zooming/scope. However it makes sense that their is a change in bullet magnetization when comparing the BR unscoped versus scoped. Of course no one considers this blatantly obvious answer because there is a video on MLG saying the BR is broken/a mystery/etc. and that MUST be the answer.

Stop listening to MLG. Decide for yourself. The BR is fine. It works fine.

~B.B.


I'm not sure I'm ready to concede the magnetism factor yet. If the magnetism is stronger scoped in (which I think we can agree on,) then why does the burst hit unscoped but not scoped at 'close' range? Unless the Spartan falls outside the tighter 'cone' of the auto-aim. IDK...

You know my opinion on the BR and why I think it's suboptimal right now. I hope you know this comes from my own deductions...

  • 08.19.2008 3:20 PM PDT
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This game is a PoS nubfest, i'm gone.

  • 08.19.2008 5:34 PM PDT

yeah... stuff.
BTW: Ingnore the dumb "Neonate449" name, i just wish i could change it. XD

i like the BR.

i dont get whats going. dont we have the right put comments and complains elsewhere besides here.
its a little dumb. (my opinion of course)

  • 08.19.2008 5:42 PM PDT
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Honestly, i cant see a differece with the halo 3 BR and the Halo 2 BR, i dont see what you all are whining about! i think people just suck with it so they try to blame it on bungie...

  • 08.19.2008 6:58 PM PDT
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the br is fine, quit complaining or go to another game. trust me bungie wont miss you.

  • 08.19.2008 7:48 PM PDT
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lol ya i agree with mr krowly ar duels made halo interesting hiding at a range and firiong with br = halo gettin so boring i stoped playing it srry to say this but when noobs camp with there brs halo loses players to either cod 4 or bf badcompany or gears of war its alot more excitin than .... spawn 1 snipe shot tehn br shot cuz noob cant snipe

  • 08.19.2008 9:37 PM PDT
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basically there needs to be less brs on certain maps it is completly over used in halo and has caused the game 2 get extremly boring close combat melle fights are alot more excitong than 3 br body shots and 1 head as soon as u spawn and since u has an ar u cant do anything about it

  • 08.19.2008 9:41 PM PDT

will bungie change the BR?
No.
So why are we still talking about this?

  • 08.19.2008 11:24 PM PDT

Posted by: DwD BenjReed
The 'Battle Rifle' itself, takes more skill than holding down the RT whilst having an Assualt Rifle equipped.

Hence why I play MLG Playlists.


This guy apparently wants to do whatever takes the most skill. I look forward to hearing of his achievements in the news someday...

  • 08.19.2008 11:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
mlgs are still fed up with the br being changed from halo 2 so stop listening to them they miss there mass murder machine gun
No. They are "fed up" because, according to them, the BR is inconsistent and unreliable.

  • 08.20.2008 4:35 AM PDT
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The reason we complain about the Battle Rifle is because it is so inconsistent.

If you shoot somebody in the head 4 times, they should die. Your bullets should not disappear.

Yes, bullets disappear, and Bungie has yet to fall off of the tall equine in which they are mounted on.

  • 08.20.2008 5:21 PM PDT
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Get owned

I have countless of vids where i hit them in the head with no shields and they just wont die, why does my ridicule turn red with a dot and miss? whats the point of even having a ridicule if your shots wont go where you aim?

  • 08.20.2008 11:37 PM PDT

Maybe you have a bad connection - I'm a heavy BR user and I never have this problem.

  • 08.20.2008 11:41 PM PDT

Apocalyptic FTW

will the auto update V2 fix this BR glitch http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/screenshot_viewer_popup.asp x?fs=true&ssid=40584964

  • 08.21.2008 1:05 AM PDT

We just need to instigate more elitism and Mythic shenanigans.

Posted by: OnsIaught
I have countless of vids where i hit them in the head with no shields and they just wont die, why does my ridicule turn red with a dot and miss? whats the point of even having a ridicule if your shots wont go where you aim?
The point of having ridicule is to laugh at bad spelling. The reticle is to indicate where you are aiming. Not where you will hit, but where you are aiming. It is logical in terms of both realism and gameplay to have some spread and inconsistency, which reduces the effectiveness of the weapon. There is a problem with disappearing bullets, which needs to be fixed, but the spread should remain.

  • 08.21.2008 1:07 AM PDT

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why isnt there a "The Only Spartin Laser Thread" thread?

  • 08.21.2008 2:44 AM PDT

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why isnt there a "The Only Spartin Laser Thread" thread?

Because the forums weren't inundated with repeat threads about the Spartan Laser as they were with BR topics.

  • 08.21.2008 4:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: kev987
i love thr BR
but what i cant get past is the AR we shouldn't spawn with it its way to powerful and its annoying as BLAM!

I think thoughthat the BR should be automatic that would be hot
Why? The Battle Rifle is stronger. All you need are 4 shots. The Assault Rifle is too unreliable. I feel more in control with the Battle Rifle.

[Edited on 08.21.2008 7:52 AM PDT]

  • 08.21.2008 7:52 AM PDT