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also feel free to check the thread I made regarding this.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=26532139&p ostRepeater1-p=1

  • 11.04.2008 6:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nokterne
Posted by: General Herb
Um, anyone complaining about the BR... Learn to LEAD your targets, and learn what ranges and how much to lead. I kill people across maps with the BR by leading 4 bodies ahead of them, and one head above. Please, don't complain about the weapon if you don't know how to use it
I have no qualms with having to lead your shots. I have a problem with the inconsistency of the BR. I doubt you can accurately predict the amount of shots it takes to kill someone across the map, even if your aim is perfect.

Nokterne, I don't think General Herb is capable of understanding why people really complain about the Battle Rifle.

  • 11.04.2008 6:35 AM PDT

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I love it. But the halo 2 battle rifle looks way better!

  • 11.04.2008 10:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: BerserkerBarage
Halo 3 (20)....................................................HaloC E (8)
Melee (3 ft)....................................................Melee (2 ft since no lunge)
Sword (4 ft)...................................................Shotgun (5 ft)
Gravity Hammer (4 ft)................................ Plasma Rifle (10 ft)
Flame Thrower (5 ft)...................................Plasma Pistol (15 ft)
Mauler (5 ft)..................................................AR (15 ft)
Shotgun (5 ft)...............................................Needler (15 ft)
SMG (10 ft)....................................................M6D (100 ft)
Spiker (10 ft).................................................Sniper (>100 ft)
Plasma Rifle (10 ft)
Sentinel Beam (15 ft)
Needler (15 ft)
Plasma Pistol (15ft)
AR (15 ft)
Brute Shot (20 ft)
Magnum (20 ft)
Carbine (30 ft)
Battle Rifle (30 ft)
Spartan Laser (>100 ft)
Sniper Rilfe (>100 ft)
Beam Rifle (>100 ft)

You left off the Rocket Launcher so I'll do the same. Now, I'm not a math major but it seems like Halo 3 has 35% of it's total weapons at 20 ft or more (where I'd say "mid range" begins). While looking at HaloCE it only has 25% of its total weapons at 20 ft or more (the M6D and the Sniper).

So, tell me why do you prefer a game that concentrates soooo heavily on "close-range bullet hoses"?

~B.B.
there al bullet hoses one just pulls the trigger 3 more times

  • 11.04.2008 2:08 PM PDT

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Lol, i love how many people in this forum are saying that there is nothing wrong with the battle rifle, though its the BR complain thread. But personally, I agree, the H 3 BR kicks ass and is my favorite weapon.

  • 11.04.2008 4:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
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BR kills in one shot it just gives a few warning shots...

  • 11.04.2008 4:31 PM PDT
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BR kills in one shot it just gives a few warning shots...
that has got to be the most noobed up sentence in the world...........

  • 11.04.2008 5:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Great_Pretender
Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
-TGP-

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BR kills in one shot it just gives a few warning shots...
that has got to be the most noobed up sentence in the world...........


Why?!?!?!

Read your Sig Now I Know!

Go Start a Group Where You Can Whine About The BR!!!!

Sry for anger but really why did you have to say something about that it was a joke...

[Edited on 11.04.2008 5:45 PM PST]

  • 11.04.2008 5:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
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BR kills in one shot it just gives a few warning shots...
that has got to be the most noobed up sentence in the world...........


Why?!?!?!

Read your Sig Now I Know!

Go Start a Group Where You Can Whine About The BR!!!!

Sry for anger but really why did you have to say something about that it was a joke...
iabsolutly hate the br its one of the most unskilled in this game 3 shots anywhere and then one somewhere near the head? seriously use a carbine you actually haave to hit the guy

  • 11.04.2008 6:16 PM PDT

it's just me against the world

the BR is fine it can still lose to other weapons unlike halo 2's BR

  • 11.04.2008 6:31 PM PDT

BR > AR.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=819145 433&player=AkinD23

  • 11.04.2008 11:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xplode441
Posted by: Shadow Wolf7347
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BR kills in one shot it just gives a few warning shots...
that has got to be the most noobed up sentence in the world...........


Why?!?!?!
i hate when people throw gernades and then come in and miss some and then hit you in the head.

Read your Sig Now I Know!

Go Start a Group Where You Can Whine About The BR!!!!

Sry for anger but really why did you have to say something about that it was a joke...
iabsolutly hate the br its one of the most unskilled in this game 3 shots anywhere and then one somewhere near the head? seriously use a carbine you actually haave to hit the guy

  • 11.05.2008 4:27 PM PDT

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The BR is a great weapon in the Halo seris. One of the best overall guns in all shooters.

  • 11.05.2008 5:37 PM PDT
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I'm tired of people having problems with the BR spread. I have never had any problems with it. It's not a sniper! You might as well say that they should fix the SMG spread because you can't kill people from across the map with it.

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  • 11.06.2008 6:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
I'm tired of people having problems with the BR spread. I have never had any problems with it. It's not a sniper! You might as well say that they should fix the SMG spread because you can't kill people from across the map with it.
I agree. I know people hate the comparison to "real life," but real automatic weapons have a spread. The recoil combined with the rate of fire makes laser precision impossible. The problem is, people think that they know how Bungie created the spread, instead of focusing on why they put in the spread. People should stop looking under the hood of the car and just drive.

  • 11.07.2008 5:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
I'm tired of people having problems with the BR spread. I have never had any problems with it. It's not a sniper! You might as well say that they should fix the SMG spread because you can't kill people from across the map with it.
I agree. I know people hate the comparison to "real life," but real automatic weapons have a spread. The recoil combined with the rate of fire makes laser precision impossible. The problem is, people think that they know how Bungie created the spread, instead of focusing on why they put in the spread. People should stop looking under the hood of the car and just drive.
What if the car isn't running properly, or as well as it could be?

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How is it not working properly or as well as it could be? The point of the spread is to simulate the real spread of an automatic rifle. Sure they could make it so every round out of the BR is spot on, but why would they? That's not how a real rifle works.

  • 11.07.2008 8:36 AM PDT

Nokterne if you wanna play a game with unrealistic spreads and your bullet goes right in the center of your reticule every time go buy an N64 and play some James Bond or Perfect Dark. If you hate the BR spread in Halo so much then just dont play Halo.

  • 11.07.2008 8:53 AM PDT
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the inconsistancy is terrible when it comes to longe range on large maps in swat.

  • 11.07.2008 9:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Old Papa Rich
How is it not working properly or as well as it could be? The point of the spread is to simulate the real spread of an automatic rifle. Sure they could make it so every round out of the BR is spot on, but why would they? That's not how a real rifle works.
Please stop using the realism argument. Do you actually think it's possible for real plasma to behave the way it does in Halo 3?

FACT: None of the Halo games are even close to being realistic.

Also, if Halo WAS realistic, you wouldn't be playing it. Entertainment and functionality are more important then realism.

  • 11.07.2008 11:39 AM PDT

Posted by: pender16
Nokterne if you wanna play a game with unrealistic spreads and your bullet goes right in the center of your reticule every time go buy an N64 and play some James Bond or Perfect Dark. If you hate the BR spread in Halo so much then just dont play Halo.
You assume that I don't enjoy Halo 3. Why would I even post here if I didn't care about the game, and didn't want to see it improved?

I don't think it's unreasonable for me to want my bullets to hit the center of the reticle. That's a pretty basic element of first person shooters.

[Edited on 11.07.2008 11:49 AM PST]

  • 11.07.2008 11:48 AM PDT
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WARTHOGS ARE REAL

  • 11.07.2008 1:46 PM PDT

Posted by: Old Papa Rich
How is it not working properly or as well as it could be? The point of the spread is to simulate the real spread of an automatic rifle. Sure they could make it so every round out of the BR is spot on, but why would they? That's not how a real rifle works.


I agree; the spread should simulate the real spread of an automatic rifle. Lets take a look at a current real life rifle that can be compared to the battle rifle, the m16. Lets just browse through some stats here... 3 round burst, yes, that sounds about right... lets just take a look at the range now...

WOA! Apparently the "real life" counterpart to the BR shoots three-round bursts at an effective range of over 500 meters. That means it can hit a target within a few inches at 500 meters, assuming proper aim, every time. Hmmm, the BR seems to only shoot accurate bursts at 30 meters, if that. That doesn't sound realistic at all, especially considering 500 years of new technology that would be included in the BR.

So if you're going to use the "realism" argument, which is stupid to begin with, at least get your facts straight. The BR spread is in no way "realistic."

[Edited on 11.07.2008 2:22 PM PST]

  • 11.07.2008 2:20 PM PDT