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Subject: The Only BR Thread

GET TO DUH CHAWPA!

I actually like the Halo 2 BR better.

  • 08.17.2008 1:36 PM PDT

I just don't like the fact that it is unreliable, regardless if the host is good or not. I just wish more people played Xbox Connect so I could play Halo CE all day.

  • 08.17.2008 8:34 PM PDT

bullet refund and RNG controlling bullet spread is top-notch design.

  • 08.17.2008 8:54 PM PDT
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Seriously, the BR is the best weapon and people are just complaining because they can't get a kill with it. I like it better because it doesn't act like a single shot weapon anymore. It's better because you can spray your shots and get (potentially) 3 kills with 1 BR shot.

  • 08.17.2008 9:02 PM PDT
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  • 08.17.2008 9:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: mooshmoossh
I like the BR just the way it is.

I really don't see what's wrong with it.

I feel the same way



same way.

  • 08.17.2008 10:09 PM PDT
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Learn to 4 shot noobs

  • 08.17.2008 11:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: mooshmoossh
I like the BR just the way it is.

I really don't see what's wrong with it.


I agree the BR is one of the best weapons especially if you've got a bit of range, and aim at the enemie's head then it is a great weapon, maybe not a power weapon, but good none the less.

  • 08.18.2008 1:08 AM PDT

Point being
the br sucks on this game.
Lets create a br, with a bullet spread that changes when you zoom in and fire opposed to when you fire without zooming.
Add in dropped bullets,
Weaker bullets as well,
and you have a weapon that is a piece of crap.
Halo 2 BR > Halo 3 BR
Im actually ashamed to call it a "battle" rifle,
more like an airsoft rifle.

  • 08.18.2008 1:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: mooshmoossh
I like the BR just the way it is.

I really don't see what's wrong with it.


Same I don't see what's wrong.

  • 08.18.2008 5:59 AM PDT
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The Battle Rifle is fine. Noobs who can't use it just want it changed so the can randomly run in with an Assault Rifle and win.

  • 08.18.2008 7:26 AM PDT
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everbodys forgeting that over the internet u do get some laggy games and if ur a second out ur opposition has got one over u. Normaly it still takes me 4 hits to kill the oposition but some games it can take me up to six cus the game lags - which is not good.

  • 08.18.2008 7:50 AM PDT

theres nothing wrong with the BR its a good weapon

  • 08.18.2008 8:28 AM PDT

Watch your back,and fear wat comes.

yeah but its getting overused and so is the go-camping-and-sniping thing i mean thats wats starting 2 make Halo a little bit more boring, i mean most of the fighting when it 1st came out happened at close 2 mid range and that was awesome w/ all the carnage,killing and explosions. Halo would have a much higher gamer population if things went back 2 the old days w/ the killer AR 2 AR close combat,besides sniping is overrated pick up a shotgun and have some real trigger happy fun =)=)=)=)=)

  • 08.18.2008 9:48 AM PDT
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i love thr BR
but what i cant get past is the AR we shouldnt spawn with it its way to powerful and its annoying as BLAM!

I think thoughthat the BR should be automatic that would be hot

  • 08.18.2008 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: YungCh33zy
Point being
the br sucks on this game.
Lets create a br, with a bullet spread that changes when you zoom in and fire opposed to when you fire without zooming.
Add in dropped bullets,
Weaker bullets as well,
and you have a weapon that is a piece of crap.
Halo 2 BR > Halo 3 BR
Im actually ashamed to call it a "battle" rifle,
more like an airsoft rifle.


Wrong. Please try to know what you're talking about before spouting random crap. Spread is independent of scope.

How can you complain about dropped bullets. They happened all the time in Halo 2. Weaker bullets? Than what? The AR? The Sniper? The Shotgun? What? It can't be the H2 BR because it takes the same amount of bullets to kill in H3 than it does in H2.

~B.B.

  • 08.18.2008 10:17 AM PDT
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I think the BR is fine, the spread seems even

  • 08.18.2008 3:16 PM PDT
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compared to halo 2's br, in which 4 shots existed (.......) Like, since bullets were in a small stream instead of spread out, and hit when u shot, not like a 1/2 second later. But that can be fixed by changing the damage to 110% (mlg)

  • 08.18.2008 5:17 PM PDT
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Yeah, the BR is fine just the way it is, if they make the BR shot faster, it would be just to strong.

  • 08.18.2008 9:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: YungCh33zy
Point being
the br sucks on this game.
Lets create a br, with a bullet spread that changes when you zoom in and fire opposed to when you fire without zooming.
Add in dropped bullets,
Weaker bullets as well,
and you have a weapon that is a piece of crap.
Halo 2 BR > Halo 3 BR
Im actually ashamed to call it a "battle" rifle,
more like an airsoft rifle.


Wrong. Please try to know what you're talking about before spouting random crap. Spread is independent of scope.

How can you complain about dropped bullets. They happened all the time in Halo 2. Weaker bullets? Than what? The AR? The Sniper? The Shotgun? What? It can't be the H2 BR because it takes the same amount of bullets to kill in H3 than it does in H2.

~B.B.


This video would tend to suggest scoped shots are indeed tighter spread than non-scoped with the BR. Perhaps it's a function of the game considers you half the total distance between you and your target, or it is intentionally less random with scope. I don't know.

On the subject of dropped bullets, the only other game I've seen with major dropped bullet issues (more than 1% of games) is Gears of War. It happens in all games theoretically. It just seems to happen more in Halo Three. Is it packet loss? Perhaps. Is it a function of H3's netcode? Perhaps. Again, there are multiple causes possible to this effect.

On a side note, nice to see you again BB.

  • 08.19.2008 12:18 AM PDT
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I <3 the BR :)

  • 08.19.2008 12:34 AM PDT
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i thik that the BR is great as it is. and it even shoes the differences between the good and weak players. who ever complains about it , this is because they suck at it..

  • 08.19.2008 2:00 AM PDT
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People commenting in this thread should understand the primary complaints concerning the BR.

The spread of the three bullets is random meaning that the second and/or third bullet stray in certain instances a significant distance from the centre of the reticule, especially at longer ranges. The degree to which they spread is random within certain parameters and in many people's eyes can lead to BR contests being won by luck.

The second complaint mainly concerns online play but there are reports of LAN occurences. Bullet registration is inconsistent and bullets that hit on your screen don't always count. You will know sometimes from first person that they didn't count because you will see your ammunition go back up, be refunded. This is not always the case though and in my personal experience I have landed 24 bullets on a player with headshots in each burst, had no bullet refund and yet the player did not die (Green bar connection with no apparent lag). It is possible to check bullets hitting in theatre using slow motion so if you're certain you headshotted someone with no shields you probably did, just check theatre after the game.

If an option was included in the game for the BR spread to be reduced or eliminated use of the BR would require more skill as headshots would not be awarded for lucky spread and players would be rewarded for leading correctly at longer ranges essentially increasing the skill curve of the BR. Why Bungie refuse to do this even for custom game use truly eludes me.

To people saying that people complain about the BR because they can't use it / get kills with it, this has nothing to do with it.

  • 08.19.2008 6:32 AM PDT

hey..my farts unlocked the pink mist acheivment

the br is fine with me. i like it the way it is. a true skilled player can kill with any weapon.

  • 08.19.2008 7:01 AM PDT

I can see how people can say the BR is fine, it isn't too hard to get kills with, the real problem is that at a certain point there is going to be a kill you should get, because you are simply better than your opposition, but the BR "robs" you of that kill. There really shouldn't be the possibility of losing games (even to a remote chance, though I have heard BR accuracy to be as bad as 66%) because of RNG luck, or lack thereof.

I play with it a lot, and it isn't broken by any means, it is still a very functional and arguably the best weapon in Halo 3, but Halo is a game, and meant to be fun, and missing shots on a stationary target, with nothing but their head in your reticle isn't fun, when that same target turns and gets a kill on you, that is beyond not fun, it is downright frustrating.

  • 08.19.2008 8:14 AM PDT