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Subject: Are Brutes too difficult to kill in Halo 2?

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Poll: Are Brutes too difficult to kill in Halo 2?  [closed]
They are too strong, it isn't fun to play.:  19%
(10 Votes)
They are just fine, it is fun to play.:  63%
(34 Votes)
They are too weak. Strengthen them up!!:  19%
(10 Votes)
Total Votes: 54

In Halo 2, Brutes were super deadly. You feared Berzerking more than anything and they were always so violent. In Halo 3, the Berzerking doesn't hurt you at all and the Brutes lay back a lot. They aren't too assertive.

l personally like the level of difficulty that Brutes offur in Halo 2. They are way too underpowered in Halo 3, but the l like how Halo 3 puts in the "pack" idea. The Brute Pack concept was cool because they all work together and stuff. l really like how that works.

lf they inserted the Halo 2 strength of Brutes with the Halo 3 style of Brute combat, then that would kick ass.

  • 07.06.2008 3:42 PM PDT

Make a move I dare ya.

In halo 2 if a brute went berserker you were -blam!- in halo 3 I find grunts are harder to kill than brutes

  • 07.06.2008 5:15 PM PDT
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YES I hated having to fight brutes its like they never died. Plus playing on legendary makes it even tougher.

  • 07.06.2008 5:16 PM PDT

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Well, you two posted different answers. This is good. l'll dissagree that Grunts are easier to kill, but we're all about sharing our opinions.

Wow, this forum is so slow. It seams like nobody even knows that this forum exsists! That sucks.

Anyway, the way that Brute packs work in Halo 3 is really awsome, but the problem is that unless you play on Legendary, there really isn't a challenge when you get on a 1 v 1 fight. If you had Halo 2 strength Brutes mixed with a pack of Halo 3 AI, then that'd be awsome!

Plus, Berzerking doesn't do anything in the new game. All that they do is ram their head into your armor and hope that you fall down.

  • 07.06.2008 7:16 PM PDT

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If you use the carbine you will be fine with the brutes, head shots should be your highest priority.

But a wise choice would be to not get in a melee battle.......not unless you have the sputnik or you are on easy

  • 07.07.2008 5:47 AM PDT
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I like what the Brutes are in 2, especially since the CE Hunters ended up being so easy to kill. The Hunters were bulked up in 2, and I think that Bungie made a concerted effort to not have a big bad enemy that could be killed as easily as CE Hunters were. Headshots with the carbine, or double wielded needlers are the best for normal and beserking Brutes. With envy and a brute shot, you can melee them from behind with one hit to kill them.

  • 07.07.2008 7:10 AM PDT

Yeah, I agree, because brutes were the main enemy in 3 bungie had to make them less specialised and more rounded. In 2, they were meant to be a change of pace from elites so they were different.

I have no idea why they went from a good berserk mode to a crappy one though. Sure the one in 2 seemed a little glitchy, but they were very fast and unpredictable. In 3, you can see one go berserk, get up and make a sandwich, come back and step out of the way before he hits you.

  • 07.07.2008 8:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: RhythmKiller
Yeah, I agree, because brutes were the main enemy in 3 bungie had to make them less specialised and more rounded. In 2, they were meant to be a change of pace from elites so they were different.

I have no idea why they went from a good berserk mode to a crappy one though. Sure the one in 2 seemed a little glitchy, but they were very fast and unpredictable. In 3, you can see one go berserk, get up and make a sandwich, come back and step out of the way before he hits you.
That is a very good point.

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  • 07.07.2008 9:37 AM PDT

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They are easier than Elites.

About 4 hits from PR kill so you can't charge. When you cause some damage they retreat and soon they are back with full shields.

The berseker was also much more threatening. In Halo3 they are clumsy and slow, but their melee is 1 hit kill so there's no excitement of escape.

They were shallow in Halo2, you just love Elites a lot more. In Halo3 they are more respectable as a race, but I wish they were more natural with their berseker and intelligence.

Brute ramming towards me in narrow corridor Halo2> Brute ramming towards me in --- Halo3

  • 07.07.2008 9:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: kalle90
They were shallow in Halo2, you just love Elites a lot more. In Halo3 they are more respectable as a race, but I wish they were more natural with their berseker and intelligence.
l dissagree. l loved to fight against Brutes in Halo 2.

  • 07.07.2008 10:29 AM PDT

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You didn't read my full post I believe. I do think Brutes were funny in Halo2, especially when I had dual Needlers or Carbines. Their berseker was lot more threatening and exciting. You could kill them second before they hit you, and you could also fight them close range.

I just overall love Elites whether they are enemies or allies, even more the allies part. Back then the Brutes were just brutal and evil mass. Perfect enemies for Elites. They weren't too hard to kill either.

In Halo3 Brutes did have the hierarchy, personalities and they were overall more real. On the other hand they became very passive and berseker/melee was slow and clumsy.

  • 07.07.2008 2:28 PM PDT
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(Am sure our buddy Womyfts will agree,) H-2 Brutes were more challenging, and therefore, more satisfying. The thundering gorilla charge was miles better than the three year old kid throwing a fit berserker in H-3.
Actually found myself timing the second remaining Brute kills (Gravemind) in anticipation of dealing with the last survivor.
They weren't tooooo difficult (Needler, Grenade, Carbine), but pretty fraggin tough and frustrating at times.
Like H-1 Elites.


  • 07.07.2008 5:32 PM PDT
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I do not know if this applies in H3, since I have never played it, but you can escape a beserking Brute in H2 by jumping on top of something and just standing there. Take the battle at the beginning of one of the later levels (name escapes me, begins just after the gravemind has sent you and the arbiter your seperate ways) that chamber with the football grandstands has numerous places on the floor of the chamber to jump up and just stand there while the brute beats himself against the side of the riser you are standing on. The best way to defeat this part of the level is to kill everything except one beserking brute and then go down to the floor to re-arm while he is roaming around. Once you have everything of value back up in your hidey hole at the top of one side of the stands, you can take him out and the next wave comes into your newly weaponized and lethal range. Rinse and Repeat! That battle is an absolute blast with Sputnik and Catch!

  • 07.08.2008 8:14 AM PDT
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ARBITER, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!!! WORT WORT WORT.

I have yet to see a Brute berzerk in Halo 3. Shoot them up, punch them and you have enough time to brush their teeth with their mouths hanging agape like they do, just dumbfounded by you having punched them. Man in Halo 2, you never got close to a Brute because it meant you were punched twice instantly every time.

I think the pack idea sucks in terms of difficulty. It makes owning them a lot easier, just chuck a spike nade in the side of one guy and the one next to him gets killed by the spikes while the first dies from being stuck. It makes the game so much easier.

If Brutes with their new energy shields, which don't regenerate nearly as fast as an Elite's I may add, are supposed to be the new Elite in campaign, they sure beefed on that one. They're just grunts with bigger guns and lame shields.

I died less on Halo 3's heroic than I did on Halo 2's normal. That's how challenging your Brutes are.

  • 07.08.2008 12:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: HaloKing343
Well, you two posted different answers. This is good. l'll dissagree that Grunts are easier to kill, but we're all about sharing our opinions.

Wow, this forum is so slow. It seams like nobody even knows that this forum exsists! That sucks.

Anyway, the way that Brute packs work in Halo 3 is really awsome, but the problem is that unless you play on Legendary, there really isn't a challenge when you get on a 1 v 1 fight. If you had Halo 2 strength Brutes mixed with a pack of Halo 3 AI, then that'd be awsome!

Plus, Berzerking doesn't do anything in the new game. All that they do is ram their head into your armor and hope that you fall down.


Exactly. Brutes are SUPPOSED to be the strongest race that ever came to the Covenant. In the books, even Spartans had all kinds of trouble taking a few out. Then Halo 3 came out and they are worse than Elites. It kind of kills the whole "strongest race" idea.

I figured Brute + Armor would be insane. Turns out they were stronger, harder, and tougher in Halo 2 when they didn't have any.

  • 07.08.2008 9:10 PM PDT
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Lol, after reading all these posts, you would think that tartarus's brutes would be sucky, compared to the shielded brutes of halo 3. Of course, I havent played Halo 3, but if you what you all say is true, then it seems the brutes of Halo 3 need an update so they can be, well, Brutes overall.

Anyway, dont you just love the way, a brute sounds when you kill them in Halo 2? I get a lot of enjoyment, fighting them, they dont have shields, but they have insane stamina, meaning in Higher difficulties, you have to head shot them, or use needlers, of course, you might need a little luck when facing the ones with honor guard armor (cant head shot them) with some sticky grenades.

  • 07.09.2008 7:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: WACCSMD
I think the pack idea sucks in terms of difficulty. It makes owning them a lot easier, just chuck a spike nade in the side of one guy and the one next to him gets killed by the spikes while the first dies from being stuck. It makes the game so much easier.
l dissagree, but that's just me.

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  • 07.09.2008 7:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloKing343Exactly. Brutes are SUPPOSED to be the strongest race that ever came to the Covenant. In the books, even Spartans had all kinds of trouble taking a few out. Then Halo 3 came out and they are worse than Elites. It kind of kills the whole "strongest race" idea. Well, in Fall of Reach, the Elites were portrayed as super strong too. I think it's important to realize that was probably added in for drama.

I prefer the Brutes in Halo 3. The ones in Halo 2 were giant bullet sponges that would have made for excellent linemen.

  • 07.09.2008 10:37 PM PDT
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ARBITER, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!!! WORT WORT WORT.

The working as a pack thing makes them easier to kill. They both, or all of them, do the same thing, which gives you time to maneuver into the pack and assassinate at least one of them. There's nothing hard about the whole fighting as a pack thing. That oh big and beautiful thing fails, just like the "random sniper spawns" in Sierra 117 that Bungie mentioned in an update before the game launched. There's nothing random about the snipers and where they spawn, nothing that makes it challenging like they said it would. Halo 3 campaign is a complete let down.

This is the Halo 2 forum. We know that Brutes weren't infected by the Flood because they didn't have the neural capacity to suit the Flood's needs. They were immune because of it. Oh wait, it's Halo 3 and now all the rules regarding the Flood change so we can have more drama and a 100% genuine fail campaign? Oh yeah, Sarge somehow lost those regenerative traits too.

Halo 3 is a let down. I die the same amount of times on Halo 3 heroic as I do on Halo 2 Normal. The Brutes didn't make the cut. Neither did the Flood. I'm sticking with just me and the Arbiter.

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Now that I've gotten some time & distance, must agree with pretty much all of the above.
Not to turn into comic book guy, but the 'Once immune Brutes' may be susceptible to Flood since it has "evolved" in H-3.
And as for the other person above, there are berserking Brutes in H-3.
They just look really lame and don't do anything that poses more than a minor inconvenience.

Did a 12 minute no die level on Legendary the other day in H-3.

Uhh...Halo 2 anyone ?

  • 07.10.2008 4:53 PM PDT

Posted by: WACCSMD
Oh wait, it's Halo 3 and now all the rules regarding the Flood change so we can have more drama and a 100% genuine fail campaign?

Still better than halo 2 campaign.

  • 07.11.2008 4:47 AM PDT

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Brutes were tougher in Halo 2.

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  • 07.11.2008 6:08 AM PDT

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they are way to easy to beat, like just hit them in the back or blow them up or something.

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True, it depends on the difficulty on which you play.

  • 07.11.2008 9:17 AM PDT

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I agree, the Brutes in Halo 3 are VERY weak when compared to the Elites and the Brutes from Halo 2. Often when I play for fun, I put the Mythic skull on to make them more resiliant like how they were in Halo 2. Most of the enemies in halo 3 are a little bit weaker than they were in Halo 2.

  • 07.17.2008 6:47 PM PDT

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