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Subject: (The Flood) I don't know if this has been speculated or not, bu...
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Is it possible that the Forerunners ARE the Flood? They had been experimenting with a way to animate the dead or something, and when they realized that the creature become what the Flood is now, they decided that it was out of control and in their last attempts at salvation they made the Halo to destroy the Flood.

So, they sort of created their own destruction. Halo is the way they were planning on saving the OTHER species of the world by "containing" the flood.

Anyone have any thoughts?

  • 06.25.2004 8:15 AM PDT
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They are not the flood. The forerunner were supposed Gods, not biological beings that thrive on other living species. Besides, the forerunner created the flood.

  • 06.25.2004 8:19 AM PDT
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the forerunner were god-like not gods

go read the covenant primer

  • 06.25.2004 8:21 AM PDT
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I know they created the flood... But what if when they created them, in effect they destroyed themselves because the flood killed them abd they BECAME the flood. Like zombies...

  • 06.25.2004 8:24 AM PDT
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your origianal theory was good. by created it could mean that they were messing around with means of improving themselves and in doing so became the beginning of the flood. kind of like us humans messing around with DNA. maybe someday we'll scew ourselves.

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by created it could mean that they were messing around with means of improving themselves and in doing so became the beginning of the flood. kind of like us humans messing around with DNA. maybe someday we'll scew ourselves.

This is exactly what I meant. Thanks for the post.

In essence, the Forerunners ARE the Flood. They weren't born the flood or anything, they created and then BECAME the Flood.

  • 06.25.2004 8:29 AM PDT
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another plus to your theory is the flood are smart as stated in Halo. there ability to repair alien technology....

  • 06.25.2004 8:32 AM PDT
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Well, the Flood would just have decomposing bodies... if you notice, the attack versions of the Flood are falling apart (but the infection forms are nice and fresh), so even if the Forerunners got absorbed by the Flood, they would not live long enough to see Halo take place. And there aren't any attack or incubation forms before the Covenant and UNSC started falling and dying on Halo 04.

  • 06.25.2004 8:42 AM PDT
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But how would you explain the Covenant attacking the Flood? Unless they only know the Forerunners as their former selves, and don't know that they are actually the Flood.... The Covenant must be in the same dark we are. I guess this theory also explains why the Flood attacked the Covenant... only because they needed their ship...... hmm.....

  • 06.25.2004 8:43 AM PDT
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i don't know if anyone actually knows what the forerunners looked like.

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why would the foruners Create the flood if they built all those halos to contain them

  • 06.25.2004 8:48 AM PDT
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why would the foruners Create the flood if they built all those halos to contain them

trying to save themselves. I assume the Halos wipe out everything except for the Halos. So maybe the forunners lived on the Halos and kept some Flood to study trying to find a cure. Overtime they died out or all became infected and just left the monitors to mantain the facilities in hope that someday a cure for the flood virus might be found?

  • 06.25.2004 8:51 AM PDT
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The Covenant attack the Flood because the Flood presents a danger to all life, and attacks the Covenant, so they respond in kind. Don't think that the Covenant would take a beating and not hit back.

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The halos were built to STUDY the Flood, not just contain them. Perhaps while the Forerunners were studying them, one got infected. The infection spread and eventually ALL the Forerunners became Flood infected. The last of the Forerunners tried to contain their infected comrades on halo, and in the process, got infected themselves. But I don't think ALL of the Flood are infected forms of Forerunners, because it's definitely evident that some of the Flood forms are human and Covenant.

  • 06.25.2004 8:57 AM PDT
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right but some of the infected flood left could be the forerunners. i never said all of it was. because in halo humans had been infected too.

  • 06.25.2004 8:59 AM PDT
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You haven't seen any Flood forms that don't look new... you see Elite Flood and Human Flood... but no other ones that have a shape that is not derived from either of the armies. And the Flood are intelligent enough that when they rushed the Truth and Reconciliation, they would place the most important Flood forms in the heaviest groups that invaded.

  • 06.25.2004 9:11 AM PDT

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Whoa whoa whoa, hold on. it's never said that the Flood were created by the Forerunners only contained by them in the "containment facilities".

You're forgetting that the Forerunners, originally, are probably closer to humans than the infectious Flood. Guitly Sparks' smoking gun quote: "our lost time" aboard the Autumn (the Maw).

And anywho, the Covies fight the Flood outa self defense!

The Flood could have been a whole 'nother species found on a different planet (such like the various races of the Covenant).

The Forerunners realize that these strange ugly and vicious creatures actually are sentient (as we found out and as mentioned earlier in these posts), so after glassing the Flood Planets, (the Flood because of their consiousness and voracity are seen as a threat), they study them in Halo rings -huge prison worlds that make sure that "all sentient life" is destroyed if they are breached (hence eliminating the Flood threat but as a consequence, any other species to have evolved self-awareness).

Ok now if humans were Forerunner's why would they wipe themselves out too (we do have a sefl-preservation complex)? Did we just have faith that human life could re-evolve from the base forms of existences that were left after the firing of the Halo's? Did they move off to a very distant habitable galaxy? I think there's proof about the Halo's firing off before...in the game dialogue with 343GS... and we should remember that the Flood survive the Halo firing cause the infectious little guys aren't sentient! but they do need a sentient being to take over in order to reproduce/feast. So maybe the infectious forms are non-sentient but when they make contact with a brain cortex sufficient enough to grab onto - they then mutate it to serve it's own ugly Flood purpose.

Anyways if we/Forerunners created them then maybe it stems from one of Ackerson's evil plots -with mutating spartan DNA and stuff that eventually leads to Flood forms years later... like the ultimate weapon/soldier project that goes horribly horribly wrong...


[Edited on 6/25/2004 9:29:00 AM]

  • 06.25.2004 9:22 AM PDT
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Doom Sticks has some great ideas.

  • 06.25.2004 10:53 AM PDT
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The forerunners didn't create the Flood they found them. They knew that they were a virus that could over run the Universe. So they built Halo for them to live on but not to be able to leave.

  • 06.25.2004 10:59 AM PDT
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The forerunners didn't create the Flood they found them.

Do you know this for a fact? I didn't realize it had been spelled out that simply.

[Edited on 6/25/2004 11:13:37 AM]

  • 06.25.2004 11:13 AM PDT
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i say we stop speculating and wait until the game comes out. whos with me!

  • 06.25.2004 11:15 AM PDT
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What's the harm in speculating?

  • 06.25.2004 11:16 AM PDT
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Its just away to entertain ourselves in a way to ease and cover up the anticipation of Halo 2.

  • 06.25.2004 11:18 AM PDT
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I am!

  • 06.25.2004 11:21 AM PDT

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They didn't tell us what it was it could have been anything. Frankie gets scared easy incase you didn't know.

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well when people say the flood could be infected forerunners, remember in one level ( i forget which one) on a bridge there is a flood form bigger and stronger than the others but it isnt the hunters bc they cant be infected so i think that forerunners were bigger stronger humans. and in the flood there was another marine who went into the library and made it very far and died but it wasnt a marine from this time they landed so how did that one get there... 343GS calls mc the reclaimer which is the frist person to activate the rings. also think this he also says that MC has level 2 armow and that he would need level 8 armor or something which means that forerunner wore armor that looked just like MCs

  • 06.25.2004 11:26 AM PDT

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