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The Spartans' Origin

Spartan's. Selected as birth to be the ultimate soldiers. Soldiers designed to be tough and hard as nails...
Who are they?
The spartans, as I said previously, were selected at birth to be the ultimate soldiers, yes I said AT bearth. Yes Halsely chose them for the program when they were six but she didn't choose who the candidates would be. As we all know the spartans all had special characteristics that set them apart from the other children. Whether that may be in smarts or strength it didn't matter. All these children, FROM BIRTH, were incredible.
We all know (or think we know) that the Forerunners were a race that visited many planets. We also know the Covenent think of this ancient race as a form of gods. In sense the Prophets are the "popes" or priests of the Covenent. They act as wise men informing there rulership of the learnings of the Forerunners. They worship the gods unwaveringly.
Do they?
In the recent halo novel (First Strike) at the end of the book the prophet proclaims:"Soon all the relics of the gods, no matter how precious, will be no matter". A unimportant statement perhaps? No. In fact this statement is what started this delve into mistery. We all know that in our day and age religion is falling. Perhaps the same thing is happening with the Covenent. There belief in the religion may be faltering. Keep this in minde.
How did the Covenent first begin this belief in the Forerunners? We know the Forerunners visited many planets. We also know that they left behind certain ruins and items. It is more then likely that the Prohets, who perhaps lived on one of these planets, discovered these ruins. Imagine, the Prophets living on a planet. Primitive and desolate, desperate for anything. Perhaps a group discovered ancient writing on a rock or ruin of some sort. They spent years understanding this writing. Then finally they shared it with the rest of there race.
Now these advancing Prophets spent years apon years learning there teachings. In this sense they evolved. Untill the created there first piece of inter-galactical technolagy. Using this hardware, they travelled to planets trying to find more relics of the Forerunners untill the came apon a planet.
This planet, was inhabited by Grunts. The Prophets used there intelligence and technolagy to force the grunts into there rule. Using the Grunts they created more and more advanced items. Untill finally venturing out again and discovering the Elites.
The Elites, with there blood thirst liked the technolagy that the Prophets had. They were recruited into this "band" of aliens.
The Covenent was formed.
Now it is clear that all the aliens agreed with the teachings of the Forerunners. Later the Brutes and the Hunters (and perhaps others) would join them.
The Covenent traveled the stars. Looking for more lessons. Untill they came apon a piece of writing. This writing most likely spoke of creatures who resembled humans and tolled them of the horrible creations they have created and will create.
The Covenent vowed to destroy the Humans.
They spent years looking for humans. In time the Covenent fell out of touch with there beliefs.
Now the forerunners.
Everybody believes this race to be extinct but I do not beieve so. I believe they still exist. With technolagy so advanced that they discarded their fleshy bodies in favour of mechanicle ones. A robot race if you will. Now they most likely would keep a close eye on their "religious slaves". Sensing that the Covenent was getting less religious they got angry. They Devised a plan to destroy them. Sending hundreds of mini robots around the Universe for the perpous of discovering a race whoch had children. They found the humans. These robots in a sense "implanted" themselves into hundreds of children. These children were selected for one thing.
To be better.
With more intelligence, strength and other qualities they flourished but they never had a chance to use their special poweres. Untill Catherine Halsely was born. She was one who was implanted with a bot and it gave her a above average intelligence. Sensing an act of dusty (subconciously) she created the spartan program. She then selected the spartans.
Each one was an Implantee.
That is my opinion. So in a sense the forerunners DID create the spartans. Also on a sense Dr Halsely is also a spartan, sort of.
Thank you for reading my opinion of the spartans origins. Good Day.

[Edited on 4/19/2004 6:57:40 PM]

  • 04.19.2004 6:52 PM PDT
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feedback plaese?

  • 04.19.2004 6:55 PM PDT
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ummm actualy not at birth ..... ill read the rest now.

  • 04.19.2004 6:57 PM PDT
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ya u do that.......

  • 04.19.2004 6:58 PM PDT
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While the covenant maybe a strange group of fellows the flood are like bad-ass-mutant marshmallows

Halo not just a game but a way of life

your theory is good but why enhance them so much?

  • 04.19.2004 7:00 PM PDT
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dam that was long. but good theory

  • 04.19.2004 7:02 PM PDT
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i dont got the kinda time to read that

i bet its good though

  • 04.19.2004 7:04 PM PDT
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John was chosen by the Dr. because he was stronger then most. When they found him he was the one holding the hill in a game of king of the hill. Its not like he started out inhumanly strong he was just a litle stronger kind of like the class bully who was advancing through puberty just that much faster then the others making him stronger. He only became as strong as he was in Halo after harsh training and implants and the armor increased his abilities tramendously. I dont realy believe your theory but it is intresting.

  • 04.19.2004 7:08 PM PDT
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While the covenant maybe a strange group of fellows the flood are like bad-ass-mutant marshmallows

Halo not just a game but a way of life

so you are saying that the humans and the creation of the spartans are all linked to the forerunners? so why did the Doc build some more power full weapons so we could blast the covenant to hell faster? and why did we not know bout the flood? then?

  • 04.19.2004 7:08 PM PDT
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he was also smarter.

  • 04.19.2004 7:09 PM PDT
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hahahahahahaha.....................AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA
mini robots....why didnt i think of that?
theories dont work when you come up with some far-fetched fictional crap that relies solely on other far-fetched crap being true for it to work. What you end up with is layer upon layer of crap that couldnt possibly work.

  • 04.19.2004 7:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Archangel 058
he was also smarter.


yea that to

  • 04.19.2004 7:16 PM PDT
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Please don't make your topic subjects in all caps....it's so annoying.

  • 04.19.2004 7:16 PM PDT
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Good theory.

But....

I mean no offense, but a lot of that wasn't based on much... Especially the Covenant's history past the Prophets first discovering the Forerunner ruins. But you make it believeable. Personally, I think they shared the info with Elites first, because they're, as far as we know, second best in the caste system. Grunts would've been one of the newest additions, since they're looked down on so much.... maybe they're still not completely accepted.

And I disagree completely with the implanted bot in Halsey (again, no offense). I just think she's naturally a very gifted person that was hired by ONI to work on special projects, then she created (probably not by herself, though) her own project, the Spartans.

But I like you're thoughts on the selected AT BIRTH aspect. It makes a little bit more sense if the Spartans were "engineered" through selective reproduction (you didn't exactly say this, I know) instead of being selected after birth for it... To covertly select hundreds (there were many that didn't pass the personal screening exams) children out of billions (or trillions, depending on the collective human population out of all the human-occupied planets) at such young ages is incredibly hard to do... If they knew before hand what children they were going to go out and test if they'd be inaugurated into the Spartan program would be much easier... Perhaps the parents of the children weren't actually the real parents (or one might've not been the real parent).... this is a bit far fetched, so I'm sorry about that.

This is just what I think

  • 04.19.2004 7:21 PM PDT
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The Spartans were not chosen at birth. Nor did they have certain characterisitcs that were better than regular students. If you read the bookss, she chose John because he stood out more, especially beating the children in King of The Hill. I do take that back there was one girl who could run really fast....but that was it. The rest she just picked..
She=Dr.Hasley

  • 04.19.2004 7:21 PM PDT
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u forgot about the jackals bud. and i disagree almost totally about the forerunners making the spartans. i mean humans being the forerinners is one thing but them making human? dude come on. but i agree bout the prophets findin all them. but like i said, u forgot the jackals.

  • 04.19.2004 7:22 PM PDT
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It is a good theory it seems that the humans are the only ones to stand up to the Covenant for this long, you're saying they were selected by superior being to do so.

  • 04.19.2004 7:26 PM PDT
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Your robot theory is plausible....but i disagree...the forerunners, i believe to be a form of our ancestors, and the information and knowledge the characters are experiencing are rememnants of their ancient pasts sort of thing i think beginning to resurface. I haven't read ayn of the books or anything, just started playing the game a few days ago, but so far, i like it.

Maybe the Prophets found out that Humans carried this knowledge of the Forerunners and that is why they are so destined to destroy us(in the story of course). They are not afraid because they realize we are not aware on a concious level. But on a subconcious level we are.

  • 04.19.2004 7:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Derrick2004X
The Spartans were not chosen at birth. Nor did they have certain characterisitcs that were better than regular students. If you read the bookss, she chose John because he stood out more, especially beating the children in King of The Hill. I do take that back there was one girl who could run really fast....but that was it. The rest she just picked..
She=Dr.Hasley


I dont think Dr. Hasley had much of a say in who was chosen for the Spartan II project. She had a list of possible candidates deduced from genetic selection. Maybe by this stage in human society everybodys genetic code is on file. From this they could have some idea who would have the physical, as well as the mental aspects required for the project.

  • 04.19.2004 7:40 PM PDT

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The Spartans were not chosen at birth. Nor did they have certain characterisitcs that were better than regular students. If you read the bookss, she chose John because he stood out more, especially beating the children in King of The Hill. I do take that back there was one girl who could run really fast....but that was it. The rest she just picked..
She=Dr.Hasley


Explain why Halsey had a picture of John before she selected him from the playground... Although I understand your viewpoint, Derrick, I just think that the method you describe is a bit too random. No offense.

  • 04.19.2004 7:46 PM PDT
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I -blam!- love it!!! it was a great theory, good one, one of the bests, a little far off, but wonderful,
i didnt agree about the religion falling now days, maybe here in america, but that just because the media runs things and what people think, and they have made it appear that religion is falling.

  • 04.19.2004 8:30 PM PDT
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ok dudes i like da peops who give good advise but i dont like da HAHAHAHAHAHA people this is all theory so dont be a homo-blam!- -blam!- whore, yes I know the mini bot thing was far-fetched but at the time I couldn't realy think of a better way the forerunners are connected to the s-IIs cuz they are, remember in First strike fred (i think) runs his hand on that wall where the old writing is and a little bit of the blood goes on t? I believe thats like the DNA test, it would also explain how the spartans know so much about cov tech (I.E. when fred and da chick get into the tanks and know how to drive them) so ya



all theory, dont ba a flaming retarded sack of -blam!- ass monlkey brains

  • 04.19.2004 8:35 PM PDT
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by the way the robot thing (Forerunners) is bacuz of this

the monitor( guilty) said the rings would destry and i quote, " all sentient life in the known galexy" so unless the forerunners are extinct, or they live in some Unknow part of the galaxy, then they would have to do something to avoid being destroyed by there own creation, or perhaps, billions apon billions of years ago, there machines actually set off acidently and killed them.....hmm...


btw thanks for da...er praise NightAvenger

  • 04.19.2004 8:40 PM PDT
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Posted: 4/19/2004 7:26 PM



It is a good theory it seems that the humans are the only ones to stand up to the Covenant for this long, you're saying they were selected by superior being to do so.



P.S. yes I did forget about the jackals sorry, Im geussing they were merely discoverd like da rest, also I believe the grunts were discovere first because they would stand as a sort of sighn to elites of how amazing the prophets really are and how much power and knowledge they have, if they went to the elites first the elites would have killed, or overpowered, the prophets, the grunts were like a badge of honour

yes ninja im saying we were chosen as killers of da covenent, we shall sacrifice ourselves to save others! SACRIFICE OURSELVES TO SAVE OTHER PEOPLE! THINK ABOUT IT!


thanks for da feedybackys

[Edited on 4/19/2004 8:46:00 PM]

  • 04.19.2004 8:42 PM PDT
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It is a good theory it seems that the humans are the only ones to stand up to the Covenant for this long, you're saying they were selected by superior being to do so.



P.S. yes I did forget about the jackals sorry, Im geussing they were merely discoverd like da rest, also I believe the grunts were discovere first because they would stand as a sort of sighn to elites of how amazing the prophets really are and how much power and knowledge they have, if they went to the elites first the elites would have killed, or overpowered, the prophets, the grunts were like a badge of honour

yes ninja im saying we were chosen as killers of da covenent, we shall sacrifice ourselves to save others! SACRIFICE OURSELVES TO SAVE OTHER PEOPLE! THINK ABOUT IT!


thanks for da feedybackys

i dont think that we were chosen to kill the covies tho, cuz earth is about to be destroyed, humans have a long way to go before they start to win the war, so halo 2 should be interesting, i want to see how the humans fight the covies off. it will be very interesting

  • 04.19.2004 8:54 PM PDT

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