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Subject: E3 Announcement Shelved, For Now

Posted by: DEEP NNN
I'm very cranky about this whole misadventure.

I was induced to expend a significant amount of fan related time on all of this viral marketing stuff and related new game discussion, only to be kicked in the teeth.

I don't know whether to blame Bungie, Microsoft or both. On one hand I think why did M$ do this thing at the very last moment and on the other I think how come Bungie didn't see this coming.

I'll not be easily amused by future Bungie ad campaigns and cutesy gimmicks. I think Bungie should shelve that stuff for awhile.

Man, am I angry and I think I may getting more angry as I try to figure this out.

Dont be mad at Bungie, Harold Ryan is responsible for this.

But what I don't get is, he obviously knew Bungie was doing something big for the community. Why would he just cut it off 12 hours before it happened, rather then telling Bungie NO the first second they mentioned it.

  • 07.16.2008 11:26 AM PDT

Posted by: Major BlueBunny
Oh well thanks anyway... its because of Halo Wars i think. They want don't to steal there thunder...

No. Nothing Halo was even in Microsoft's PC. All Halo Wars got was a small showing at E3. A demo and a release date.

I also don't buy this whole, "they couldn't fit Bungie in" crap there saying. This whole thing with, "We want to focus on games coming out this Fall and Family Games" is complete crap as well. FF13 was in their conference and that doesn't have a release date. Resident Evil 2 doesn't come out till March! So, that is pretty hypocritical what there saying.

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overall really disapointing. i don't know the complete story but i would imagine yet again a higher up gave a deadline date that couldn't be possible to finish...the man bringing us down again lol

  • 07.16.2008 11:26 AM PDT

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I still don't think this is right. You guys had all of this information out in the open air for a couple of good weeks, so why did Microsoft delay it? Did they want the glory to go to another game or something? I'm confused. They should have known about it earlier instead of 12 hours before the posted time...


I'm not claiming to know the answer here, but the positive/gossip response that Final Fantasy got from its announcement on Tuesday probably create so much buzz that MS feels its better to delay this announcement and reveal it later.... its like an advantage that they can use in the next few months for their marketing..... FF was pretty BIG news, so why bother letting out the latest game from Bungie so soon....... MS Logic, not my preference of course :D


They're are almopst too concerned with their image now, Bungie's game would just be another "Hardcore" game that wouldn't do well in a family setting. But I guarantee you that any Bungie game will make twice the amount of money any "Lips" crap will make.


Not doubting your post at all, but if that is true, then these are indeed very sad times in gaming........ Lips is more preferable to announce than a new Bungie Game. :(

  • 07.16.2008 11:27 AM PDT

This would be where my signature goes...

Hmm... well if Microsoft double-killed Bungie's plans to announce something, and that something turned out to be the new Halo that MS supposedly leaked... well then I'd say Microsoft really sucks. If they did it to keep attention on another game, I'm seriously thinking about not getting that game (I'm looking @ GoW2)

That would be a pretty **** move on Microsoft's part, screwing up a good ARG like this and then leaking it afterwards. It'd be like someone watching a mystery-type movie almost to the end, then someone comes along and turns the TV off, then bluntly tells you the ending because they want to watch something else.

Regardless of anything said so far, though, it's not impossible for this to all be part of an ARG still... it'd be a very complex one, to be sure, but the whole point is to mess with people :)

Oh well :\

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  • 07.16.2008 11:27 AM PDT

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Epic probably ran crying to Microsoft that Bungie's announcement would ruin the sales of GOW2.

Maybe Bungie needs to send one of these to Epic and CliffyB.

  • 07.16.2008 11:27 AM PDT

You are not a mistake; God has never said "oops." Seek Him and you will find Him. Do not seek Him, and you will not find Him. He respectfully leaves the choice up to you.

Well, poop on a stick. This really is indefinitely postponed. I thought it might just be a matter of days, but from this it sounds like it's more like months.

That... that's...

You know, I could make a very creepy comparison here between the anticipation build-up and then then the removal of the awesome "right before the release" with a similarly frustrating experience, but... yeah, valid though the parallel might be, it's still kinda creepy. :P

  • 07.16.2008 11:27 AM PDT

Eat it

Bungie, I would just like to say that you guys are probably the greatest developers out there. Thank you for putting so much effort into this ARG. It was a blast. Hopefully, not to long down the road, Bunge.net members and the superintendent will meet again.

  • 07.16.2008 11:28 AM PDT

I have no time for filling out information, I'm too busy... bein' delicious.

Like I said on the last post, why is the superindentant icons flashing all over the site still. The bungie symbol in the top left corner of the page changes to the superindentant and then back within half a second. While writing this comment I saw it again, thats the sixth time today.

  • 07.16.2008 11:28 AM PDT

I blame microsoft. Not stosh.

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is this true?

MS was absolutely embarrassed by what Bungie had to announce and show. The upper echelon made a command decision to forbid Bungie from showcasing their latest, upcoming title, due to "an overwhelming potential for embarrassment", even for an unfinished product. Bungie was informed that until they have something worth showing, keep the announcement on hold. MS apparently was appalled by the decision of Bungie to "even think of showing this off". What they have to show looks so bad, MS was just plain embarrassed to "show it off". Bungie may make an announcement if/when they can showcase a little of the product, as long as that show and tell doesn't involve "embarrassing visuals..."

So turns out that it may be a good thing this got put on hold. I cant imagine how bad this Bungie game must of looked for MS to stop the announcement, but it mustve been horrible

  • 07.16.2008 11:28 AM PDT

I wanna curl up in a ball and suck my thumb...

  • 07.16.2008 11:28 AM PDT

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I'm assuming this also means the entire ARG is delayed, not just the announcement. Since all the SI sightings have started to disappear. Oh well, more time to get pumped for it when it does start back up.

Also, when it does start up, will it start over, or will it just continue from where it was a day or two ago? Although, I doubt you're allowed to answer that question.

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  • 07.16.2008 11:28 AM PDT

Posted by: Kagebutsu
Man microsoft can go suck a dick

They did: Epic's

  • 07.16.2008 11:28 AM PDT

Eat it

Posted by: cloud0852
is this true?

MS was absolutely embarrassed by what Bungie had to announce and show. The upper echelon made a command decision to forbid Bungie from showcasing their latest, upcoming title, due to "an overwhelming potential for embarrassment", even for an unfinished product. Bungie was informed that until they have something worth showing, keep the announcement on hold. MS apparently was appalled by the decision of Bungie to "even think of showing this off". What they have to show looks so bad, MS was just plain embarrassed to "show it off". Bungie may make an announcement if/when they can showcase a little of the product, as long as that show and tell doesn't involve "embarrassing visuals..."

So turns out that it may be a good thing this got put on hold. I cant imagine how bad this Bungie game must of looked for MS to stop the announcement, but it mustve been horrible


Ok, lets see... Name one thing from Bungie that was an embarrassment... now name one thing from MS that was an embarrassment...


Which one is easier to do?

  • 07.16.2008 11:29 AM PDT
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:/

  • 07.16.2008 11:29 AM PDT

O4B FTW!!!!!!!!!
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Holy -blam!-,
Did I just fix the link?
I THINK I DID.

Do you have an idea on how long it will take for the announcement?

  • 07.16.2008 11:30 AM PDT

Whoever came up with the name Lips should be fired on the spot.

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Posted by: cloud0852
is this true?

MS was absolutely embarrassed by what Bungie had to announce and show. The upper echelon made a command decision to forbid Bungie from showcasing their latest, upcoming title, due to "an overwhelming potential for embarrassment", even for an unfinished product. Bungie was informed that until they have something worth showing, keep the announcement on hold. MS apparently was appalled by the decision of Bungie to "even think of showing this off". What they have to show looks so bad, MS was just plain embarrassed to "show it off". Bungie may make an announcement if/when they can showcase a little of the product, as long as that show and tell doesn't involve "embarrassing visuals..."

So turns out that it may be a good thing this got put on hold. I cant imagine how bad this Bungie game must of looked for MS to stop the announcement, but it mustve been horrible


Ok, lets see... Name one thing from Bungie that was an embarrassment... now name one thing from MS that was an embarrassment...


Which one is easier to do?


bungie wont but MS will

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okay... that still doesnt answer out question... WTF!

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They don't even give a reason for the cancellation. I've lost alot of respect for the integrity of Bungie. -blam!- Microsoft. The games don't matter anymore, just the money. I love that this industry is growing, but now its just big business. Damn shame

  • 07.16.2008 11:31 AM PDT
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Plan to be surprised by it

Its ok Bungie - you were trying to create something amazing, but factors beyond your control got in the way.

It is a shame - the hype was immense, and iv never before know players on both teams discussing it before a game in a social big team playlist (you guys know who you are - kudos for being awesome) instead of trash talking. For a moment, the community were actually kind to each other, and treating each other with respect before the following fight. Never has that happened to me before.

But, that was just the run up to what would have been the announcement - imagine what people will be be like when you announce again? The community will be in a frenzy!

Anyhow, im cool with all this. Im patient. Ill wait for Bungie cos i love the guys. Hoping for no problems when you get round to releasing the news again!

  • 07.16.2008 11:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: cloud0852
is this true?

MS was absolutely embarrassed by what Bungie had to announce and show. The upper echelon made a command decision to forbid Bungie from showcasing their latest, upcoming title, due to "an overwhelming potential for embarrassment", even for an unfinished product. Bungie was informed that until they have something worth showing, keep the announcement on hold. MS apparently was appalled by the decision of Bungie to "even think of showing this off". What they have to show looks so bad, MS was just plain embarrassed to "show it off". Bungie may make an announcement if/when they can showcase a little of the product, as long as that show and tell doesn't involve "embarrassing visuals..."

So turns out that it may be a good thing this got put on hold. I cant imagine how bad this Bungie game must of looked for MS to stop the announcement, but it mustve been horrible

I would say Microsoft were embarrassed with their crap and Bungie would have out shone them.

  • 07.16.2008 11:31 AM PDT