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Subject: Cheating or not? You decide.

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Poll: Is this person cheating at Halo PC?  [closed]
yes, aimbot:  17%
(2 Votes)
yes, bluewall:  0%
(0 Votes)
yes both aimbot + bluewall:  25%
(3 Votes)
no, not cheating:  33%
(4 Votes)
not sure:  25%
(3 Votes)
Total Votes: 12

Please vote whether you think this person is cheating. The file may take awhile to buffer, but the quality is retained. Best to let file fully buffer and play though, then play it again.

http://media.putfile.com/blubot



[Edited on 07.17.2008 12:42 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2008 12:34 PM PDT
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This is a tough one. I would definitely suspect him, but wouldn't ban/kick. His ignoring of the vehicles and his strange behavior of where he looks is a little odd. That one section :50-:52 where he watches the wall for a while is probably the largest cause of suspicion. Then again, he could have just been moving his mouse back onto the mousepad or itching his nose or whatever.

I really don't have experience playing against aimbots though, and after watching 3 times, I can see why accusations are always controversial.

Also, could you explain bluewall? I'm not that familiar with it.

[Edited on 07.17.2008 2:00 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2008 1:59 PM PDT

"'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
-Abraham Lincoln

What was his final score?

  • 07.17.2008 2:16 PM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Posted by: Pet0sh
This is a tough one. I would definitely suspect him, but wouldn't ban/kick. His ignoring of the vehicles and his strange behavior of where he looks is a little odd. That one section :50-:52 where he watches the wall for a while is probably the largest cause of suspicion. Then again, he could have just been moving his mouse back onto the mousepad or itching his nose or whatever.

I really don't have experience playing against aimbots though, and after watching 3 times, I can see why accusations are always controversial.

Also, could you explain bluewall? I'm not that familiar with it.


I think your evaluation is pretty fair. The middle section is exactly what you should be noticing. Indeed this person is aimbottting as well as bluewalling. Bluewalling allows players to see through hills. It's not a wireframe, everything looks normal except people are bright red or blue and you can see them through all terrain. Plenty of these vids on youtube where you can see it.

I'm sure there will be people who can't see it, or won't believe it, and that's why I wanted to post an example of someone who is actively avoiding snapping by using the bluewall to aim in their general area before locking on.

Also, please notice how rapid fire he is but manages to literally score 100% of his shots at opponents' necks. Never once does he hit the stomach area or feet or anything like that. He doesn't shoot above anyone's head either...etc. Every shot goes to the exact same height with an incredible steady hand.


Pay close attention to the ~47 second area.


[Edited on 07.17.2008 4:25 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2008 4:15 PM PDT
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That was the part that seemed eerily mechanical to me. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, and it's tougher without a crosshair on there to see it. But yeah, most people don't have super steady hands like that.

  • 07.17.2008 4:54 PM PDT
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It was pretty obvious he was cheating from the lock-ons, although I would have preferred a crosshairs and at least 30 fps. But as far as bluewalling goes, I don't think you can know for sure from SJ footage. :(

You're right, though, that most smart aimbotters won't make large snaps. The only thing I can add is that if a botter is locked onto someone and they change direction, the bot will slide the crosshairs over to account for the change. It's a pretty smooth transition, in contrast with the initial frame-skipping snap. With a clickbot, you see a series of short snaps to the same part of a target's body, unless they hold down the fire button, which looks like a normal lock on.

  • 07.17.2008 5:11 PM PDT
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Video is too small to tell anything. Half the time I can't even see the guy that is being shot at b/c its so blury & small.

I highly doubt he was bluewalling. In reguards to the :50-:52 mark, it just looks like he is just checking on bat cave.

[Edited on 07.17.2008 7:10 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2008 7:00 PM PDT
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There's no reason to check on that cave ever. Probably the worst place to attack from, and he would have the advantage anyway. Plus you either check on something through the edge of the screen, or look straight on. He looks straight on through towards the base...

[Edited on 07.17.2008 7:50 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2008 7:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pet0sh
There's no reason to check on that cave ever.

Apperently you have never played in a large bg scrim, or quite possibly, a bg game ever.

  • 07.17.2008 8:48 PM PDT
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I would say not cheating. Theres no real snaps, he takes several shots to kill, and just about any kill he's made was in his periphrials (visible on one side of the screen or another).


I did see you had plenty of Jumping noobs spamming bot though. xD

As for what most people call "the bat cave" I've found it has a buttload of tactical value. Its one of the best places for both sides to mess with the opponents heads and if you're on blue you want to use that cave if reds attention is on the edge below or your base.

Plus you wouldn't believe how many nades you can make your opposition waste by coming in from either side. I'll usually get their attention on the cave, pull back and wait as nade after nade comes by or the guy chucking them gets taken out by someone on the edge. =D


Trust me, I've laid down plenty of kills from that cave. Not to mention snuck right past big hill base campers. ;)

[Edited on 07.17.2008 9:08 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2008 9:07 PM PDT

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I really can't tell.
It's to hard to tell without a recite, and that video seemed to have very choppy/low FPS.

  • 07.18.2008 12:58 PM PDT
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I'm gonna say no. I can only see one snap and that's at the end but it's certainly nothing conclusive and apart from that there is nothing that I would even consider 'dodgy' tbh. You could have done with some footage of him/her in close combat because if he/she was cheating then it would have been a lot easier for us to detect but still I don't think there are any hacks in use here.

  • 07.18.2008 1:25 PM PDT

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That's a hard one, I'd say probably with an aim-bot, but he could just be really good.

  • 07.18.2008 3:54 PM PDT