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Well, we all know that video games have been the scapegoat of kid's violence these days. Parents, teachers, and other community members have always accused video games of brainwashing kid to kill people.

Well, right here in Seattle (the center of MS and Bungie), they are instating a new law that allows people to sue the video game companies if their children commit a violent act because of playing video games. Of course, all started by a school teahcer/parent with her head in her...uh...yeah....

1. How do you know if your child commited a violent act caused by video games.
2. How can you blame video games alone, why not violent movies and other media forms?
3. How many kids that play video games commit violent acts regularly and are killers...me, I've never heard of any!

And anyway, aren't parents supposed to control the content their kids watch? Oy, we are getting to the point where people don't want to take responsibility for their kids. They'd rather leave it in the hands of the media and then get angry at them.

Thoughts on this?

  • 03.03.2005 6:53 AM PDT
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Someone told me a story about what happened to a friend of theirs, although i don't know if it's true or not?

He was driving along the road, faster than he should and this police car suddenly pulled out of a side road and chased him down to stop. After getting out of the car, the 'friend' walked over to the police car, jumped on the back of it and shot bullets all over the place into several people around the vicinity! After this he shouted at the police officer that he was a "camping n00b", jumped off the car shouted "gg...gg....gg all....you looooosers!!" and ran away.

Like i say, i dont know if it's true or not ;)

  • 03.03.2005 7:01 AM PDT
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I have to say it doesn't sound true but you never know. I totally agree with davis because there is no way they can prove that the game alone makes you violent. Heres a thought what if one day we are invaded by aliens, we halo players could kick there ass,well most of us.

  • 03.03.2005 8:12 AM PDT
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What the hell is this country coming to. I really dont think that a video game can make a kid go crazy and start to shoot people. Also you really cant blame the parents we should blame the United states economy. Becuase when you think about most kids parents both work and cause they both work then no one can wacth what there kid is doing. But my final thought is that if a kid shoot somebody because of a video game then i have to say that kid shoulod go to jail or a mental hopital because if his mind is so weak to be controlled by a video game then he is a danger to socity.

  • 03.03.2005 8:26 AM PDT
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Heyyo,

Hah! It's the parents fault. They buy them the violent games, they let them play them, and now? they make it so you can sue.. great. Hey, if I ever become a dad I'm givign my son a gun n' a copy of Counter-Strike and unleas him onna convenience store.. I could make a profit.

Lol, ok, to be serious, there's ratings on the boxes for a damn reason. I told my aunt this, and she's like, "ok" and next time I visit.. me young cousin is playing "Navy Seals" rated M... I mean, put some effort into this eh? What you say and do directly influences your kid. If he likes gaming? you should learn aboot gaming. If he's into sports? learn aboot the sports he likes. you can't have no knowledge then point the finger of blame at the first thing you think caused it.

Me? I'd tell my kids when they're older, and mature they can play the more violent games. Thank god I taught me younger cousin what me aunt can't: Games are ok to play, violent ones too. Just remember, it's just a game, don't EVER do this stuff in real life. Now if I kick back n' play a game with him he laughs n' has a blast. I taught him good sportsmanship n' how to keep the games with the games. That's how I'd handle parenting. Shielding only works soo much until the kid sneaks off n' tries it elsewhere. Might as well teach them aboot it n' tell them wether it's cool, or not cool to do that.

So? parenting's a 2 way relationship, kids n' parents. It takes effort from both sides to keep it a healthy family relationship.

  • 03.03.2005 9:46 AM PDT
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Thats what I dont get....Toddelers can play with army men with guns and swords and fighting.....and parents let their kids do that. I've seen kids play games in the playground based on an army action figure set, Preteding to slit throats, shoot people. Why video games. Bungie can be a target beacause you shoot aliens. I dont see any aliens i could kill right now. Can you?

  • 03.03.2005 9:51 AM PDT
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In reality there are people who will do stupid things because they saw them on a video game. Its a very small percentage but they are out there. In response to Davis's signature, I do think drugs is a major factor in this also because drug addicts tend to feel invincible and will try anything because they dont believe their will be any consequences. This law is ridiculous. How can a video game company be held responsible for a person's actions. If you read a history book and see that in the past beheading and gun duels were common practices. Do you sue history book publishers if one of your kids shoots another one because he took his crayon and thats how they settled disputes in the old days.

[Edited on 3/3/2005 10:13:12 AM]

  • 03.03.2005 10:10 AM PDT
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Blaming video games for violence is like blaming spoons for obesity...

  • 03.03.2005 11:55 AM PDT
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Heyyo,

Lol, Nicely put Jack, that pwns. ;)

  • 03.03.2005 11:57 AM PDT
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To make the answer short.....VIDEOGAMES DO NOT CAUSE VIOLENCE IN KIDS
Soaps like eastenders do

  • 03.03.2005 12:45 PM PDT
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Couldn't have put it better myself jack. Anyways, I think that our justice system need a serious looking at. The people who passed this law probably never even played a game in their life which is completely biased.

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They origonaly tryed to blame violent video games on the colembine shooting.... I think the parent is usually trying to get out of the spot light here and point the finger they most times konw nothing about. Most times it is people or society.

  • 03.03.2005 1:25 PM PDT
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Why do people even have guns? Security? Doubt it.

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If the U.S. is so hyped up on video game violence, why is it perfectly legal (correct me if im wrong) to own an assault rifle. What possible use could a civilian have for an assault rifle?
And yes, why can't the parents simply limit the content their children are exposed to? its like the "tv is too violent, ban all violent shows" argument. Why let your children watch something you deem to violent? Moreso, why do you care if someone else lets their kid watch? It isn't affecting you. Gah! So many hypocrites.

  • 03.03.2005 3:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: the man of many
Soaps like eastenders do


Lol, I watch that daily on the BBC. Kind of uneventful, really.

Yeah, I think the US is coming to a bunch of [excuse me] idiots and -blam!-, not wanting to take responsibility for their kids or their actions, and using the law as an excuse and video games as a scapegoat. I could just as easily say that rap and James Bond movies cause violence.

Good point, though, why can kids play violent video games while we sell assault rifles to people. It's a joke, what would someone really want to do with an assault rifle - mostly we know...

[Edited on 3/3/2005 4:05:23 PM]

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Same thing with movies. Take "The Matrix." People blamed that movie for violence because two kids who went on a shooting rampage saw that movie...along with about 100,000 other people who DIDNT go out and shoot people...

Besides, in my opinion, games are an opportunity to satisfy that natural (in some people) instinct of hunting and killing...without hurting somebody.

[Edited on 3/3/2005 4:47:05 PM]

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I play soccer to get rid of that instinct. Works pretty darn well too. Have you ever noticed that the angry players arent ever that good?

  • 03.03.2005 5:05 PM PDT
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I personally use games such as Halo to vent my frustration. Granted, I tend to get angry at things such as LANs but I dont go back to school with explosives.... I too feel that video games are not to blame for violence. They dont cause any more violence than movies or tv shows. But someone mentioned earlier that we shoot aliens in Halo and that they dont see any aliens here. *something to that affect* The only problem with that argument is the Multiplayer side of Halo. Spartans are humans. :/
But to blame a video game company for the lack of parenting is not the way to go. How did the kids get the guns in the first place without the parents knowing? Do they not pay enough attention to their children?

*Edit*
Notice that most of the people posting here on the forums have got the same thing in their sigs. *See below. Or above for that fact. All over the place!!*

[Edited on 3/3/2005 5:26:29 PM]

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Actually its just me, guesswhosback, sexy legs and you with that sig. DON"T DO DRUGS KIDS! ITS BAD.

  • 03.03.2005 5:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: sexy legs davis
Well, we all know that video games have been the scapegoat of kid's violence these days. Parents, teachers, and other community members have always accused video games of brainwashing kid to kill people.

Well, right here in Seattle (the center of MS and Bungie), they are instating a new law that allows people to sue the video game companies if their children commit a violent act because of playing video games. Of course, all started by a school teahcer/parent with her head in her...uh...yeah....

1. How do you know if your child commited a violent act caused by video games.
2. How can you blame video games alone, why not violent movies and other media forms?
3. How many kids that play video games commit violent acts regularly and are killers...me, I've never heard of any!

And anyway, aren't parents supposed to control the content their kids watch? Oy, we are getting to the point where people don't want to take responsibility for their kids. They'd rather leave it in the hands of the media and then get angry at them.

Thoughts on this?


Amen.

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Actually its just me, guesswhosback, sexy legs and you with that sig. DON"T DO DRUGS KIDS! ITS BAD.


*Not helping the cause here!*
LOL
But It seems like most of the posts have this sig. Maybe its just because we all post a lot, but I see this everywhere.

  • 03.03.2005 6:03 PM PDT
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I'm sure that bill will be vetoed because that is considered unconsitutional. If they pass that law, then that means fat people can sue any fast food resturant because they are eating and it is making them fat.

[Edited on 3/4/2005 12:58:00 AM]

  • 03.04.2005 12:56 AM PDT
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Heyyo,

Yeah, these stupid laws.. it's rediculous. America's becoming whiney, and capitalisim already is the ruler of the states. look at that 1 case going on, 1 small time company's suing several large companies cause they say they "pattened" animated polygons or some junk like that... omg, I hope they lose cash on this lameness.

Ya know what's sad? South Parks satirical humor of "parents blaming anything and anyone" is darn true. That one's aboot kids watching a movie of their favorite tv show and they swear n' stuff, so they all start to swear, and the parents blame Canada... lol, in this case? kids play games they're not mature enough for, they immitate them, parents blame game companies.

In the words of the Royal Canadian Air Farce: "God Help America." yep.

  • 03.04.2005 11:46 AM PDT
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That law is F**KING CRAZY!! Why do parents buy their kids BB guns?! Those could be the cause of violence! How about books about criminal shootings or Tom Clancy books? (no offense to Tom BTW) And what about movies like "Terminator" or "S.W.A.T."? Think about it for a sec...

  • 03.05.2005 10:33 PM PDT

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