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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 8/01/08

WTF no gameplay-tweaks and -fixes? :(

  • 08.01.2008 6:13 PM PDT

I don't want random messages (ie, Join my group, etc). I have begun blocking solicitations.

Also, those complaining about AU 2 being "experience only" should read the Update Carefully. It says a lot of changes are "under the hood". That is, non-overt changes; changes that wont be easily noticed. But if you pay attention, you'll see them. I know besides the melee duel, I noticed H3 acting slightly differently across the board when AU 1 came out (I don't know what they are any more since I've become used to them).

  • 08.01.2008 6:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Moose205
So in ranked playlist as I win I get EXP that contributes to my playlist rank as well upping my skill in the specific playlist?

Skill doesn't matter anymore, but your highest skill still shows on your Service Record. Exp is the new "Rank up!" currency.

  • 08.01.2008 6:13 PM PDT

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No guardian Ball re-added to MLG playlist?

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  • 08.01.2008 6:13 PM PDT

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Will I lose my General or does that stay my overall rank?
I THINK if you have enough EXP in a specific playlist, you will keep your general.

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  • 08.01.2008 6:13 PM PDT
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Will I lose my General or does that stay my overall rank?
I THINK if you have enough EXP in a specific playlist, you will keep your general.


False. The Playlist ratings information isn't trackable until AU2 is released.
So our experience WILL be reset. But not our level?

Your exp PER PLAYLIST will be reset, you will still have an overall "bucket" of exp that will keep what you had.

  • 08.01.2008 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: BulldogK9
Question:


Authors of uploaded modified content received the following prizes:

* The account is permanently banned from Matchmaking
* Permanent loss of File Share functionality.
* The Xbox hardware has been banned from Halo 3 for a month.


Can someone explain the difference between the first prize and the third? Is the third just Halo 3 on Xbox Live for a month or does the power exist to prohibit a certain box from running software offline?

If it's a monthlong Xbox Live ban -- is that only Halo 3 online or is it all online multiplayer?


First Prize: You can go create a new account and start playing again immediately on that new Gamertag.
Third Prize: Your Xbox is banned for one month regardless of how many accounts you try to use on it.


That's what I was wondering -- and it makes sense. It doesn't affect the offline play. (Not that any of this applies to me.) I was troubled by the possiblity that Microsoft might have implemented technology that could be used to bar someone from using a disc-based game offline.

  • 08.01.2008 6:14 PM PDT

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wouldn't this au2 kill double exp weekends?

  • 08.01.2008 6:14 PM PDT

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-Blam!- dude, I got some serious rusty water from the pork...

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Alright, I kinda get it now, but why do we need another rank? It seems so unnecessary compared to what could've been in the AU2.....beta trip mine......

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Posted by: DreadRex64
I still don't understand. So, what your saying is, you basically gave us 2 ranks for ranked playlists, and a rank for social. Now what I want to know is, why does social need ranks? Wasn't that the whole point of social? No skill ranks?
Social has always had hidden level ranks. I do not know if they will be visible now that we are working off the experience as well.

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  • 08.01.2008 6:14 PM PDT

Posted by: DreadRex64
I still don't understand. So, what your saying is, you basically gave us 2 ranks for ranked playlists, and a rank for social. Now what I want to know is, why does social need ranks? Wasn't that the whole point of social? No skill ranks?


It's not a "Skill" rank. The little fancy emblem next to your name is NOT a Skill value. It never has been, that "skill" is something the Community ascribed to it. The "Skill" is the number next to your name in a Ranked playlist. And that value is nonlinear, not intended for everyone to reach level 50 and is primarily used to match you against players.

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Posted by: Agent Diddy
wouldn't this au2 kill double exp weekends?

Pretty much. But it will still add to your bucket at least.

  • 08.01.2008 6:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: odmichael]
So our experience WILL be reset. But not our level?
Your experience gained thus far will remain with you for your Overall Service Record. From AU2 on, each experience point you gain will have a playlist associated with it. Earn enough in one playlist, and you rank up in that playlist.

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No reintroduction of MLG Oddball on Guardian? Awww man. I know, I know it's not Bungie's decision. ( But I still like to blame Shishka)

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Posted by: lukems
Posted by: DreadRex64
I still don't understand. So, what your saying is, you basically gave us 2 ranks for ranked playlists, and a rank for social. Now what I want to know is, why does social need ranks? Wasn't that the whole point of social? No skill ranks?


It's not a "Skill" rank. The little fancy emblem next to your name is NOT a Skill value. It never has been, that "skill" is something the Community ascribed to it. The "Skill" is the number next to your name in a Ranked playlist. And that value is nonlinear, not intended for everyone to reach level 50 and is primarily used to match you against players.
So if you dont have an actually visible Skill Rank in Social, how do you rank up in it? Is a Gunnery Sgnt the Highest possible emblem to achieve?

  • 08.01.2008 6:16 PM PDT
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Will I lose my General or does that stay my overall rank?
I THINK if you have enough EXP in a specific playlist, you will keep your general.

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Clearly someone missed Lukems post that I was wrong :-)

  • 08.01.2008 6:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: odmichael
Lukems, the biggest thing I do not get is how is this going to benefit us players?


It's a refresh on the experience that rewards players both for playing their favorite playlists and exploring Matchmaking in general. What's not to get?

  • 08.01.2008 6:17 PM PDT

FINALLY!!!!!!!! A ranking system that actually makes sense. THANK YOU BUNGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lol Luke is getting giddy. Also I'm intrested in this new MM rank system.

  • 08.01.2008 6:18 PM PDT

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So Lukems, if I was a general in Lone Wolves, and ONLY Lone Wolves, what would show up next to my name in a theatre lobby?

(Please tell me if I'm understanding this ALL wrong.)

And:wouldn't this au2 kill double exp weekends?


[Edited on 08.01.2008 6:20 PM PDT]

  • 08.01.2008 6:18 PM PDT

What would happen if you quit a game after AU2?

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Actually, we'll still be matching by Skill value the same way we have all along. At the playlist level, you'll still be matched against similarly skilled players, we're not resetting those numbers. We're adding a new metric for you to track your progress in a given playlist. If you're a 44 in Ranked Team Slayer, you'll still be a 44 and your 44 will still display. You will just be a level 44 Recruit in Team Slayer. After a whole bunch of games you may be a 44 General in Team Slayer.

Rank at the Playlist level is no longer contingent on the numerical "skill" value (the one to fifty). But Rank is still being used to determine who you will face because we want the matches to be as fair as possible.

Okay, now that I understand it, I like it.

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Good update this week, certainly better than last week's.

  • 08.01.2008 6:19 PM PDT