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well this is my first time writing on the news deely to u guys but ummm i have a few questions. first is the sword cancelling only going to be for live or will i still be able to to it on system links or split screen? Also can u draw me a spiffy masterchief so i can have it as my avatar. draw him in like a suit with a magnum or sumthin that would be real kool. thanks for reading(that is asuming you do read it)

  • 03.06.2005 4:59 PM PDT
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Hey Guys; I think you are doing an amazing job with keeping things rolling along, and most certainly with fixing some of the glitches. Honestly though, I pose a question: do you think it would be advantageous to eliminate some of the glitches that make Halo 2 such an awesome game to delve to its depths? For example--the Rocket/Sword glitch which as we all know is an amazing tool to use to explore nooks and crannies in all of the levels to see how high you can go past Banshee ability, etc. While it may seem practical to eliminate it for say, explotive purposes, would it really eliminate any real "cheating?" Personally, it is really just a tool for fans of the game to really explore and appreciate the detail that you guys put into each blade of grass and bit of rubble on top of a building. I know I have spent many an hour taking my "noob" buddies on top of the cranes in Headlong, and I love getting to stand on them, and look down upon the city with the lights off and my home theatre system cranked. It feels so life-like. Don't even get me started on the fun of jumping DOWN from there. At any rate....I also beg the question. Some of these glitches, for example, the mythical flag bounce on Colossus (which takes skill to perfect) are not really as horrible as one might assume. Take a look at the other side of this arguement. If someone knows how to do it....doesn't it show that they have taken the time and effort to study the maps to their advantage? Why penalize their studious efforts and attention to your craftsmanship by "fixing it"? I mean, honestly, anyone can do it if they spend the time to learn how....and trust me, you can walk into any team training room and just ask your teammates or the opposing team (AFTER they soundly defeat you with it), and most everyone will teach you how. It encourages players to exchange information. And by the by, just because you bounce that flag doesn't mean you're going to score. There are numerous tactical steps you could take to advert it, or even intercept the strategy.

At any rate, before I ramble any further, please consider the voice of the people in which "glitches" are really all that harmful. Some of them are--i.e, the Elite dummy glitch which EVERYONE loathes with a passion--(Multi Flag CTF games on Coagulation haven't been the same--however, ARE quite a problem.) I honestly cannot say with any honesty that it takes ANY skill to perform it. Ok, you have to learn how to hit the buttons at the right time, and all that crap, but let's face it, it's an INSTANTANEOUS action with nigh no measures to counter. I really think I speak for all of us HONEST gamers out there (emphasis on the HONEST part)--when I say that the "Dummy" glitch isn't a strategic boon--it's a exploitive nightmare. ----As for the grabbing flags through walls--that one can go either way--personally, I'm neutral on that one.

In short (I know, I know--too late), please before any real action is taken, consider what I've said on behalf of my fellow XBox Livers...and if it isn't too much trouble to post this somehow, somewhere, please do so so that other gamers will get to see another perspective on this issue. Thanks a bunch guys--you're doing a smashing job. If you think I'm just blowing smoke, let me close by saying.....since my account was activated back in December, I have purchased 3 other XBox titles, one of which is the much awaited KOTOR 2. I haven't touched ANY of them yet because my attention is STILL focused on Halo 2. Keep it up. Cheers.

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  • 03.06.2005 5:10 PM PDT
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Thank you for all your work on fixing the glitches. I remember how pissed I was when someone took the flag through the floor for the first time. I

know you guys have a lot on your plate but could you add something to the feedback system. Namely, I'd like to see [BLAMING] teamkiller added. Mostly in teamtraining I have seen people killing their own teammates on purpose and for no reason. I'd like to be able to keep them from being randomly added to my team during matchmaking.

PS are the sword tricks really that much of a problem in ranked games. I think they are fun.

  • 03.06.2005 5:43 PM PDT
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PLEASE FRANKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEEEEPPPPP SWWWOOOOORRRDDD LLLLUNNNNGGINNG! ANNDDD ROCCKET/SWORD FLYING! Bungie! can't you hear the people? fans want to keep sword flying. Thats all i am asking PLEASE!

  • 03.06.2005 5:50 PM PDT
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why would you want to keep sword glitching on?? It doesnt help you in matchmade games.
custom games it just gives you someting to do. I have never seen a guy in a matchmade game use the sword cancel its just pointless. Sure it might be fun for a while ,but i just dont see the use in sticking with it.

  • 03.06.2005 6:03 PM PDT
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Is the downloadable content going to come out before the end of March, and beside the new maps, are you going to add any new weapons or vehicles. How are you guys planning on fixing standby and secondary. Plus i think you should change matchmaking 4x4 and make it 5x5 and you should also add 2x2 because sometimes when i come on in the morning and only 1 friend is on i have to wait till someone else comes online so we could play. You should come out with the content soon because alot of people are getting mad and tired of waiting.

  • 03.06.2005 6:24 PM PDT
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o plz plz plz dont get rid of sword flying on custom games plz! me and my friends need it cuz were gonna make vids and stuff of tricks we do and s flying is half of it

  • 03.06.2005 6:37 PM PDT
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wdf why did u make it impossible to aim with plasma rifle in halo2?? in halo id be able to have deadly accuracy from across blud gultch. now i cant even hit straight from close up...

  • 03.06.2005 7:15 PM PDT
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i agree man

  • 03.06.2005 7:21 PM PDT
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dude well said i agree with you you totally, its good to know people out that appreciate the game and take a stand to this ****.

  • 03.06.2005 7:28 PM PDT
Subject: Bungie Weekly What's Update

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Ah, Thank God. It drives my absolutly insaine when some idiot goes on standby and is just sitting there floating and by the time I relize he cannot be killed I get massacred by the opposing team. Haha, well I hope you all figure everything out. Good work,
- James

  • 03.06.2005 7:45 PM PDT
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Hey frankie, i sent you a few questions? how do i get you to respond to them? They were much better questions then the ones you posted on, they actually pertain to issues in the game as of now!

  • 03.06.2005 7:57 PM PDT
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Keep Sword Cancelling. IT adds hours upon hours of replay time to Halo 2. You took away grenade and warthog jumping. DOn't take away Sword cancelling. Anyways, the sword tricks are highly ineffective for killing people. We just use it to explore maps and such. It's too fun to take out .pretty please.

  • 03.06.2005 8:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: metkiller joe
You guys are fixing glitches!!!!! that is no fun can't you just leave to glitches to the custom games and obolish them in matchmaking..... that's one of the only fun things us gamers do!!!!!! We have variants called 'Glitches'!!!!!!! we love them. it's the only way we get to go outside the 'barrier' on levels..... if ur gonna fix cheating then at least make it possible for us gamers to go on top of levels..... get rid of the barriers.... the are no fun!!!!!! except with glitches.... please don't fix em:)


People, if you are going to post in these forums, lets try not to slaughter the english language. Obolish? Invisable? and that was just the spelling. these posts are on page 11. Lets try to pass third grade grammar before we write on the big boy's forums.

  • 03.06.2005 8:29 PM PDT
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yeah dude its about time....me and my friends were wondering why it was taking so long because they knew about the cheats and glitches months ago. i guess perfection takes time though. they need to fix the no damage when you shoot someone in the face with the shotgun but kill them instantly when you shoot them in the feet glitch!

  • 03.06.2005 8:43 PM PDT
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When you say sword flying is gone, but you will leave it in one player does that mean no more sword glitching in matchmaking, or no more sword glitching online? If your completely taking sword gliching off line me and a lot of people would be pretty upset. Not to be mean or anything you guys are cool, but glitching is so much fun. I can spend a while up on headlong getting on top of buildings. So please, take it off of matchmaking, but let us do it online!!!!

  • 03.06.2005 9:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lord VeSavious
Hey Guys; I think you are doing an amazing job with keeping things rolling along, and most certainly with fixing some of the glitches. Honestly though, I pose a question: do you think it would be advantageous to eliminate some of the glitches that make Halo 2 such an awesome game to delve to its depths? For example--the Rocket/Sword glitch which as we all know is an amazing tool to use to explore nooks and crannies in all of the levels to see how high you can go past Banshee ability, etc. While it may seem practical to eliminate it for say, explotive purposes, would it really eliminate any real "cheating?" Personally, it is really just a tool for fans of the game to really explore and appreciate the detail that you guys put into each blade of grass and bit of rubble on top of a building. I know I have spent many an hour taking my "noob" buddies on top of the cranes in Headlong, and I love getting to stand on them, and look down upon the city with the lights off and my home theatre system cranked. It feels so life-like. Don't even get me started on the fun of jumping DOWN from there. At any rate....I also beg the question. Some of these glitches, for example, the mythical flag bounce on Colossus (which takes skill to perfect) are not really as horrible as one might assume. Take a look at the other side of this arguement. If someone knows how to do it....doesn't it show that they have taken the time and effort to study the maps to their advantage? Why penalize their studious efforts and attention to your craftsmanship by "fixing it"? I mean, honestly, anyone can do it if they spend the time to learn how....and trust me, you can walk into any team training room and just ask your teammates or the opposing team (AFTER they soundly defeat you with it), and most everyone will teach you how. It encourages players to exchange information. And by the by, just because you bounce that flag doesn't mean you're going to score. There are numerous tactical steps you could take to advert it, or even intercept the strategy.

At any rate, before I ramble any further, please consider the voice of the people in which "glitches" are really all that harmful. Some of them are--i.e, the Elite dummy glitch which EVERYONE loathes with a passion--(Multi Flag CTF games on Coagulation haven't been the same--however, ARE quite a problem.) I honestly cannot say with any honesty that it takes ANY skill to perform it. Ok, you have to learn how to hit the buttons at the right time, and all that crap, but let's face it, it's an INSTANTANEOUS action with nigh no measures to counter. I really think I speak for all of us HONEST gamers out there (emphasis on the HONEST part)--when I say that the "Dummy" glitch isn't a strategic boon--it's a exploitive nightmare. ----As for the grabbing flags through walls--that one can go either way--personally, I'm neutral on that one.

In short (I know, I know--too late), please before any real action is taken, consider what I've said on behalf of my fellow XBox Livers...and if it isn't too much trouble to post this somehow, somewhere, please do so so that other gamers will get to see another perspective on this issue. Thanks a bunch guys--you're doing a smashing job. If you think I'm just blowing smoke, let me close by saying.....since my account was activated back in December, I have purchased 3 other XBox titles, one of which is the much awaited KOTOR 2. I haven't touched ANY of them yet because my attention is STILL focused on Halo 2. Keep it up. Cheers.

--Donnie, A.K.A gamertag--Lord VeSavious




I completely agree with this and I am sure a lot of other people do too.

  • 03.06.2005 9:05 PM PDT
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I don't know how bungie is going to make standby cheaters less rewarding

  • 03.06.2005 9:07 PM PDT
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lol that is one ugle 45 pound cat, does chief ever feed it?

  • 03.06.2005 11:08 PM PDT
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well I hope these "Solutions" to the gliches and such work cause I am getting tired of them (well most of them...) and I hope the DLC is good too. What is up with the cat...looks like it sniffed one too many batches of catnip.....talk about an addict.

  • 03.07.2005 12:06 AM PDT
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ok im new to bungie.net but i am not new to the sword cancel..bungie i really do NOT think you should get rid of sword cancel or rocket lunge or sniper lunge...youd be killing the game a little inside...yea um...please dont get rid of those awesome glitches....please get rid of dummy glitching omg i hate that one!!! and good job on the standby thing...ive had that done to me too many times now...but only once have i had a rocket lunge done to me on matchmaking ONLY because i wasnt even playing i was just seeing how many people would waste ammo on a motionless guy....alot of people wasted it lol...but anyway...rocket glitch is impossible to do if the person is moving...and sword cancel doesnt do crap on matchmaking....why sword cancel when you can slash?? i mean come on! half the time youd go flying away from them and it would be THEIR fault..dont you see bungie?? you dont have to get rid of all the glitches...their what make the game fun =)...playing is alot of fun to..but i like to sit back, relax, and just have fun...wouldnt you agree? and i dont know exactly WHY youd be getting rid of the no weapons glitch..unless of course because you can move all 3 oddballs at one time...now i see why lol...um yea...dont get rid of the cooooool glitches...just the major CHEATS...theres a difference between glitches and cheats...cheats are horrible horrible things...glitches are very very fun and not horrible at all! im just a little irritated that after i master the rocket lunge and sword cancel you guys would get rid of it...i only use it between me and my friends....couldnt you like...make it to where theres an option in custom games? like sword lunge:on sword lunge:off....and rocket lunge:on etc....thats the only two glitches i really want...and another idea! grenade launching is a favorite past time of some people right? not me i never could figure it out....but you think you guys could make an option for that?you dont have to..that was just a little suggestion...i agree with most of the people here who want these fun little glitches to stay...is it that these glitches are gonna interfere with the new maps? i just want my sword and rocket lunge to stay...*tear*...could you bungie guys respond to me please? i really want to know whats goin on with this glitch dilemma...im trying not to be rude in any way to you guys cause i realise how good of a game you guys want this to be..i respect you guys because of all your work...you guys are wonderful! but wouldnt taking out the sword and rocket lunges just be more work?? if any part of this message is rude...i truly apologize...im just trying to keep the things most people love...so could you guys just...keep the sword cancel techniques? please?? and i really hope you guys read this message cause i put alot of effort into it...i truly hope the glitches stay...and the cheats go..thank you for your time!

  • 03.07.2005 1:18 AM PDT
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Frankly, Im a little upset about the fact of how hard their cracking down on cheats and glitches. I never use the cheats or glitches in a real on line game but i do like to get on a custom game with my friends and just have fun with the glitches. Personally I think they should just get rid of the cheating and such in matchmaking only if possible. I do hate standby though. Ill be happy when that is gone.

  • 03.07.2005 5:55 AM PDT
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How do I vote to keep the sword glitch.

  • 03.07.2005 6:24 AM PDT
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C'mon... lets get some good info on some downloadable content. But thanx for the new stuff frankie.

  • 03.07.2005 7:19 AM PDT
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wow... u need to keep things like Flag bouncing in Colossus... was a legit strategy that both teams could do and was cool looking too...

  • 03.07.2005 7:29 AM PDT