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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Posted by: Halofan91
Wait a minute. I just thought of this. 343GS can just follow the longsword back to earth. Duh! Because the longsword can't enter slipspace. Can it? But if they can't MC and 343GS will have a long way back home.


Some Longswords can, some can't. Depending on what class they are some of them have slipspace capabiltiy. But, did you read First Strike? MC did not use the Longsword to return to Earth, he and Halo survivors on a Pelican boarded a Covenant ship and used that.

The idea that he hijacked a ship is possible, and the Covenant, (if they captured him), may want to try and study him since he was created by 'thier gods'. So... there's a dozen ways on how he could have gotten to another ring.

Achilles


But, if you watch one of the official game trailers for Halo 2, it shows MC jumping onto a Covenant ship from his Longsword. In the background, you can see Earth, meaning they are not very far from Earth when they board the Covie's ship.

So, either 343 GS and MC had a VERY long trip, the Longsword IS able to jump into slip space and GS got left in the dust, or the Longsword jumped and GS found some other way to get to Earth (I'm going with the latter).


This is just a theory, I did not read the books so I don't know if it would even work....

[Edited on 6/29/2004 4:30:05 PM]

  • 06.29.2004 4:28 PM PDT
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Can somebody tell me what the hell a longsword is. I havn't read First Strike and the ship at the end of Halo 1 is a Maw fighter.

  • 06.29.2004 7:24 PM PDT
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He'll be in the second and still be a pain in the ass.

[Edited on 6/29/2004 7:26:44 PM]

  • 06.29.2004 7:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: aballa14
Can somebody tell me what the hell a longsword is. I havn't read First Strike and the ship at the end of Halo 1 is a Maw fighter.


Its not a maw fighter its a longsword fighter you retard

  • 06.29.2004 7:31 PM PDT
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dude in the video of him jumping through space onto a covenant ship....... he didnt jump out of a longsword he jumped out of a human space ship.

  • 06.29.2004 7:38 PM PDT
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have u read first strike?

  • 06.29.2004 7:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: General Steve
My theory is at the end Halo in the Maw you see 343 flying around, I think he is actually gathering information of the humans. Since he has information on the humans he gave the Covenant this for some reason, and that is how Halo2 started. That's only my idea, i could be wrong though.

That was my theory too!!!

  • 06.29.2004 7:41 PM PDT
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thats the fakest halo 2 cover i've ever seen

  • 06.29.2004 7:43 PM PDT
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It is fake but 343GS will be in Halo 2.

  • 06.29.2004 8:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: spartan 68
Posted by: aballa14
Can somebody tell me what the hell a longsword is. I havn't read First Strike and the ship at the end of Halo 1 is a Maw fighter.


Its not a maw fighter its a longsword fighter you retard


Well sorry, the name of the last level was The Maw and I heard cortana say theres a MAW class fighter in some launch bay(like 500 times). You know right after the pelican you were waiting for gets shot down by two banshees.

  • 06.29.2004 8:54 PM PDT
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maybe 343 made a deal with the covenant that if the covenant would help 343 get the index he will show them the way to earth

  • 06.29.2004 9:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: bentfishy
dude in the video of him jumping through space onto a covenant ship....... he didnt jump out of a longsword he jumped out of a human space ship.


What video are you talking about I dont remember seeing anything after MC and Cortana got away from halo and before Halo 2.

  • 06.29.2004 9:21 PM PDT
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yeah i dont think they actually ever SHOW the ship that MC is jumping out of (from the outside i mean), so you cant really know that it is a longsword or whatever, it could be something else, you just cant tell, unless i missed something..............

  • 06.29.2004 9:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nightshade000
yeah i dont think they actually ever SHOW the ship that MC is jumping out of (from the outside i mean), so you cant really know that it is a longsword or whatever, it could be something else, you just cant tell, unless i missed something..............


Exactally all I know is that it is a human ship. A pretty big one at that and it has its own hanger thats what MC jumps out of. If you go to concept art for halo 2 it will show a picture of the hanger hand drawn.

And I assume that the longsword is a human vehicle.

[Edited on 6/29/2004 9:30:56 PM]

  • 06.29.2004 9:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: aballa14
Posted by: Nightshade000
yeah i dont think they actually ever SHOW the ship that MC is jumping out of (from the outside i mean), so you cant really know that it is a longsword or whatever, it could be something else, you just cant tell, unless i missed something..............


Exactally all I know is that it is a human ship. A pretty big one at that and it has its own hanger thats what MC jumps out of. If you go to concept art for halo 2 it will show a picture of the hanger hand drawn.

And I assume that the longsword is a human vehicle.


Ok, for one... whoever said that Cortana said it was a Maw fighter... I suggest you replay the last level and listen to her. She says "Longsword fighter" It like our big fighter/bomber planes than can go in out of atmosphere's. The Longsword is a human ship, not vehicle. Also, it is NOT the Longsword he jumps out of... there is NO WAY that the Longsword is that big to have a hanger like that... the ship he jumps from is the UNSC Crusier, (or Destoryer can't remember which), Gettysburg that they sorta partially reparin in First Strike.

Achilles

  • 06.29.2004 10:31 PM PDT
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Didn't MC go down an elavator in the ship on the video if so you are right Achilles.

  • 06.30.2004 6:12 AM PDT
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yes it does
Posted by: Halofan91
Bungie definetly made 343 GS and MC in the picture. And it doesn't look like crap.

  • 06.30.2004 6:53 AM PDT
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Not really but I admit it is fake.

  • 06.30.2004 7:15 AM PDT
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Well I guess it's now very very very very obvious that 343 GS will be in halo 2.

  • 06.30.2004 7:38 AM PDT
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i do -blam!- who ever is interested is also an idiot like you, you fuking fruit that means those people didn't watch the end so you and those other -blam!-s can kiss the fatest part of my a$$ you little fuking peni$ muongroule because that means your not true halo fans you dirty screen looking -blam!- resisting son of a bit<h

  • 06.30.2004 9:45 AM PDT
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er..yeah.

We are all assuming that 343GS will be on/near an Earth level. As only some of the game takes place here(..there) isn't it possible then that GS will be on another level based somewhere else?

my point being that he may not have to get to Earth, in transport or by FtL travel.

  • 06.30.2004 10:08 AM PDT
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There are several points here. First that is a longsword he gets in at the end of the maw. second bungie has done everything but come out and say 343 gs will be in the next game. so he will be there. They are not telling any of he plot in case you have'nt noticed so they will never say for sure. Third MC jumps out of a UNSC ship in the E3 2003 trailer it is way too big to be a longsword and on top of that as has allready been pointed out the particular longsword they took at the end of the Maw did not have a fujiwaka slipspace drive so their is no way it could have gotten to earth in time. Fourth if you read the books you know that the Mc and Cortana took control of two ships one covenant and one UNSC so this further backs up the third point. If I missed anything let me Know.
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Oh yeah as far as how GS gets to earth no one really knows but my bet is he picked up a ride from a covenant cruiser I imagine he radioed them and told them he had Info if they would give him a ride but like I said that is just speculation.
The Duke

[Edited on 6/30/2004 10:30:35 AM]

  • 06.30.2004 10:28 AM PDT
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Ok y'all, this discussion is intriguiging yet I'm constantly flinching at the lack of knowledge you people who actually have lives espouse onto this forum. First of all, only Lonswords stripped of their bomb bays and most of their aero dynamic features have the Slipspace drive.

*Spoiler*
In First strike, MC and cortana dock the Longsword fighter to a Pelican transport carrying our beloved Sgt. Thompson (?) or is it Johnson? Anyhow, then they capture a huge ass Covie cruiser by the name of the Ascendant Justice and jump to Reach, where they find the Gettysburg - a UNSC frigate that was mostly destroyed.

Again, they dock the Covie cruiser to the Gettysburg and jump to the pirate place and then to the place where that Unyeilding Heirophant is (the order may be off, correct me if I'm wrong). An admiral who was on the Gettysburg took charge of the Unyeilding Heirophant and jumped to Earth, but then he came back.

After a mission rigging up the Heirophant to explode and take out all the 300 or so Covie ships using the pelican. They ran to the Ascendant Justice just in time to see the Admiral breaking it free from the Gettysburg. All the Spartans got into the Gettysburg and the Admiral rammed the Ascendant Justice into the Unyeilding Heirophant to make all the covie ships come close together. They finally jumped to Earth in the Gettysburg.

Now, Bungie said, I believe, that that first scene with him jumping out of the frigate onto the Covie ship had nothing to do with the story. It was just a teaser. So there you have it. I just labeled myself an idle loser.

Praise me.

  • 06.30.2004 10:58 AM PDT
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its been confirmed that 343 GS is back him and the flood for god sakes ppl.

  • 06.30.2004 11:02 AM PDT
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[color=gold] You people need to understand something. Bungie knows how to make a plot. Just because 343 AND cove are our enemies DOES NOT MEAN THEY WORK TOGETHER !!!

GEEZ!!! WTF!!!

343 knows way more about humans then cove, infact when 343 first encountered cove he called them alien species or alien race, he didn't have a name for them. 343 IS NOT CRAZY. Throught the Halo game, he is constantly on point and doing what he believes is his programmed job.

If you really want to know the truth then you need to base your ideas on FACTS and things you KNOW like Mr. terra
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[Edited on 6/30/2004 11:18:24 AM]

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