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BUNGIE HAS CUT CUSTOM SINGLE-PLAYER SUPPORT FROM HALO 2 VISTA. COPY, PASTE, AND BOLDFACE THIS INTO YOUR SIGNATURE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS CUT.
Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: JacobGRocks
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The only reason that happened was becasue msgs hasnt supported it.
Look at Halo 1 pc, it was hacked and crashed 24/7, but a patch came out and now it is one of the most popular PC FPS'es.
Microsoft hasn't supported Halo 1 PC for a longtime either. The reason why Halo 1 PC is so popular is because it is so easy to hack. Hacking has gotten out of control in Halo 1 PC. That's why Microsoft gave up on it and stopped releasing patches and just gave out Halo: Custom Edition to satisfy all those modders and hackers.
You realize that CE was meant to satisfy "true" modders and content creators, and not hackers/script kiddie/mod kiddie cheaters? As well as it was released around the time of Halo v1.03, where it was still in full support by MGS and Gearbox? There's a small security measure that was added to CE that checks your version of the map against the server's version, and if the two maps aren't the same despite having the same file name, your connection is refused. Not to mention Halo PC and CE's network coding is almost entirely server sided, inadvertently adding in a hell of a lot of cheat/hack/trainer prevention at the cost of needing to lead your shots if you're off-host.
I'd personally like to thank the consoletards for making the word "modder" sound negative; cheating and breathing new life into a game engine are two entirely different things.
Posted by: General Heed
Now the Xbox version of Halo 1, despite being over 8 years old has not acquired a single patch at all and modding and hacking is still very limited in Halo 1 on the Xbox. But since Halo 1 didn't have any Xbox Live multiplayer, an online patch was impossible unless Microsoft released a separate disc that included the patch like they did with the Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack. Halo 2 on the Xbox for some reason had a lot of hacking problems and 5 patches had to be released which is quite a lot for a console game. Halo 3 only had 2 patches as well.
The point is that no matter how many patches you release on the PC, the game will always be hackable.
Anything and everything electronic and code that connects to the internet in some way is going to be hackable. If someone is interested enough, they will look for ways to alter the game. If they're benevolent enough, they'll tell the developers what's up (and release full-disclosure if the devs are lazy/have no sense of priority). If they're malicious enough, they'll keep all the info to themselves and just wreck the -Blam!- out of everything until the coders somehow figure out how the game is breaking.
And despite your mentality, it sure doesn't stop Valve from keeping on top of Half-Life 2/Counter-Strike/Team Fortress 2/Left 4 Dead/etc etc game updates. Why? Because they know that if they continue supporting their games and fixing problems and quirks found by interested players, they will keep said players interested and will get them to purchase their future products. In that respect, MGS's immature decision to just drop support for Halo 2 Vista leaves me with the mentality that they're just going to do the same thing to H3PC when it comes out: do it wrong, and then run the -Blam!- away when their customers point out all of the issues, so I'm probably not going to just run out and buy the game if it comes out until I hear that the game is stable on release with few issues, and that the first batch of problems that arise are fixed in a timely manner.
Posted by: General Heed
True... but it won't be long until Windows Vista ends up like Windows XP. By the time a Halo 3 PC is made, if it is made, Windows Vista would probably be like Windows XP today. Obsolete and almost unsupported. Soon to be fully discontinued. Uh, you realize XP is still being fully supported due to widespread use? Windows 2000 deserves that title more than XP and I still see updates appearing on it periodically (my video capture PC runs 2k for the sake of performance). Microsoft only attempted to drop support on XP outright to force everyone onto Vista, and the public outcry was too loud, so they stopped.
Vista is this generation's Windows ME.