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Subject: The Tru7h: More Spartans in Halo 2 than Master Chief! (Ackerson)
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Oh Yeah, on another note im lost as s*** on some stuff becuz i dont read that much. Wtf is it about these Prophets? Whats their main function with the Covies? Are they more or less leaders of the armies?

  • 07.01.2004 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: MC_88
First i have to say kick a** on the theory. I never read the books mainly becuz im not a fan of books, so i cant speculate on any of that. But i have to admit, it would be pretty sweet to see more spartans out there in the battle against the Covie bastards. I dont know about you guys but being Master Cheif (John) and being the only one in the world like yourself its got to lonely. So basically off the sobby crap, i hope there are more to join the fight and help open a can on the Covies.


Yeah, also bungie said that we are "taking the battle to the covenant", that sounds impossible to a one man army to acomplish, don't you think?, but if ya got a platoon of spartans that would be easier. also cooler. Imagine an army of spartans wiping covie asses in their own world, that would rock the house. so yeah, hehehe.

Peace!.

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  • 07.01.2004 2:18 PM PDT

I'm alone, where is my microphone.

What would be awesome, is the impletation of the flood and the Spartans. Say, one of those little critters got in the suit. (Yes, almost impossible.) But when they did they turned the [color=red]Spartans[/color] into the flood like they did the Marines. If you remember 343 Guilty Spark, when the Marine was shooting at you while he was laying down. Was that a clue that they could actually be Turned. Yes, he may have been brain washed from seeing the killings, but you never know.

Now the last level, your heading down to blow up the last Covie Buidling/Structure thing. You get cornered, you sigh a happy sigh when you see your fellow comrades surrounding you, when they start shooting. You don't shoot back only because you think it's a game, but then your shield get's lower and lower. You pull out your gun, when more and more arrive. Imagine that!!!

  • 07.01.2004 2:32 PM PDT
Subject: The Tru7h : More Spartans in Halo 2 than Master Chief! (Ackerson)

Posted by: SketchFactor
Sorry to burst any bubbles but I can add some insight into the render of which you speak. I added that render to the site and I added the caption. We never refer to the characters in a multiplayer game as "Master Chief." It's always been Spartans vs. Elites as there is only one Chief. In this case, it's just a harmless caption that is in no way meant to imply the existence or non-existence of anything. =)


[color=limegreen]Question... this is a render, not a screenshot from MP? I thought renders were computer built models of a specific character, not a generic Spartan with a million possible color schemes from a MP game. If this render is from MP, then why is it's quality the same as that of the Master Chief renders, which, I'm presuming from your statement, are taken from the campaign mode engine. We know that the graphics engine is of less quality in MP, why the same quality in this render as the Campaign mode engine. Sorry if I'm digging a hole out of air here, but the white Spartan render looks exactly the same, quality wise, as the Master Chief renders.[/color]

[Edited on 7/1/2004 3:24:22 PM]

  • 07.01.2004 2:34 PM PDT
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yeah, that's true, that render haves a very high quality.

I got a question too, since i haven't read First strike i was wondering this, does the Spartan girls have a diferent kind of armor?, or it is a standard model?.

  • 07.01.2004 2:44 PM PDT

It's the same standard issue armor.

  • 07.01.2004 3:22 PM PDT
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In the vid for a level in campain the cheif was by this guy who called for reinforcements he says: "I called for reenforcements..but i didnt think theyed send a spartan" he said sparten not chief or master chief so im conviniced there is more then one spartan remaining

  • 07.01.2004 3:46 PM PDT
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No Spartan has ever "died". It's propoganda. Any Spartan that does die is listed as MIA in case the file is ever leaked to the public.

Spartans are invincible as far as the rest of the UNSC is concerned. Plus, that marine may not have known about the fall of Reach. As far as he knows, all the Spartans still exist.

  • 07.01.2004 3:52 PM PDT

Posted by: weaver
In the vid for a level in campain the cheif was by this guy who called for reinforcements he says: "I called for reenforcements..but i didnt think theyed send a spartan" he said sparten not chief or master chief so im conviniced there is more then one spartan remaining


Good point, I didn't really think of that:)

  • 07.01.2004 6:09 PM PDT
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As far as he knows all the Spartans are still alive so that's no real surprise.

  • 07.01.2004 6:11 PM PDT
Subject: The Tru7h: More Spartans in Halo 2 than Master Chief! (Ackerson)
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I mostly agree with everything you wrote (about Ackerson, etc.) cause I too read the books. I am currnetly reading First Strike (3rd installment) which may give us more clues. So far I am at the point where the MC is visiting Reach to find his past fellow SPARTANs... maybe this will give us more clues (i'll post if I can find info). I think that Kelley and the other SPARTANs will have the smae armor as they did so if that is a campain mode pic of my white MC/SPARTAN emblem to the left... then it must be Ackerson's new project. But I dont belive that that pic is of campain anyway.. it might be picof MP. Even though your theroy about the HI Res qualitry of this so said "MP Pic" compared to others is extrmely correct... MP SPARTANS/MCs are not called MCs like you stated.. in the E3 2004 multiplayer preview of Zanzibar level and new ubdates... one of the hosts in the beginning refered to the MC or SPARTAN ... AS a SPARTAN w/ fully customizable appearences (I.E colors, emblems, etc.)

SO...

Even though the new SPARTANS from Ackersons project and old SPARTANS from the Reach attack will have 96.5846579857893% of being in the game... that pic of the white SPARTAN .. dual weilding is not a campain mode pic .. but a MP one with a customizable SPARTAN.


(And even THIS point makes no sense whatsover.. there can be only one MC/John not multiple ones in MP... that like saying m,ultiple Zanze/Elites in MP)


We should tlak more about the game .. this ias very interesting

  • 07.01.2004 6:43 PM PDT

Posted by:Spartan55555
(And even THIS point makes no sense whatsover.. there can be only one MC/John not multiple ones in MP... that like saying m,ultiple Zanze/Elites in MP)



This is the point I was trying to make to Sketch earlier in the discussion. If the MP mode is to be related, in some form of another, to the campaign mode, then shouldn't there be some tie in explanation ( storyline wise ) as to why there are Spartans other than the MC in the MP mode.

[Edited on 7/2/2004 12:59:05 AM]

  • 07.01.2004 7:12 PM PDT
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Just a thought here. In First Strike, one of the Spartans (Fred, if Im not mistaken) got a new improved motion tracker installed - but in the new screenshots (where I suppose you wear a Mark VI), the range is still 15 m. Doesn't this mean that the parts found on reach wasn't Mark VI parts?

  • 07.02.2004 10:20 AM PDT

I have no clue. I don't remember if it said this, or not, but did it mention the new motion tracker having a range longer than 15m? I'll have to look that up myself.

  • 07.02.2004 10:25 AM PDT

Which screenshot shows the HUD or motion tracker?

[Edited on 7/2/2004 10:26:59 AM]

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man i dont think that ackerson made any new spartans because bungie dosent excpect everyone to read the books and halo 1 didnt even mention him so i think your probily wrong about that part but i think the spartans that are still alive may come in to play in halo 2...

  • 07.02.2004 10:31 AM PDT
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http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=58258150&replies= 76&ui=cb_post_02
What else could possible be the difference.. Color? :)

  • 07.02.2004 10:33 AM PDT
Subject: The Tru7h : More Spartans in Halo 2 than Master Chief! (Ackerson)
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Posted by: SketchFactor
Sorry to burst any bubbles but I can add some insight into the render of which you speak. I added that render to the site and I added the caption. We never refer to the characters in a multiplayer game as "Master Chief." It's always been Spartans vs. Elites as there is only one Chief. In this case, it's just a harmless caption that is in no way meant to imply the existence or non-existence of anything. =)


[color=limegreen]Question... this is a render, not a screenshot from MP? I thought renders were computer built models of a specific character, not a generic Spartan with a million possible color schemes from a MP game. If this render is from MP, then why is it's quality the same as that of the Master Chief renders, which, I'm presuming from your statement, are taken from the campaign mode engine. We know that the graphics engine is of less quality in MP, why the same quality in this render as the Campaign mode engine. Sorry if I'm digging a hole out of air here, but the white Spartan render looks exactly the same, quality wise, as the Master Chief renders.[/color]
ah first lick your wounds then come with a nice com back how can you argue with the guy who POSTED the pic man you need to know when to fold the cards.

  • 07.02.2004 10:37 AM PDT
Subject: The Tru7h: More Spartans in Halo 2 than Master Chief! (Ackerson)
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Posted by: zirap
http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=58258150&replies= 76&ui=cb_ post_02
What else could possible be the difference.. Color? :)
Your my hero!!! thanks for those pics!

  • 07.02.2004 10:41 AM PDT
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And the blue is their because you get to pick 2 colors in MP!

  • 07.02.2004 10:42 AM PDT
Subject: The Tru7h : More Spartans in Halo 2 than Master Chief! (Ackerson)

O.K. Hell_Jumper.. you obviously didn't see the post were I admitted that Sketch had me:)

I added those comments because Sketch said that they refered to characters in a MP game as Spartans. [color=green]This is a render, not a screenshot from MP.[/color] Secondly, Bungie is always talking about the fact that they don't mess with the screens to make them look better than they really are, which I believe. So, my main question wasn't why is Bungie lieing to us... it was more of a, why does a render taken from a MP game engine have the same quality as the MC renders taken from the Campaign engine?

[Edited on 7/2/2004 10:45:02 AM]

  • 07.02.2004 10:44 AM PDT
Subject: The Tru7h: More Spartans in Halo 2 than Master Chief! (Ackerson)
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Posted by: Hell_Jumper
Your my hero!!! thanks for those pics!

Any time. I got quite surprised about the find myself :)

Purple hud! That totally rock!

  • 07.02.2004 10:48 AM PDT

Posted by: Hell_Jumper
man i dont think that ackerson made any new spartans because bungie dosent excpect everyone to read the books and halo 1 didnt even mention him so i think your probily wrong about that part but i think the spartans that are still alive may come in to play in halo 2...


This isn't a good reason to exclude the possiblity of Ackerson's secret plans. You say that I'm off for not admitting my defeat, which I did, while you ignore facts from the books. Look at the quotes man... he has a secret program that has something to do with the Spartans:)

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  • 07.02.2004 10:49 AM PDT
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they didn't get new armor. It said in FS that they just picked up a couple of upgrades back at Reach when they were with Halsey.

Oh, and the Spartan who was frozen during Halo was Linda, who was later revived but then died at Unyielding Hierophant. She was the sniper specialist, an "artist with the sniper rifle"

  • 07.02.2004 10:54 AM PDT
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I dont think Ackerson has anything to do with spartans. He probably wants to augment every marine out there... Or not.
The spartan program was started to prevent a war between humans = battles on the ground.
If Ackerson had some brains, he would concentrate in ship to ship combat to fight the Covenant, not an army that would get blown to pieces from orbiting battleships.

  • 07.02.2004 11:02 AM PDT

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