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Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Well, that is a scripted response... cause in theory... you ARE NOT supposed to shoot him. Just like you're not supposed to kill the marines... yet people do anyway. The reason he says that it is a rough way or a different form of saying... "Stop being an idiot." Humans are idiots when you boil us down to the core. Evnious, Prideful, Lustful, etc. And so he is saying not to be that way... "Don't be an idoit and try to shoot me. I can't die." Also... what is your comment to the almost landfill amount of evidence supporting Human=Forerunner theory? Are you saying that is all now irrelevant cause of that one quote? Give me a break.

Achilles

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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Well, that is a scripted response... cause in theory... you ARE NOT supposed to shoot him. Just like you're not supposed to kill the marines... yet people do anyway. The reason he says that it is a rough way or a different form of saying... "Stop being an idiot." Humans are idiots when you boil us down to the core. Evnious, Prideful, Lustful, etc. And so he is saying not to be that way... "Don't be an idoit and try to shoot me. I can't die." Also... what is your comment to the almost landfill amount of evidence supporting Human=Forerunner theory? Are you saying that is all now irrelevant cause of that one quote? Give me a break.

Achilles
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343 GS has never MET humans. How could he use the term like that?!?!? And I still beleive that Humans AREN'T the Forerunner.

  • 06.30.2004 11:30 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
343 GS has never MET humans. How could he use the term like that?!?!? And I still beleive that Humans AREN'T the Forerunner.


You just defeated your own argument. He has never encounterd us right? So why would he use it PERIOD!!! Again... it is a scripted response by Bungie... just like the marines killing you once you TK enough.

Achilles

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Posted by: Covenant Ninja
343 GS has never MET humans. How could he use the term like that?!?!? And I still beleive that Humans AREN'T the Forerunner.
Do you know that for a fact? He also calls Master Chief "The Reclaimer", and says something like "Why are you having trouble doing what you have already done", meaning that there was someone like MC that was there (met 343 Guilty Spark) before.

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Its still possible that the Forerunner are humans, we need more info (wait till Halo 2 comes out, or possibly Halo 3) before we can know for sure.

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Ok. We are Humans. 343 GS knows this becuase he has analyzed our databases from the PoA. So he says "Please stop being Human" becuase he wants MC to be a perfect machine like him.

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Posted by: MTHunter777
Posted by: haloruler33
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
343 GS has never MET humans. How could he use the term like that?!?!? And I still beleive that Humans AREN'T the Forerunner.
Do you know that for a fact? He also calls Master Chief "The Reclaimer", and says something like "Why are you having trouble doing what you have already done", meaning that there was someone like MC that was there (met 343 Guilty Spark) before.


In the book, The Flood, a sargeant was found by MC in the library. MC said he must of been one hardcore marine to make it as far as he did.

343 GS said, "Ah yes, the other reclaimer...", and somthin' about him not having sufficient armor.


William C. Dietz was scared and confused when he wrote that. He was just trying to find some bull-blam!- explanation of the stuff 343 GS says.

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And Bungie wouldn't make the Humans the Forerunner becuase that would directly contradict the teachings of several major religions. And Bungie doesn't do that kind of crap.

  • 06.30.2004 11:39 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Ok. We are Humans. 343 GS knows this becuase he has analyzed our databases from the PoA. So he says "Please stop being Human" becuase he wants MC to be a perfect machine like him.


Right, but you said he said that in "The Library"... he technically never knew about Humans or our history for that matter until "The Maw".

Achilles

  • 06.30.2004 11:39 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
And Bungie wouldn't make the Humans the Forerunner becuase that would directly contradict the teachings of several major religions. And Bungie doesn't do that kind of crap.


That made no sense at all.

Achilles

  • 06.30.2004 11:39 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Posted by: MTHunter777
Posted by: haloruler33
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
343 GS has never MET humans. How could he use the term like that?!?!? And I still beleive that Humans AREN'T the Forerunner.
Do you know that for a fact? He also calls Master Chief "The Reclaimer", and says something like "Why are you having trouble doing what you have already done", meaning that there was someone like MC that was there (met 343 Guilty Spark) before.


In the book, The Flood, a sargeant was found by MC in the library. MC said he must of been one hardcore marine to make it as far as he did.

343 GS said, "Ah yes, the other reclaimer...", and somthin' about him not having sufficient armor.


William C. Dietz was scared and confused when he wrote that. He was just trying to find some bull-blam!- explanation of the stuff 343 GS says.


He was talking about the FIRST reclaimer. The one who activated the rings THE FIRST TIME over 100,000 years ago.

Achilles

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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Ok. We are Humans. 343 GS knows this becuase he has analyzed our databases from the PoA. So he says "Please stop being Human" becuase he wants MC to be a perfect machine like him.


Right, but you said he said that in "The Library"... he technically never knew about Humans or our history for that matter until "The Maw".

Achilles


Maybe all he knew about us was what he learned in the Covenant database.

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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
And Bungie wouldn't make the Humans the Forerunner becuase that would directly contradict the teachings of several major religions. And Bungie doesn't do that kind of crap.


That made no sense at all.

Achilles


Are you retarded? Bungie doesn't interfere with religion. A.K.A. Bungie wouldn't make Humans The Forerunner becuase several major religions say that God made Humans.

  • 06.30.2004 11:42 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: MTHunter777
Forerunner are aliens. Humans don't have the technology to build Halo. We would have been won the war.


True, the explanation behind this is that we litterally forgot ourselves. We had to start from scratch again. Remember, Halo was used once. So we don't know EXACTLY how it works. Perhaps all the sentient life is killed off in a certain distance... correct? Maybe it didn't kill everything/everyone. So you have what remains of the Forerunners possibly stranded on a planet, Earth, and they have to start all over not remembering the past. Also, this is like a lot of old Sc-Fi flicks, stories. When Earth is destoryed there is a small group of survivors... like a contingency plan that no matter whay this little group will survive and the human race will continue.

Achilles

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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Posted by: MTHunter777
Forerunner are aliens. Humans don't have the technology to build Halo. We would have been won the war.


True, the explanation behind this is that we litterally forgot ourselves. We had to start from scratch again. Remember, Halo was used once. So we don't know EXACTLY how it works. Perhaps all the sentient life is killed off in a certain distance... correct? Maybe it didn't kill everything/everyone. So you have what remains of the Forerunners possibly stranded on a planet, Earth, and they have to start all over not remembering the past. Also, this is like a lot of old Sc-Fi flicks, stories. When Earth is destoryed there is a small group of survivors... like a contingency plan that no matter whay this little group will survive and the human race will continue.

Achilles


Ok, so in that sense, it wouldn't intefere with religion. Okay.
And I hate how you say Achilles at the end of each post.

Covenant Ninja

[Edited on 6/30/2004 11:46:17 PM]

  • 06.30.2004 11:45 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
And Bungie wouldn't make the Humans the Forerunner becuase that would directly contradict the teachings of several major religions. And Bungie doesn't do that kind of crap.


That made no sense at all.

Achilles


Are you retarded? Bungie doesn't interfere with religion. A.K.A. Bungie wouldn't make Humans The Forerunner becuase several major religions say that God made Humans.


Are you retarded? Bungie is not saying Humans are GODS!!!! Just because humans, IN THIS GAME WHICH IS FICTION IN EVERY WAY, may be linked to Forerunner or ARE Forerunner does not mean they are Gods. Wtf are you smoking dude? And also, Bungie has made serveral references to the Bible in Halo...

Achilles

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Read previous statement.

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Aight guys, you probably already explained this, but I'm too lazy to read it all, and I know I am right, Number one, somebody said "Why would he say that if the Humans weren't forrunners?" I'll tell you why, he said in The Maw, in the cutscene when you get to the bridge, "So this is all of our lost time? Interesting Human history is it?" And number two, He'd say "Stop shooting me human." because at that point in the game, he didn't even know we were the forerunners... But he found out in "The Maw." And To clarify the rest, go watch the cut scene... (Get to the bridge, and pay close attention to what he [343 GS] says.)

  • 06.30.2004 11:47 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: MTHunter777
WTF, evolution built us. Not some stranded humans.


Um... this is a game. This is not real... if the game said that flying pink hippos lived on Earth then that would be fact WITHIN the game world... please learn to seperate the two. Your argument could also be said that the Covenant are real then because the game says so...

Achilles

  • 06.30.2004 11:48 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Read previous statement.


Right, made the post while you posted that... everything's cool on this end.

Achilles

  • 06.30.2004 11:49 PM PDT