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Posted by: MTHunter777
WTF, evolution built us. Not some stranded humans.
First off, its just a game and doesnt really need to make sense (well it does to a point) with what happend in real life. Second, we do not know the whole story yet so all this argueing proves nothing. Why dont we wait till Halo 2 comes out and then try to make sense of everything.

  • 06.30.2004 11:49 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

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Posted by: MTHunter777
WTF, evolution built us. Not some stranded humans.
First off, its just a game and doesnt really need to make sense (well it does to a point) with what happend in real life. Second, we do not know the whole story yet so all this argueing proves nothing. Why dont we wait till Halo 2 comes out and then try to make sense of everything.


LoL, because debates are fun...

Achilles

  • 06.30.2004 11:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
if the game said that flying pink hippos lived on Earth
Thats just funny, but those do exsist :)

[Edited on 6/30/2004 11:56:31 PM]

  • 06.30.2004 11:56 PM PDT
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Okay, thread closed. Go have some hot Cocoa, and rest those achy fingers.

[Edited on 7/1/2004 12:16:08 AM]

  • 06.30.2004 11:58 PM PDT
Subject: "HUMANS ARE FORERUNNER" THEORY SHOT DOWN!!!!!!!!! (Well, ...
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Um, yea...

  • 07.01.2004 12:14 AM PDT
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This thread is interesting...

  • 07.01.2004 7:17 AM PDT
Subject: "HUMANS ARE FORERUNNER" THEORY SHOT DOWN!!!!!!!!!
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have any of you ever thought of a forerunner prophesy containing a human as the redeemer? since they are like gods i bet they are prophesy tellers. so there must be sum entry in the forerunner database about humans finding halo. "yes im a genious" 343GS ROX MY WORLD!

  • 07.01.2004 7:28 AM PDT
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Forerunner could not be human because we know Halo was fired before, so knowing the fact that we humans are here means that Halo was fired before sentient life evolved on Earth. So meaning that Halo was fired before we evolved so if we have not evolved yet so how can something be built by a race that has not evolved yet!

  • 07.01.2004 7:30 AM PDT
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dude talk sum sense. ever heard or pronouns? anyways how do you know halos been fired. and one halo cant take out everything. thats why there multiple halos to finish the job

  • 07.01.2004 7:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Well, that is a scripted response... cause in theory... you ARE NOT supposed to shoot him. Just like you're not supposed to kill the marines... yet people do anyway. The reason he says that it is a rough way or a different form of saying... "Stop being an idiot." Humans are idiots when you boil us down to the core. Evnious, Prideful, Lustful, etc. And so he is saying not to be that way... "Don't be an idoit and try to shoot me. I can't die." Also... what is your comment to the almost landfill amount of evidence supporting Human=Forerunner theory? Are you saying that is all now irrelevant cause of that one quote? Give me a break.

Achilles


HelI yeah, theory stands...

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Posted by: mojonation1487
dude talk sum sense. ever heard or pronouns? anyways how do you know halos been fired. and one halo cant take out everything. thats why there multiple halos to finish the job

1. 343 says "Why hesitate to do what you have already down?" so it means that Halo was fired before. And if Halo was fired before the other would of followed suite.
2. Pronouns only add to confusion.
3. Read it again, it makes sense.

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dont say evolve so many times in one sentance!

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evolve evolve evolve evolve evolve evolve evolve evolve evolve ! I only said it 3 times in one sentence.Besides do you have a better word?

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  • 07.01.2004 7:56 AM PDT
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1. 343 says "Why hesitate to do what you have already down?" so it means that Halo was fired before. And if Halo was fired before the other would of followed suite.



i thinkin he was just saying in other words, "you've come this far why should you stop"

  • 07.01.2004 8:34 AM PDT
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like he had already gone through the flood in the library and 343 level and got the index and put it in the control center and he almost activated to but cortana stoped it

  • 07.01.2004 8:36 AM PDT
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Please exercise a little logic here.

343 Guilty Spark has never heard of "The Forerunner", that's a unique name applied to them by Humans. The Forerunner surely didn't call themselves "Forerunner" and if you asked Guilty Spark about the Forerunner he'd look at you like you were insane.

So, of course he's going to call the Master Chief "Human".

Shot Down Theory... is Shot Down.

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Posted by: Covenant Ninja
And Bungie wouldn't make the Humans the Forerunner becuase that would directly contradict the teachings of several major religions. And Bungie doesn't do that kind of crap.


Um, those religions are wrong.
Me = Homebrew Shintoist

Anyways, remember that the Halos only kill organisms with "sufficient biomass and cognitive capability," meaning that it may not kill very young humans (Forerunner). Those that survived on Earth would've had no memory of technology or anything for that matter. Still, I have my own and very different theory but it's long and off-topic.

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Ok, let's sit here and think LOGICALLY, if the Forerunners are NOT Human, then how come Guilty Spark says "Our lost history"? Also, why would he say, "Please stop being human"? First off, to explain the stop being human part, let's remember what humans do, Kill ourselves. That's what's so great about humans, we kill ourselves, and with that, we are able to survive as long as we have against the covenant.If we didn't kill ourselves we would not have made guns useable for war, thus the covenant would have easily anhilated us early on in the war.Back to the Forerunners being human and so on. Think of it this way, Forerunner are colonizing planets and are deep in slip space when Halo was fired, well, since slip space is another dimension they would survive, so when they reappear, they would see a normal world with no sentient life, thus not knowing Halo was fired. And, when they come to land on the planet, they crash, or there communication dish is broken so they cannnot communicate with the rest of the galaxy. So they populate the world not knowing how to build any of there advance technology, so they start off again at the stoneage.Why can't they build advance technology? Maybe because there ship crashed. So they build up to were humans are, go build cybernetic soldiers, then explore Halo only to find that they know the symbols strangely well...hmmm, could mean descendant of the forerunner. And, why do the Covenant want us destroyed? Maybe because they think we have done something that has angered the gods (the forerunner) , and they want us exterminated. That's only half my theory but I am too tired to post the rest. If you have suffcent proof to say this theory is wrong I will not argue, but this is what i believe is the answer to forerunner being human question

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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Well, that is a scripted response... cause in theory... you ARE NOT supposed to shoot him. Just like you're not supposed to kill the marines... yet people do anyway. The reason he says that it is a rough way or a different form of saying... "Stop being an idiot." Humans are idiots when you boil us down to the core. Evnious, Prideful, Lustful, etc. And so he is saying not to be that way... "Don't be an idoit and try to shoot me. I can't die." Also... what is your comment to the almost landfill amount of evidence supporting Human=Forerunner theory? Are you saying that is all now irrelevant cause of that one quote? Give me a break.

Achilles


I think your right.

  • 07.01.2004 8:53 AM PDT
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draedron (sorry if i misspell your name) not to make you sound stupid or anything but if yu really payed attention to the game you would know cortana says that the covanent believe halo was created by earlier beings they called the 'forerunners'.

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That theory is stupid he just sayin don't be an idiot in a different way. Besides in the maw he says "all of our lost history"

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If your trying to prove the point that the Master Chief is a Forerunner... then your wrong. The Forerunners are an ancient and pretty unknown (even to Cortana) alien race that created Halo as a "jail cell" for the Flood. Never can the MC be a Forerunner because he is a human named John (if you ever read the books you wouldve known this). All the Spartans are humans ( who were picked away at a young age to become cybernetcally enhanced super soldiers). Just becuase they wear MJOLINIR battle armor doesnt mean there alien.. there human inside of that suit.

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MC Slayer, you're quite right. Thank you. Though the theory still stands even though it was the Covenant that named them and not the humans.

Think of it this way. If you were a general giving out gifts of honour to your soldiers after the civil war would you label the cutlass you gave them "In honour of your service to the *First* civil war"? How would you know it would be the first? How would you know that there was or wasn't one to come after? No, you'd label it without the "First" calling it just "The Civil War.

The truth is, no one, would name themselves the "Forerunner", because that by definition means "Those that came before". That's like calling yourself extinct.

343 Guilty Spark would have no knowledge of the name Forerunner so there's no way he would turn to Master Chief and say, "Stop being so Forerunner."

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Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
And Bungie wouldn't make the Humans the Forerunner becuase that would directly contradict the teachings of several major religions. And Bungie doesn't do that kind of crap.


That made no sense at all.

Achilles


Are you retarded? Bungie doesn't interfere with religion. A.K.A. Bungie wouldn't make Humans The Forerunner becuase several major religions say that God made Humans.


You do have an exellent point.

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Posted by: SPARTAN55555
If your trying to prove the point that the Master Chief is a Forerunner... then your wrong. The Forerunners are an ancient and pretty unknown (even to Cortana) alien race that created Halo as a "jail cell" for the Flood. Never can the MC be a Forerunner because he is a human named John (if you ever read the books you wouldve known this). All the Spartans are humans ( who were picked away at a young age to become cybernetcally enhanced super soldiers). Just becuase they wear MJOLINIR battle armor doesnt mean there alien.. there human inside of that suit.


Everything you wrote there is conjecture. The very fact that they are ancient and unknown does not preclude the idea that we were are the descendents of the Forerunner. Further, the Halos are not the Flood's "Jail". It was created to "study and contain the Flood" for whatever reasons the Forerunner had.

  • 07.01.2004 9:01 AM PDT