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Subject: Humans arent Forerunners.
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1. 343 says "Why hesitate to do what you have already down?" so it means that Halo was fired before. And if Halo was fired before the other would of followed suite.
2. Pronouns only add to confusion.
3. Read it again, it makes sense.[/quote]

His statement sorta makes the most sence... reading all of your random ideas is confusing.

  • 07.01.2004 10:19 AM PDT
Subject: "HUMANS ARE FORERUNNER" THEORY SHOT DOWN!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: triggerhappy336
Draerden: You either copied that off halo.bungie.org. Or you were the one who posted it. I'm not sure which

Theres also this theory that I read a while ago that got me thinking. This theory says that we are the "forerunner". But what happens is when the POA does the space boost (forgot name, to lazy to look up) in the beginnig of H1 that it traveled into the future. And that the Halos were built by humans but before the POA gets out of the time warp thingie. I mean, it makes sense.


I did not copy it, I assure you. It's my third revision of my ideas. Originally the Flood in my ideas was an attempt by the Forerunner to attain a state of immortality. This version came into being answering one question. "Why where the Halos created?" I generally came up with the idea of a Noah's Ark. Why else would you simulate a planet's environment on a space station?

That theory of the time travel however... I'm not fond of it only because that would mean the other Halos that we are going to visit in Halo2 would also be in the future. Without the crystal from First Strike we'd not be able to do that. Secondly, I had the feeling that the the distortion wasn't quite *that* intense. Further, if Humanity was destroyed in the past, how would they build the Halos in the future in order to send them back and save themselves? Unless, the Covenant are also all time travellers. At that point the whole thing gets convoluted. Why didn't the covenant go back further in time to attack Earth in its infancy? If they are also from the future why don't they know the location of Earth?

  • 07.01.2004 10:20 AM PDT
Subject: Humans are Humans..
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After playing library at the end when you get the index the monitor says that your life form is unable to hold the index becuase you could get an infection...Now if the forerunners built Halo then why would they not be able to carry the index? Dosent make sense. Humans are Humans.

  • 07.01.2004 1:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rift
After playing library at the end when you get the index the monitor says that your life form is unable to hold the index becuase you could get an infection...Now if the forerunners built Halo then why would they not be able to carry the index? Dosent make sense. Humans are Humans.


Enh! (Annoying Buzzer sound) Infected by the Flood. The index must not fall into the hands of the flood.

Monitor: "You may now retrieve the index. Protocol requires that I take
possession of the index for transport. Your organic form renders you
vulnerable to infection. The index must not fall into the hands of the Flood
before we reach the control room and activate the installation."

  • 07.01.2004 1:17 PM PDT
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so basically 343 is saying that if mc had the index if the flood took him over he would give the index to the flood as in infected he means taken over not sick... Draerden you said exactly what i said but people dont have the same intelagence level to know what you said so i made it sorta ebonics for people lol (j/k)

  • 07.01.2004 2:12 PM PDT
Subject: "HUMANS ARE FORERUNNER" THEORY SHOT DOWN!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: Sornos
Forerunner could not be human because we know Halo was fired before, so knowing the fact that we humans are here means that Halo was fired before sentient life evolved on Earth. So meaning that Halo was fired before we evolved so if we have not evolved yet so how can something be built by a race that has not evolved yet!

I'm telling you read my theory! It disproves the Human=Forerunner . BTW Draeden your idea's pretty good.

  • 07.01.2004 2:17 PM PDT
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sornos if you listen to how halo works it destroy's things by mass if someone such as a 5 year old or very small child where to be shot by the rays of halo it would not decipate them.therfor life goes on

  • 07.01.2004 2:26 PM PDT

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Thats not what shoots it down.... I can't remember what does, but I know I posted it somewhere.....

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  • 07.01.2004 2:34 PM PDT
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sornos if you listen to how halo works it destroy's things by mass if someone such as a 5 year old or very small child where to be shot by the rays of halo it would not decipate them.therfor life goes on

Ahhh...One little problem . Are all human beings the size of a 5 year old? My theory stands.BTW I think that Halo kills sentient life with sufficient bio-mass to substain the flood.

[Edited on 7/1/2004 2:35:33 PM]

  • 07.01.2004 2:34 PM PDT

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343 GS has never MET humans. How could he use the term like that?!?!? And I still beleive that Humans AREN'T the Forerunner.
Do you know that for a fact? He also calls Master Chief "The Reclaimer", and says something like "Why are you having trouble doing what you have already done", meaning that there was someone like MC that was there (met 343 Guilty Spark) before.


Dam guys if anyone has read my Threads I talk about this there was one about a week or 2 ago which says "History Repeats Itself" so maybe there was another war like the Humans and Covenant. Maybe the Covenant were involed or maybe not. Maybe it was the Forerunners and some other race and The Forerunners looked like Master Cheif maybe becoz his Armor. And maybe the other Race release the Flood just like the stupid Covenant.

  • 07.01.2004 2:37 PM PDT
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God damnit you guys are so stupid. I already explained this.
HUMANS, are the forerunner... Go listen VERY closely to what 343 GS says in the cutscene in "The Maw" when you get to the bridge... He's gathering all the information, and he says crap about how he is findnig all of their (Forerunners) "lost time..." And then he says "Human history is it?" HUMANS, Are the forerunner, if I have to say this again I might go insane. Go listen to the Cutscene...

  • 07.01.2004 3:03 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

Don't be arrogant! Nothing has been proven, thus no one is right. No one is stupid. Don't make accusatioins.

Halo 2 will explain everything... if not, Halo 3 (if there will be) will, or maybe a book...

  • 07.01.2004 3:11 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

And lets remember that 343 Guilty Spark has been on Halo with no one to talk to for over 100,000 years, and rambles on to himself... I think he's a little crazy, so don't completely trust what he says.

  • 07.01.2004 3:13 PM PDT
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Its a insult he thinks humans suck soooooo...

  • 07.01.2004 3:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Chaplain
God damnit you guys are so stupid. I already explained this.
HUMANS, are the forerunner... Go listen VERY closely to what 343 GS says in the cutscene in "The Maw" when you get to the bridge... He's gathering all the information, and he says crap about how he is findnig all of their (Forerunners) "lost time..." And then he says "Human history is it?" HUMANS, Are the forerunner, if I have to say this again I might go insane. Go listen to the Cutscene...


Shai Halud is correct sir. That is heavy evidence, but as always it is not proof. 343 Guilty Spark as a witness is a little... wanting. He'd be inadmissable in a court of law certainly due to his mental instability.

  • 07.01.2004 3:54 PM PDT
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Forerunner could not be human because we know Halo was fired before,[/color][color=lime] so knowing the fact that we humans are here means that Halo was fired before sentient life evolved on Earth.[/color] [color=green]So meaning that Halo was fired before we evolved so if we have not evolved yet so how can something be built by a race that has not evolved yet!

I'm telling you read my theory! It disproves the Human=Forerunner . BTW Draeden your idea's pretty good.

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The part in lime makes no sense at all. Halo could have fired eliminating all of our previous history. It fired a little over 100,000 years from the current time frame in Halo universe. It says so in the book. In the REAL world, the world Halo universe it built around, we have artifacts and clues that date back human history about that far. Hmm...coincidence??? Maybe to a closed mind! Wouldn't that explain how humans MAGICALLY appeared on earth, besides the idea of God putting us here??? The only other idea is that we evolved, but I think that is a factor we can count out. ESPECIALLY sincewhen Halo fires it destoryes ALL SENTIENT LIFE including earth, because the Halo's exist within the same galaxy, and thus the base reason why we didn't want Halo fired in the first place. (Halo1 plot) [/color]
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If Halo's fired as we were evolving then there would be nothing on earth, life woulf have started over from 100,000 years back. So its either God put us here or we ended up here AFTER the blast which was 100,000 years ago. make sense yet???[/color]

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Posted by: Shai Hulud
And lets remember that 343 Guilty Spark has been on Halo with no one to talk to for over 100,000 years, and rambles on to himself... I think he's a little crazy, so don't completely trust what he says.
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You THINK he is a little crazy??? You don't know anything about him! He was created by an ADVANCED race, so anything he says or does is at the very least advanced, or from an advanced aspect of thought. In order to lie, one must have a REASON fro lying. 343 is only following normal procedure. He has no reason to go rampant, and I'm sure forrunner created him to last alot longer then a mere 100,000 years. [/color]

[Edited on 7/1/2004 4:03:40 PM]

  • 07.01.2004 3:58 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

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I'm not trying to disprove any theories or anything here, and I believe anything is possible, but if humans were related to the forerunners, why the hell did we build the passageways so freakin huge on Halo?

  • 07.01.2004 4:03 PM PDT
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What if its like Advent Rising? The humans are decendants of Forrunners, but aren't as perfect, and the Covenant want to destroy them for that reason, they aren't pure like the Forunners were, thus they arent worthy of their blood. I don't know if someone already said something like this, but here it is. If you don't like this idea, don't bother flaming me, I made it up right now, so there.

Btw, just so its clear, I do not believe they are or are not Forrunners, but i HOPE they are.

[Edited on 7/1/2004 4:05:41 PM]

  • 07.01.2004 4:04 PM PDT
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[color=yellow]Posted by: Nelo Angelo
I'm not trying to disprove any theories or anything here, and I believe anything is possible, but if humans were related to the forerunners, why the hell did we build the passageways so freakin huge on Halo?
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Halo is made up of HUGE structures. In order for a huge structure to get there, it has to be moved there. EX: Huge chunks of bridge, huge boulders being tunneled out, tanks for future humans...the important part is the normal sized door ways...why are they so similar to pillar of autumns???? ever thought of that question???[/color]

  • 07.01.2004 4:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: PREDAT0R
You THINK he is a little crazy??? You don't know anything about him! He was created by an ADVANCED race, so anything he says or does is at the very least advanced, or from an advanced aspect of thought. In order to lie, one must have a REASON fro lying. 343 is only following normal procedure. He has no reason to go rampant, and I'm sure forrunner created him to last alot longer then a mere 100,000 years. [/color]

343 Guilty Spark talks to himself, mistakes the Master Chief as someone that hasn't been alive in a hundred milennia and you don't think he's the smallest bit insane?

343 strikes me as delusional, making weighted judgements to get the answers he wishes.

  • 07.01.2004 4:08 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

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[color=yellow]Posted by: Nelo Angelo
I'm not trying to disprove any theories or anything here, and I believe anything is possible, but if humans were related to the forerunners, why the hell did we build the passageways so freakin huge on Halo?
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Halo is made up of HUGE structures. In order for a huge structure to get there, it has to be moved there. EX: Huge chunks of bridge, huge boulders being tunneled out, tanks for future humans...the important part is the normal sized door ways...why are they so similar to pillar of autumns???? ever thought of that question???[/color]


Why would the Forerunner take the time to tunnel a passageway out of an object in the middle of space when they could have just built the passageway in the first place when they built halo.

  • 07.01.2004 4:13 PM PDT
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[color=lime]weighted judgements???

I think you mean he was assuming, what new found species he has now encountered. You do realize that although cove claim to be from forrunner, 343 assumes humans are??? How is it that when cove/humans land on Halo, 343 assumes cove are a threat, but when he encounters humans, he befriends them???

Both cove AND humans have been trying to get inside halo before 343 makes his introduction to us in 343 guilty spark. Infact we are the ones shutting down security overrides! Remember silent cartographer?

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  • 07.01.2004 4:17 PM PDT
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Why did we build the CN tower to be as it is, or the Eiffel Tower? Why do we build anything the way we do?

Simple. It's impressive. It's awe inspiring. It shows the majesty of your works.

  • 07.01.2004 4:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nelo Angelo
Posted by: PREDAT0R
[color=yellow]Posted by: Nelo Angelo
I'm not trying to disprove any theories or anything here, and I believe anything is possible, but if humans were related to the forerunners, why the hell did we build the passageways so freakin huge on Halo?
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Halo is made up of HUGE structures. In order for a huge structure to get there, it has to be moved there. EX: Huge chunks of bridge, huge boulders being tunneled out, tanks for future humans...the important part is the normal sized door ways...why are they so similar to pillar of autumns???? ever thought of that question???[/color]



Why would the Forerunner take the time to tunnel a passageway out of an object in the middle of space when they could have just built the passageway in the first place when they built halo.


[color=lime]I'm not forrunner am I? wether they built it from the ground up or tunneled out a planet does not change the theory that humans are forrunner so really...who cares???[/color]


[Edited on 7/1/2004 4:19:50 PM]

  • 07.01.2004 4:19 PM PDT
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Predator: With "Weighted Judgements" I was referring to his delusional state. If 343 is capable of confusing Master Chief with the last person he was talking with 100,000 years ago or more then what else is he capable of confusing.

Perhaps you object to the term "insane" but he is definitely unbalanced in some way making his words somewhat circumspect. What he says may be true, then again it might not. That's the problem when dealing with delusional people.

  • 07.01.2004 4:21 PM PDT