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As much as I like that progressive societal ideal, I don't think so.

It also wouldn't explain why the Prophets are scared of humanity.

More likely that the Covenant have realized their masters have returned. They recognized them and immediately declared them an affront to the gods and to have them destroyed. If the humans realize the truth, that they are the Forerunner, and this was told to the Covenant... then all hell would break loose. The Covenant, (which means a promise between one or more peoples) would be immediately shattered.

  • 07.01.2004 5:39 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

That is a very good motive for a hierarchy like the prophets to declare a sort of jihad against humanity. Sure does beckon on realistic modern issues.

The "Affront to the Gods" part is quite key, and does make nearly air-tight sense.It's funny that we are their gods and we don't even know it.

[Edited on 7/1/2004 5:49:23 PM]

  • 07.01.2004 5:46 PM PDT

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(just wanted to share my theory and some stuff,Draerden, Your theory is good ,very good.but mine is based on alot of facts and science and stuff like that, which makes you wonder alot.)
My Halo Theory:

I belive that (in real life) theirs a mythical place called Atlantis. A place were a group of people were alot advance. So in thought the Forerunners colonized Earth and created a colony called Atlantis. But then a huge massive storm came and flood the entire land and also a volcano and earthquakes made the city sink into the very bottem of the sea or ocean. So when Halo was fired it killed of corse all biomass and senitent life equal for the flood to live off of the organism. Now possible that the humans werent equal with the flood. That they didnt get killed and they were spared but now are biomass is cause every life started from water no matter what cause all life needs water and their planet should be a rageing volcanic planet. But they started from one cell to multi celled organisms and then became more complex like us right now and possibly that when halo was fired it made all life to restart their evolution again that was within the range of the weapon.
<--- End --->
Well basicly I got science and myths and stuff that backs it up to the reason that the Forerunners are and not humans. But basicly I think that the Forerunners are Humans.(and yes i no what 343 and cortanna and all that stuff and what they say and ya)

Or maybe they created the Covenant to also distory all life that has equal biomass. So that if the Halo program fails. They have the Covenant to distory all life equal to biomass but yet theirs one or a few things that makes this theory false.(quote from game:Assult on the control room
CORTANA:

Never been better... you can't imagine the wealth of information. Knowledge... so much... so fast. It's glorious!

MASTER CHIEF:

So... what sort of weapon is it?

CORTANA:

What are you talking about?

MASTER CHIEF:

Let's stay focused. Halo... how do we use it against the Covenant?

CORTANA:

This ring isn't a cudgel, you barbarian, it's something else... something much more important. The Covenant were right... this ring... it's Forerunner. Give me a second to access... yes, the Forerunner built this place, what they called a, "fortress world," in order to... no, that can't be. Oh, those Covenant fools...they must've known, there must have been signs!

MASTER CHIEF:

Slow down. You're losin' me.

CORTANA:

The Covenant found something, buried in this ring, something horrible, and now...they're afraid.

MASTER CHIEF:

Something buried? Where?

CORTANA:

The Captain, we've got to stop the Captain!

MASTER CHIEF:

Keyes? What do we-

CORTANA:

The weapons cache he's looking for, it's not really-we can't let him get inside!

MASTER CHIEF:

I don't understan-

CORTANA:

There's no time! Get out of here, find Keyes, stop him! Before it's too late!
<--- END --->
This proves that Halo was built by the Forerunners and the covenant werent created by the Forerunners.
(this one proves that Humans are Forerunners or just has the same kind of tech but lower.)

343 GUILTY SPARK:

These Sentinels will supplement your combat system. But, I suggest you upgrade to at least a Class Twelve combat skin. Your current model only scans as a Class Two, which is ill suited for this kind of work.

343 GUILTY SPARK:

Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed.
(this means that some other dude with the same armor and the same life form ,possibly went their)
(this proves why the last time Halo was fired)
343 GUILTY SPARK:
Why naturally the Flood is simply too dangerous to release, and mass sterilization protocols may again need to be enacted. Of course, samples were kept here after the last catastrophic outbreak...for study. It seems... that decision may have been an error.

another theory (quote from game) of why the weapon when fired the last time.
343 GUILTY SPARK:

(pauses) More or less. Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood. (pause) But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you?

did ya find it? is earth really in the range of 25,000 light years? I dont think so. Or any other Halo rings when they were fired, if they were, when Earth was in the range of one of the Halo weapon possibly, why was Earth in or not in range? cause of interstaller drift from other planets. Earth could or couldnt have been in range and possbly still not, after 100,000 years I so do not think so even before it was fired.

another quote:
"The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce."

Possibly the Humans and the Forerunners were allies and when they found the flood. They created installations for the flood to study them and to find a cure for the infected ones. And the Halo weapons were back ups if the flood managed to escaped the installations and spread across in that area of space. So thats another theory of why Humans arnt Forerunners but maybe allies.

[Edited on 7/1/2004 6:13:15 PM]

  • 07.01.2004 5:49 PM PDT
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i think cortana is gonna die in halo 2 and all the info is lost and you have to recover it from other databases on the second halo.


that cant be right bcuz halo2 is set on earth good idea tho

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Especially considering that once the Humans are talking to the Covenant directly and telling them "You are Free. We would be your allies, not your masters" the Prophets would have no one to command... and likely they'll be quite a number of rightly pissed off Elites, Jackals and Grunts...

The Prophets would be irradicated. For them, EVERYTHING is at stake.

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exactly

  • 07.01.2004 6:07 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

Do you think this could be the start of the "civil war" that has been floating around in ideas? Do one of the classes of Covenant figure it out and revolt against the others.(hopefully not the grunts, we'd still be screwed)

  • 07.01.2004 6:09 PM PDT

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possibly not, the Covenant has a strong belf and hirarcy (or how ever u spell it) system

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  • 07.01.2004 6:14 PM PDT

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besides Bungie is still working on Halo 2 so maybe yes or no but its still a strong no for me

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The stronger the belief in a lie, the more crushing the truth is when that lie is found out.

That is a universal truth.

Worse, it is the reason for a great deal of bloodshed throughout history.

  • 07.01.2004 6:29 PM PDT
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i agree it would ruin the covenant

  • 07.01.2004 7:01 PM PDT

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same ,If I was a member of the Covenant I would be so *beep*en pissed that I would start killing again but for a differnent purpose,becaue im pised lol

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  • 07.01.2004 8:02 PM PDT
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I think the epolouge of first strike has something to do with halo 2 story, its called Harbringer and at www.dictionary.com it says under one of the definitoins that it means fourunner....so there (ps the chapter talks about the covies)

  • 07.01.2004 8:19 PM PDT

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intresting....

  • 07.01.2004 8:26 PM PDT
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This is gonna kinda contridict my previous post but... in halo "the flood" master chief can interface with the fourrunner systems faster than cortana can and she remarks about this, like he has done this before or knows what to do sub-conciously

  • 07.01.2004 8:44 PM PDT

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so ur sayin that in the past he did it and the he decended to a spartan and their again but didnt no that he did it like 100,000 years ago , its like he used a time maching going back 100,000 years ago and fireing the weapon. Wow thats so smart!

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Yeah that's right huh... This is kinda turning out to be a sort of liek, Matrix Story line, lol where they keep doing it all over again.

  • 07.01.2004 9:04 PM PDT

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lol

  • 07.01.2004 9:10 PM PDT
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whoah u guys!!!!!!! calm down!!!!!! wat about this:


the master chiefis just a regular normal human, the covenant calls the beings that made halo the "Forerunners". the "Forerunners" is just a nickname. the forrunners could be cavemen, or it could be aliens from the future who came back before the flood, built this terd of a machine to kill them, and shut off the machine until the right dude came along and flipped the switch. so thats it, thats halos history. goodbye, vidasea, sianora, see ya.

the end of this discussion.

  • 07.01.2004 10:56 PM PDT

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Hey man the Forerunners built Halo as a back up if the flood escaped. Halo kills the floods food and not the flood itself

  • 07.01.2004 11:41 PM PDT

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And that aint Halos history.Its just basicly the storyline of halo.

  • 07.01.2004 11:43 PM PDT
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MC is referred t as reclaimer becasue it is he who recovers the index!

  • 07.02.2004 6:31 AM PDT
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HOLY BEJESUS! 6 pages of this...im lazy so gimmie a break but perhaps there on a power trip knowing in all most forms of life want power perhaps they do too? and decide not even our gods will be stronger...by the way perhaps the porphets are forerunner or maybe yes the human are plus I agree from b4 that yeh im sure it only said "Stop being human" or w/e b/c one of the makers figured some one would be a schmoe like I was get bored and shoot the little blue floatin orb hell I tried it all lol rocket launcher doesnt work neither do sentinels! :-\ thats why the flood dont even bother attackin him plus a theory to support my reason is in the reactor room when he says "This is all our history...human is it" or w/e crap im too lazy to go play The MAW right now well if he wouldnt exactly know humans till that point finding all of our info on the PoA how did he know before yep exactly so im sure it was just a creator putting it there for schmoes like meSupporting this forerunner crap we dont know what and who it is so stop making assumptions! its agrivating and making me read too much

  • 07.02.2004 7:18 AM PDT
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man i cant even read your post...use punctuation. (see that period)

  • 07.02.2004 7:22 AM PDT
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Even the High Prophet of Truth doesn't want to read 6 pages of theories, 99.999% of which have already been mentioned or posted. And Covenant Ninja is a moron ;-)

The High Prophet of Truth has spoken.

  • 07.02.2004 7:31 AM PDT