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Has anyone actually gone to the website I mentioned earlier (page 3 of this post).


Please read this:
http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm

And thenI think we can start a more detailed, lively topic of screen watching.

  • 07.30.2004 8:33 AM PDT
Subject: Is Screen watching cheating????
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You guys seem to know what your talking about here. And im just a new comer so I realy have no clue. Even though i've beat HALO on all difficulty levels I still have no clue whats going on.

  • 07.30.2004 8:33 AM PDT
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I think that it depends on the situation. I agree with what PositvIndividual is getting at here. A winner uses any tactical advantage that he himself can find. I think getting someone in the other room specifically for the purpose of screen watching is lame and punishable by death (as is looking away from your TV entirely to look at someone elses)...but remember, if someone can watch your screen than you can also watch theirs (e.i. you are on the same TV. Yes it changes the game, you can longer snipe someone as easily or stealth kill them...well adapt your tactics to the situation you find yourself in. I know its possible for all you halo-ers out there. None of you could honestly say that you play the same way on Bloodgulch or Sidewinder as you do in Chiron or Longest

I personally dont look at other screens to find out where people are, but lets face it, most of us only have one XBOX and a 20 inch television...it can be hard to not notice things if your are an observant person.

In short, screen watching is not cheating when it is an equal tactical advantage. It is simply another tool, which you can add to your arsenal. However, once you start to actively search out a view of someone on another TV that is when things get sticky.

Sorry about the long post,
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  • 07.30.2004 9:59 AM PDT
Subject: Is Screen watching cheating????
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YESS!!!!!

IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE THAT SUCK AT HALO!

  • 07.30.2004 10:49 AM PDT
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Yeah, it is cheating. Heck I do it too, but it is somewhat an uncontrolable habit...

Although recently I havn't been doing it as much, cause it pisses off my friends and gets me a slug in the arm...

But I have been using my motion tracker more than looking at other people's screens. But when someone thinks I have been screen watching (even though I'm not,) they make a huge ass deal out of it. When I say "I saw you on my Motion Tracker", (and I am telling the truth), they say I'm out of range. WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT!?!?!? OF COURSE I'M TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!!! WHAT KIND OF MOTHER-blam!- BULL-blam!- ARE THEY THINKING!?!?!?!

  • 07.30.2004 10:57 AM PDT
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I hate it when ppl look off of other ppl screens, my one friend does it and becuase hes been playing Halo ever since it got out. He's only played Halo MP on one XBox, no lan parties or anything like that, I just want to play against him on two different screens to see how good he really is, because when we play, all he does is screen watch.

  • 07.30.2004 11:30 AM PDT
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I know I'm going to get flamed to hell and gone for saying this.....But I think screen watching is just playing smart. It's not like the people you're playing can't do it. There is no advantage that can't be utilized by everyone. Now, I think this is ok if you are on the same screen, but if you're running into another room during a LAN to scope the other persons view, that's lame.
My philosophy is: Use what you can.
I'm sure Master Chief would agree...

[Edited on 7/30/2004 11:40:20 AM]

  • 07.30.2004 11:39 AM PDT
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It may not have to be considered cheationg but its really pathetic if the only way you can beat someone is to look at their screen to find out where they are

  • 07.30.2004 1:46 PM PDT
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how in the world is that playing smart?!?! are you not good enough to beat someone by not screen peeking THAT is pathetic and i seriously doubt the master chief would agree with that

  • 07.30.2004 1:48 PM PDT
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i think no cause i do it all the time. i mean when im loosing or something like that

  • 07.30.2004 2:56 PM PDT
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I say if you see someone screen watching then go pluck their eyes out.

  • 07.30.2004 2:57 PM PDT
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jesus christ people its war mutha-blam!-a! i screenwatched kicked ass, my bro and freind got all -blam!- about it, so then i stopped and im still one mean son-uffa--blam!-. they still cant beat me halo is not all that different screenhacking or not, if you are actualy good enought it doesnt make a big difference.

  • 07.30.2004 3:34 PM PDT
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Well, I don't screen-watch, but I can't help but see the screens in my peripheral (did I spell that right?) vision. However, if I do see the other person's screen and I'm about to be shot at, I'll just get hit a little, act surprised, and run away.

  • 07.30.2004 4:07 PM PDT
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Its called screen looking not watching, god that sounds so dumb.

  • 07.30.2004 4:38 PM PDT

They call me phat for a reason....

..Elites rule..

Yes screen whatching is cheating but still. Look when someone freaks out cause you played so much Halo that you memorized the levels side to side and know where they are with just the simpliest glance I think its just because they cant do it themselves. If any of you say that you have never watched a screen your a d*&n liar cause no matter who you are we all have done it (unless you play strickly Halo on the PC by yourself :p )And dont give me that honor crap about how its makes you any less of a Halo combatant.

Every army in the world has Recon teams to scope out enemy positions. Screen watching is the same thing. Now dont get me wrong Im not proud of screen watching and I dont do it all the time but when it comes down to it If your in the heat of battle with one more kill to go and your enemy has a sniper rifle and only a kill to win could you guys really say that you would big enough to take that sniper round to the head?

I dont know maybe Im the one thats wrong for doing it occasionally but come Novemember 9 only the strong (or really the Elites) will survive.

Call me pathetic if you will, but your the ones that just ate my rocket It all about adapting to the situation.....Sorry!!!


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  • 07.30.2004 4:51 PM PDT
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when I am playing 1 on 1 on 1 TV I always look because my friend is probally looking so it evens out But if you r playin LAN and a guy runs over to the other room thats cheating But Halo 2 on live its gonna be so cool your sniping on top of a building then blam!!! you get nocked out from behind!! ya!!

  • 07.30.2004 5:48 PM PDT
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it's part of the game. It's automatic, you will see someonse screen or you simply have bad eye site or you are trying to hard. Halo 1 isn't stealth it's quik reflexes and smart reactions. You would need a large screen to not screen peek. Even with 8 players playing it's still hard not to look.It's the way the game was made you just have to exsept it. It's a great game needing timing along with everything else. You both can screen peek so it is equall. I say screen peek all you want.......... well thats my oppinion anyways.

  • 07.30.2004 6:57 PM PDT
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Yes its cheating split screens are a neccesity in multiplayer not a feature. If you were supposed to know where they were Bungie would have put arrows over enemies as well not to mention what weapons they have.

[Edited on 8/1/2004 9:21:45 AM]

  • 08.01.2004 9:21 AM PDT
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I don't think it is........I mean, if two players have the same chance then why not take it, but when you are playing lan and you look over your shoulder I think it is!

(I HATE THAT)

  • 08.01.2004 11:11 AM PDT
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it's cheating. that's why i don't play split screen if i can avoid it.

  • 08.01.2004 11:22 AM PDT
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its cheating cuz it ruins any element of stealth in the game. I would love to move slow enough to avoid the motion tracker slap a plasma on there back and run like hell but instead when i aproach them they have their -blam!- guns blazin
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i am aginst looking on peoples screens so if i'm playing aginst my friend and i see his screen and i react to him seeing me and if i kill him i'll comit suicide to even the scores back up

  • 08.01.2004 9:00 PM PDT
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If you're all playing on the same screen, then no, there's no way you can't see where the other people are, but if you're on different screens, then yes, that is very much cheating.

  • 08.01.2004 11:22 PM PDT
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if you say you don't look at other peoples screen then you are lying. my friend always looks on my screen and i punch him for doing it but you will always have somone that looks on other peoples screens but what can you do about it.

  • 08.01.2004 11:57 PM PDT
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i HATE SCREEN WATCHERS they are newbies with big boobies

  • 08.02.2004 1:29 AM PDT
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i think it's cheating, when i'm playing against some of my friends, and they see i'm gonna headshot them with the sniper, they start juping and running to hide.

  • 08.02.2004 3:30 AM PDT