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Subject: The only "omg I gut EXP banned for NO RAISON" thread

I really don't understand why I have a signature.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=26461843&p ostRepeater1-p=1#26463228]So you can get banned for achievement boosting? Tell that to Sketchfactor.
Scroll down the page abit.

[Edited on 09.30.2008 8:32 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2008 8:32 AM PDT

I'm not pissed because I was exp banned, but in the manner that I was. No message, no explanation, just no experience when I played today. I didn't recieve the ban thursday or friday, like everyone else (I reached 20 exp in BTB friday,) but this weekend, when I was out of town, and apparently out of luck. I would like to know why the hell my exp gaining was turned off, because like any good fan who doesn't try to boost, cheat, or generally tries not to be a douche, I wan't to know what behavior of my triggered the exp ban so I can stop it, but apparently bungie doesn't feel this way, and believes that anyone who is banned should know what they have done.

The equivalent of your wife telling you "Oh, you know," when you two are fighting about something you apparently did. It doesn't help and just causes more frustration on both sides.

I guess (as that is all I can do) its for me quitting whenever a MUCH higher ranked team using second accounts to get easy matches (TTL) starts to spawncamp my team of "newbs," and if that occurs at a high enough frequency to get me an EXP ban, then perhaps bungie should spend less time devising ways to punish people and more time working on ways to make the MM system actually work (as I am not alone in that quitting compulsion.)

And in the end I doubt this is going to help. Sure, it makes it harder to cheat the exp system, but the incentive to cheat in Halo 3 is still there. People are the same old jerks that they've always been. Turning off their EXP will not stop them from achievement boosting, or using second accounts, or anything. The root cause, that people online are jerks and still have the capability to cheat, is still as present as ever and all bungie is doing is treating the symptoms, like our judicial system.

So instead of finding new ways to screw cheaters why not make it impossible to cheat. For example, make it so that if a "rookie" account is in a group of all "veterans," that the MM system refers to the truskills of the veteran players only, and not take into account the rookie, when finding a game. Sure, a rookie can then "boost" to a higher level because he is guaranteed a very high match, but its not as if he's going to be playing anyone he shouldn't.

That way, boosting means nothing because the benefit, easy games against mis-matched players, is lost, improving the MM for everyone.


But no, Bungie is too worried about preserving the imaginary dignity of achievements and the EXP system to care about something like "gaming the MM system through by partying up with second accounts, ruining the game for every team that is matched up with such cheaters," which is probably why Halo 3 is number 2 on xbox live.

  • 09.30.2008 8:40 AM PDT

innocent its play normaal bungie are crazy never play false

[Edited on 09.30.2008 8:47 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2008 8:42 AM PDT
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I have not recieved any message of being banned. I played on Sunday with no message and actually gained exp. Now today I could not gain any exp. or rank. Plus it isn't even adding to the ranked games played. Am I banned?? I have 1273 xp with a high skill of 35 with 2200 ranked games played. That really looks like a booster to me. Also I don't even have most of the achievements. I could care less about them. I just play the game for fun. I play with lower and higher skilled people, I really don't care about my skill rateing, but it irks me if I was banned for no reason.

[Edited on 09.30.2008 8:49 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2008 8:46 AM PDT

I take screenshots 'cause it's fun but also I'm good...Grunts a Blazing Clan ftw. Foto Rules!!! Foto for Faves!

I appreciate my ban as I have done wrong. I deserve to be killed. Shishka, you do the honours and blame stosh! Lol, So sorry about my ban! :)

  • 09.30.2008 8:55 AM PDT

Posted by: I AM PSYCHOMAN
I have not recieved any message of being banned. I played on Sunday with no message and actually gained exp. Now today I could not gain any exp. or rank. Plus it isn't even adding to the ranked games played. Am I banned?? I have 1273 xp with a high skill of 35 with 2200 ranked games played. That really looks like a booster to me. Also I don't even have most of the achievements. I could care less about them. I just play the game for fun. I play with lower and higher skilled people, I really don't care about my skill rateing, but it irks me if I was banned for no reason.


You know, I wouldn't be suprised if the Banning system flipped out when Microsoft ran their maintainance yesterday.

  • 09.30.2008 8:56 AM PDT
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People who haven't been banned have been saying there is a problem with the EXP, is that true?

  • 09.30.2008 8:56 AM PDT

I didn't get a message of any kind.
Neither did my housemate.
Neither of us are receiving any XP for any games played.

  • 09.30.2008 8:59 AM PDT

Posted by: PhillyEagles20
People who haven't been banned have been saying there is a problem with the EXP, is that true?


Probably. I haven't found anyone who has been getting EXP today, so either the system glitched when XBOX live came back up because of some change MS made for the NEX, or somebody at bungie went mad with power (Luke) and banned everyone.

  • 09.30.2008 9:08 AM PDT
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I am impressed that Shiska would personally inform people of why they have been banned. Though I think a more efficient solution would be to cite a specific cause in the ban notification.

For example I am exp banned, and I’m not saying there isn’t a reason for it, but I would like to know what that reason is. Otherwise how should I know I’ve done something wrong.

Being able to quit out of a game is an option that Bungie offers, why is using that option a banable offense, why is it called cheating? Refusing to play a certain gametypes doesn’t deserve a ban anymore than changing channels on your tv deserves a suspension of service. If I want something specific that my service provider offers, I should be able to change channels as much as I want to view whatever program is offered.

Also is there some kind of list for ban offenses either numerically or categorically (preferably both) and their correlating punishments, since the system is automated, I’m assuming there is. Can I get that list? I also don’t understand how taking away exp earning is supposed to be an appropriate punishment for the people who are banned for deleveling…

Why have I been banned? How is ban for quitting justified? How is exp restriction an appropriate punishment?

Posted by: Matu Flp Krawfe
Posted by: PhillyEagles20
People who haven't been banned have been saying there is a problem with the EXP, is that true?


Probably. I haven't found anyone who has been getting EXP today, so either the system glitched when XBOX live came back up because of some change MS made for the NEX, or somebody at bungie went mad with power (Luke) and banned everyone.

  • 09.30.2008 9:10 AM PDT

"It's not Luck, It's Skill"

I dont know if i've been exp banned or not.
i'm not gaining exp, but i dont know if it's because live isn't working or if i really did get exp banned, i only quit one game but not for cheating reasons, i just had to leave and didnt have time to finish the game. But i'm not gaining exp, so i'm not sure.

[Edited on 09.30.2008 9:27 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2008 9:16 AM PDT

Ya know what this game needs? A Warthog, with legs.

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ok, i think i may have been banned or lost connection... but i know im not getting xp. are you meant to get a message saying your banned or something. cos i havent and i just want to know. and if so are my on a temporary ban like two week?

  • 09.30.2008 9:16 AM PDT

Bungie you have messed up and need to remove all bans. Everyone boycott halo 3 until the new ban system has been erased. When my ban is up in 2 weeks Fable2, Saints Row 2, and the Halo killer Gears of War 2 will be out. If you want to keep any players at all youll quit being so stupid and banning people for trying for the achievements. I guess you can try to be powerful for a few more weeks anyway. No wonder the movie got canceled, bungie probably wanted to ban Master Chief at the end of it for killing so many people w/o dieing.

  • 09.30.2008 9:16 AM PDT
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OK I just noticed today after the update that I am not gaining any XP. I did not get any message and I am not aware of any cheating or boosting on my part. What's up with that?

  • 09.30.2008 9:19 AM PDT

Posted by: SVC Sith
OK I just noticed today after the update that I am not gaining any XP. I did not get any message and I am not aware of any cheating or boosting on my part. What's up with that?


System fell apart and bungie's probably fixing it with duct tape and bailing wire. No one has been getting EXP today.

One good thing has come out of this, the irony, given the title of this thread, and the fact that bungie, essentially, "exp banned everyone for no raison."

[Edited on 09.30.2008 9:23 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2008 9:21 AM PDT

erm i've won a few games and didnt gain any exp, have i been banned?

  • 09.30.2008 9:23 AM PDT

Posted by: KugArAce93
erm i've won a few games and didnt gain any exp, have i been banned?


No unless, like Santa in Futurama, Bungie's standards have been set too high and now thinks that everyone has been cheating.

  • 09.30.2008 9:23 AM PDT

Hey shishka i havnt been getting any exp and have noticed alot of people who are experiencing the same thing is it cause ive got a ban or because there is a problem after the recent xbox live update?

  • 09.30.2008 9:26 AM PDT
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I emailed Microsoft because I figured it was to do with the update. There is a lot of network issues today, and if they go by quiting for banning then they should come up with a way to detect if it is network difficuties or actually quitting. I got booted twice today from my party because of network difficulties. I guess that makes me a quitter in the eyes of bungie.

  • 09.30.2008 9:30 AM PDT

are we banned ????
no raisson??

iam 41 dutch player play for fun never play false
play every day with friends make new friends





why we get no answer from bungie ............


[Edited on 09.30.2008 9:37 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2008 9:37 AM PDT

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Im not gaining EXP when i win, and I havent gotten any message saying that i have been baned. So Im just wondering whats up, have i been baned or what? Gamertag: Uncle Friendly

  • 09.30.2008 9:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Matu Flp Krawfe
Posted by: SVC Sith
OK I just noticed today after the update that I am not gaining any XP. I did not get any message and I am not aware of any cheating or boosting on my part. What's up with that?


System fell apart and bungie's probably fixing it with duct tape and bailing wire. No one has been getting EXP today.

One good thing has come out of this, the irony, given the title of this thread, and the fact that bungie, essentially, "exp banned everyone for no raison."


Yeah I feel the same, it's such a patronising title. Hopefully this back firing will make them re-consider future threads of this kind.

I'm glad someone else spoke out about this.

  • 09.30.2008 9:50 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Since im back im in for some amusement, anyone not getting exp? chuck your tags my way :)

p.s ill be checking your game history ;)

  • 09.30.2008 9:51 AM PDT
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OK so I played some games with guests accounts. I gained some easy kills and I guess I got EXP from it. But the only reason I done this was to speed up the time of the match because the DLC playlists was producing REGULAR maps.

I admit I am an achievement whore, but I am also a big Halo fan and if you check my games you will see after I get my achievements I got my 50EXP by playing legitimate games of DLC FFA.

Achievement boosting is not a bannable offence in my eyes. Its way to soft, some of the achievements take huge amounts of time and realistically boosting is the only feasible way of getting it. To be punished after spending 600MS on your DLC maps for something so small is extremely poor in my opinion.

I am also frustrated in the fact that Bungie has deliberately set a two week ban some the 6600 people have to play on Novemeber 7th. Our punishment should be the inability to gain EXP,I think blocking our chance to get the achievement I just shocking. I guess the only way they are going to compete with online players on Nov. 7th is by banning them and having an achievement that day (GoW 2 release day, if anyone is wondering)

I guess I will just have to do what I always intended, gets the easy achievements, wait for the 7th of the month, wait for Mythic, never play Halo 3 again and never buy a Bungie product again.

Love, Tattie

[Edited on 09.30.2008 9:59 AM PDT]

  • 09.30.2008 9:55 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: Tattie666
Achievement boosting is not a bannable offence in my eyes.


Bannable offence in bungies eyes is what matters, they created the rules, if you intend to play halo, live by them :D

  • 09.30.2008 9:57 AM PDT