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Subject: The only "omg I gut EXP banned for NO RAISON" thread
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yeah that is true knowing bungie they always delay stuff.... i cant wait for them too relese another trailor for the new campaign

  • 10.02.2008 6:07 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: Mr RaNd0m hEr0
yeah that is true knowing bungie they always delay stuff....


Every business delays their new updates, it builds tension and suspence among their customers

i cant wait for them too relese another trailor for the new campaign

  • 10.02.2008 6:09 AM PDT
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i got the console/gamertag/achievements ban messages. will these bans be taken away after 2 weeks like the first post says or is it just the exp ban that will be taken away ? cuz if i can't get achievements i feel the need to start a class action suit...the only reason i partied with tthe same people for 300 games in a row was so that we could veto non dlc mapshat were showing up in dlc...which as far as i am concerned, and my state is concerned, is illegal - ever hear of consumer protection laws...eg. i purchased dlc so that i could play dlc, they offered me NON DLC AND BLATANTLY CALLED IT DLC, A BOLD FACED LIE. THEN BANNED ME FOR THEIR OWN FAULTS. (here is a simple analogy: ban all firearms in america then go arrest all registered gun owners for possession of illegal weapons)
hmm...someone should not have released the new achievements early....guess that kinda screwed stuff up forcing bungie to pull dlc and then activate the warden...either way, someone at bungie screwed up big and i shouldn't have to pay for it.
if the playlists were fixed, then i wouldnt have partied with the same 8 people for 24 hours straight TRYING DESPERATELY TO GET JUST ONE F K ING MAP WITH ODDBALL ON IT WTFOMGHAXBUNGIE!

fix your -blam!- and quit copping out before it gets legal. your dlc is NOT dlc.

/thanks from all the RIGHT minded thinkers in america.

  • 10.02.2008 6:23 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: amnioticentity
i got the console/gamertag/achievements ban messages. will these bans be taken away after 2 weeks like the first post says or is it just the exp ban that will be taken away ? cuz if i can't get achievements i feel the need to start a class action suit...the only reason i partied with tthe same people for 300 games in a row was so that we could veto non dlc mapshat were showing up in dlc...which as far as i am concerned, and my state is concerned, is illegal - ever hear of consumer protection laws...eg. i purchased dlc so that i could play dlc, they offered me NON DLC AND BLATANTLY CALLED IT DLC, A BOLD FACED LIE. THEN BANNED ME FOR THEIR OWN FAULTS. (here is a simple analogy: ban all firearms in america then go arrest all registered gun owners for possession of illegal weapons)
hmm...someone should not have released the new achievements early....guess that kinda screwed stuff up forcing bungie to pull dlc and then activate the warden...either way, someone at bungie screwed up big and i shouldn't have to pay for it.
if the playlists were fixed, then i wouldnt have partied with the same 8 people for 24 hours straight TRYING DESPERATELY TO GET JUST ONE F K ING MAP WITH ODDBALL ON IT WTFOMGHAXBUNGIE!

fix your -blam!- and quit copping out before it gets legal. your dlc is NOT dlc.

/thanks from all the RIGHT minded thinkers in america.


The ban lasts for 2 weeks, you shouldnt have boosted repeatedly for a 'few' achivements if you didnt want to get banned.



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  • 10.02.2008 6:27 AM PDT

Have a great day

HAHA!! no RAISON is futurama...hilarious!!!

  • 10.02.2008 6:45 AM PDT
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amnioticentity...

Thank you for being the most uninformed person on this board..... You just made my day. You can still play dlc but you don't get EXP for boosting.

[Edited on 10.02.2008 8:25 AM PDT]

  • 10.02.2008 8:24 AM PDT
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Is it true that you get banned for boosting, now? If you see any boosters, what file complaint should you choose?

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  • 10.02.2008 8:28 AM PDT
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this is not true bungie slapped a god damn ban on me in a custom game! i just got the one for killing five people with a mongoose on ghost town(wasnt easy) then i get banned!!!!!!!!!

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  • 10.02.2008 10:25 AM PDT
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ok ive had just about had it.
bungie, the more posts i read and the more thought i put into the more irked i get.
There are probably hundreds if not thousands if your cosumer base who have or will be banned because of you new autobann. And why? Because they wanted to put a few achievements in a UNranked playlist, its not their fault that you tied a player match type into a rank typ Matchmakeing system. Its YOU who allowed people to party up, its YOU that allowed people to bring in guests. What did you expect to happen when you dangled these achievements out there so people will buy you map packs?

By Microsoft and your OWN employees, achievement boosting is not bannable if you are physically playing the game. If achievment boosting were banable well then maby Everyone who used a guide to find all the skulls or even to finish the campain (as there are achievments tied to beating the campain) should be banned. And tht goes for ANY 360 game, not just HALO. Even FRANKIE was once the editor of a magazine that will print articles on how to boost for achievements.

Then you start a thread to address peoples grievences and you rarely reply to them. instead some Chaos Cookie peson is doing your work. Well sir or madam as the case may be, i think you mean well on BUNGIE's behalf but thats like me going into a place of buisiness to air a complaint and some other customer their butts into the business between myself and the business manager.

Now me personally, if i EXP boosted, as the ban implys, what would my motivation be to do so? i had well enough EXP to be a GENERAL but Im not skilled enough to get past a SKILL of 35. It don't matter if i had 600 or 10,000 EXP, it won't do me any good. So why do i care about EXP? I don't . In fact , the more EXP i earn the closer i get those "dreaded gold bars" so i can be a target of strangers' ridicule in MM. (Staff captains, i feel for you, but you have my respect after hearing some of the garbage you have to put up with from some of the ruder members of our community).

So why am i upset with my ban if i dont care about rank or EXP? Because i dont like the fact that now the Autbann has me red flagged for harsher penalties in the future. Now i have to be fearfull of partying up with people i meet or bringing in guests. The 7 on 7 and lightswitch Achievments? I was going to earn those as i progress thru swat or something on my own. I just dont like to be Banned illegitimatly. Nor do i like seeing so many of my fellow community members suffering the same fate when they do not deserve so.

So BUNGIE maby the community needs to bann you temporarily by not buying the MYTHIC maps when they come out. And honestly, that pains me to say that. I realy loved the work you produced over the years. Marathon was there for me on the MAC when it was almost a wastland to find games for it in the 1990's and HALO was the reason i purchased a X-box over a PS2. I stuck with you when so many others would badmouth H3 and move to COD4 or other games, almost everyday for the past year i played H3 if not a couple games in MM then campain , which i love by the way.

I truely hope you properly address this in fridays update. To my fellow brothers and sisters who were banned because you were trying to get achievements or even a godforsaken oddball match, hang in there and dont take this lying down. It is BUNGIE who is at fault here, not you
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Please forgive any typos.


peace, be kind to your fellow players, they might be your neighbor.

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  • 10.02.2008 10:25 AM PDT

Thanks for that, I've been getting increasingly more frustrated with this situation. It's nice to see someone else feels the same.

  • 10.02.2008 10:42 AM PDT
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thank you.

another thought, although i never aked for help on the lonewolves achievements, i respect those who are brave enough to ask for help in a room full of strangers. it does take take some guts to posably set yourself for verbal abuse.I usually try to help them if i can , even when i dont have a mic on. Ive even helped Generals get mongoose mowdown or overkills. And made friends for doing so.

Sorry for ramblling on, i just got off of working all night with these thoughts in my head.

  • 10.02.2008 10:54 AM PDT

does rumble pit stuff cause bans? or that legal officer?

  • 10.02.2008 10:58 AM PDT
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i have been banned. And i don't deny thaty in a game of big team DLC when someone says 'wanna get the splatter spree achievment' i don't say no. But the 'ban' has lasted about three weeks for me. I can understand the ban and it is a good idea but i don't see why i have the xp ban for so long.

  • 10.02.2008 11:08 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Its YOU who allowed people to party up, its YOU that allowed people to bring in guests.

And its YOU whom decided to boost these achivements.

If achievment boosting were banable well then maby Everyone who used a guide to find all the skulls or even to finish the campain (as there are achievments tied to beating the campain) should be banned.

Guides are not bannable, BOOSTING is. A guide to the skulls is helping the community to find these skulls or give them clues, BOOSTING for achivements is not helping anyone but yourselves.

So why do i care about EXP? I don't .

Then theres no need to exp boost is there...

It is BUNGIE who is at fault here, not you

They didnt say 'Go boost all the achivements/skill levels/exp YOU did.

Something to add, please, make my day!

  • 10.02.2008 11:19 AM PDT
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  • 10.02.2008 11:21 AM PDT

Cookie, I'm not quite sure what your role in this matter is, but thus far, your responses have not been useful (except your undying willingness to explain that the EXP system was down over, and over, and over... when there is clearly an update on the main page regarding that issue). No one is addressing the simple fact that large numbers of Bungie's community feel betrayed by this -blam!--like harshness the banhammer has bestowed to people who just love to play Halo 3. The banhammer is swift and merciless, however, it it not JUST. This is just a sad display of cowardice and abuse.

Hey Shishka, how'd you get your Maybe Next Time Buddy? It says you earned it on October 5, 2007, yet none of your games on that day (or early in the 6th) show any Highjacker medals. Figure that one out Cookie. Make MY day.

  • 10.02.2008 11:35 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: ghostworm
Cookie, I'm not quite sure what your role in this matter is, but thus far, your responses have not been useful (except your undying willingness to explain that the EXP system was down over, and over, and over... when there is clearly an update on the main page regarding that issue). No one is addressing the simple fact that large numbers of Bungie's community feel betrayed by this -blam!--like harshness the banhammer has bestowed to people who just love to play Halo 3. The banhammer is swift and merciless, however, it it not JUST. This is just a sad display of cowardice and abuse.

Hey Shishka, how'd you get your Maybe Next Time Buddy? It says you earned it on October 5, 2007, yet none of your games on that day (or early in the 6th) show any Highjacker medals. Figure that one out Cookie. Make MY day.


My responses are answers and nothing else.

The community shouldnt feel betrayed, they should feel justified for boosting, did I boost, no, i dont feel betrayed, nothings happened to me, and nothings happened to my friends whom i play with.

Note, towards Shishka's achievement

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=286268 88&player=Shishka

Ya, now what buddy?

[Edited on 10.02.2008 11:47 AM PDT]

  • 10.02.2008 11:46 AM PDT
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cookie, im not sure if your a bungie employee or just a someone trying to get on bungie's pet list but these grievences are toward BUNGIE not you. Your remarks do not help BUNGIE in public relations. i would suggest you let BUNGIE speak for themselves on this matter.
the achievements earned by the methods used by the poeple banned are NOT a BANNABLE offense as stated by SCETCHFACTOR in the FAQ update sticky and by MICROSOFT- the maker of the console, the creater of the ACHIEVEMENT system, and HALO's publisher. Check your facts before you condemm people.

[Edited on 10.02.2008 11:57 AM PDT]

  • 10.02.2008 11:54 AM PDT

What now is that spread is from a different day than his achievement-earned date.

Aside from that, I have done nothing that warrants a ban. I'm an honest person, I don't cheat at ANY game. I did what the game allowed me to do. I did not hack, mod, or manipulate a host connection or anything like that. I wouldn't do anything like that EVER. If you have read my previous posts from this thread and still continue to think it appropriate to dispatch your "you deserve it" rhetoric, it only becomes clear that you're not concerned with the issue, merely backing Bungie up. It's a nice thing you're doing, but don't get overzealous. I haven't done anything to you personally, please don't take my statements as an attack on you, I want this thread to be focused and informative. I want the ISSUE to be addressed. I want a response from Bungie telling me that they have at least paid attention to my grievances and not just let loose one of their minions loose to repeat that I am guilty. Please read my previous posts if you have not.

  • 10.02.2008 12:10 PM PDT
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Cookie is just helping out. I don't see it as doing anyone's work. If I have time, I may do the same thing. Also, if this thread went solely as it has been meant to, then it'd be 100% about people trying to get out of bans and others not knowing why they've been banned.

There would be no posts about the exp system being down, or anything of the like.

I applaud Cookie for looking through different people's game histories and finding things. That does make it less work for anyone at Bungie to try to filter through things. Such as, there's one person whom asked and Cookie couldn't find any reason to them being banned. (I think. If I remember. If I'm wrong, I'll go through and edit this, to make it correct.) That case should be looked into by someone (Shiska).

There are ways to still boost and not get banned, but I'm not gonna tempt said hammer to swing in my direction. It'd still be boosting.

Anyone claiming that there's been no real warnings, is just looking for an easy excuse. Back when that one guy got 1,000's of exp for doing that exp exploit for team doubles (or something) way back in October (or sometime around there. within the first 3 months anyhow) and got banned, I knew that they were serious about banning people. I kinda disappeared from halo for a while, and went and played other games. I didn't keep up to date on things, but now that I'm back, I have read and read. I would like a complete list of all things that can get you banned. Not a guide, but a complete list. Each different type of infraction that could result in a ban. That way, I won't get banned. Not for finding a loophole, but for making sure that I don't accidentally do something.

Again, Cookie is doing nothing wrong. Making things easier to sift through for actual cases for them to look into why someone was banned. Also, I'm not sure what Shiska does (due to me being out of the community for a while), but doing anything to make it easier on Bungie may result in a slightly swifter fix to the exp problems we have. I say, continue on as you're doing.

If anyone wants to go through mine, you can. Got nothing to hide.

I think for people who have been banned, they should get a special mark on their name. In the lobby, how we can have the 7th column symbol, have the spot to the left reserved for the "Mark of Shame" which was branded on the Arbiter at the beginning of Halo 2. Those who have been banned will have that on their name in the lobby, even after the ban is lifted. Just an idea.

I know, this post is kinda off topic, but some others are as well. I've been following this, and so far there is one potential case of the banhammer hitting someone innocent. Maybe they are, maybe not.

I may be joining in on sifting through, not for reward, not to suck up to anyone, but to answer why someone has been banned and to make it easier on Bungie, so they can focus on other things. If you've been banned and know you deserve it, please don't even attempt to waste their time. If unsure or think you've wrongly been banned, my suggestion is to first go through your game history and see if you can find anything. If it's not too late, save your game films and watch them. If you've been wrongly banned, try providing them as proof. Although, most likely, if you play honestly, you won't get banned.

Sorry, just me kinda rambling on. If there's a possibility of any reward, please don't. If I could be blacklisted (not sure what it entitles, but heard the term a few times) and get blacklisted, so be it. If I get banned, so be it. As long as I deserve punishment, then I don't have a problem. If I do what I feel is right, then no reward. I'm starting to be part of the community again, and more so than in the past. I'm just starting here.

Good idea about making this thread in the first place. I'm hoping it'll now become what it is supposed to be.

Note: This post is not biased in any way. I'm just saying what I feel, and what has gone through my mind since I got home today.

  • 10.02.2008 12:16 PM PDT
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good post whitedragon, intelligent and i see your point.

i dont deny that those who ranked or EXP boosted deserve to be banned, I ve never intentionally done that nor care to bother. I just debate the banning of those who partied up those get the achievements.
i dont know , i kinda think then maby bungie should have never tied EXP/ RANK into social or playermatch MM.

[Edited on 10.02.2008 12:29 PM PDT]

  • 10.02.2008 12:28 PM PDT

I have been baned and i am innocent for boosting exp and i have been playing halo for awhile but i was boosting in rumble pit and i didn't know you could get banned for boosting exp because it let me and my friend sign in with our guests at a maximum of six players and with the new ranking system we just boosted i don't want to criticize bungie but why would they let you go in rumble pit with the max players set at 6 with guests but yes i know they weren't real people playing but i didn't know you could get banned for it because we weren't hurting anyone from earning exp it was just our guests who can't get exp anyway. I would like it if you could answer my question that would be nice so please don't ban me anymore than i have been baned because im arguing.

  • 10.02.2008 12:32 PM PDT

I agree, good post Whitedragon. Seeing more comments like this is easing my frustration.

  • 10.02.2008 12:34 PM PDT
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why was i ban i wasnt play halo 3 during that time my little brother join a party to get achievements i call him to leave the party before they started cause i knew it might be count as cheating but didnt listen know i am sufering unban please

  • 10.02.2008 12:39 PM PDT
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i dont know how to link a quote but scetchfactor said that achievement boosting is not somthing bungie can/will punish you for. maby i could get some help. its in the first page of TU2 FAQ sticky in the bungie news forum.

UMM i hope Shishka isnt swinging that hammer at Sketch for making that statement. he dose seem like a nice guy.

[Edited on 10.02.2008 12:55 PM PDT]

  • 10.02.2008 12:45 PM PDT