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Bobbets.

Posted by: GUNSMOKEPHO3NIX
Posted by: Shishka
Posted by: dragonbile
i got an exp ban and to my knowledge i havnt done anything to deserve it . i do play with guest a lot and they always get much lower scores than me and i almost always beat them. but this isnt boosting as the guests r trying. why have i been banned?


First off, congratulations on being the first person to post in this thread that isn't immediately eligible for a two week blacklisting from the forums.

Second:
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754443 480&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754445 826&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754446 706&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754449 508&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754450 933&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754453 777&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754455 139&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754457 811&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754461 192&player=dragonbile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754464 369&player=dragonbile

Your ban is, without a doubt, completely justified.
Thats the stupidest excuse for banning someone i have ever seen. Just because he was playing with alot of guests and YOUR matchmaking system didnt always find them other people to play with them??? Even for you shishka, this is low.


This is how people boost, they get guests into a lone wolves match with them, so they always win and can get achievements.

  • 10.08.2008 9:15 AM PDT

If there is something wrong with achievement or EXP boosting in social matches, then why are they there? Just make it games with no exp to gain. Something that people can go in and mess around with random players. Or maybe there should be a 'custom game' playlist that you can search for random players. That might be interesting, no?

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Posted by: Alpha A02

What is next? Officially making it illegal to camp a spot in a map? Its in the game, its not a programming error. Its not a perfect arguement but in most minds that would be considered legit.

Being a part of a game doesn't mean they have to get any points. Nor does the lack of points mean they aren't enjoying the game.


Very good points. The camping point is very relevant and I hope never happens.

If what I am reading throughout the forums is true, people can be banned in non-ranked games because of guests that earn no points (or leave the controller alone). To ban people for using multiple controllers and having guests in the game that don't play according to Bungie's rules is simply ridiculous. Bungie, why don't you just eliminate earning achievements in non-ranked games? I mean honestly, why even go there? Why give the players the option to "cheat" to get them in the first place in games that don't matter? They are simply for fun, not truly serious because of the inclusion of guests. Heck, if someone has 3 people playing they can have a 2 year old, a 95 year old, and a dog playing. A guest is a guest and unless you lay down rules beforehand and have people agree to them, it is very unfair to punish. It's some really uncool temptations and unfair to ban people from playing the way they want to play.

Ranked games are totally different. That word rank alone sets the game apart from all of the others. There are rules, limits, etc. that must be upheld for the competitive nature of the game to stay true. But it is a different situation when you have buddies over to play. I still don't fully understand the whole boosting/cheating thing (see my post above) but from what I do gather I think it might be you Bungie being somewhat shortsighted to again create the situations in these non-ranked games (by allowing guests) and banning people from just having fun. Let me be clear once more, I understand for ranked games, but for fun???

I think it is lame that gamers need to sit all 3 of their guests down before the game, show them a power point slide on what is cheating, and to have all of them sign a contract in blood that forbids them from going to the bathroom, drinking, eating, or anything else that may result in the controller being left alone for any duration of time. Because, if what I am reading is true, people are getting banned for having controllers left alone (which anyone with common sense knows that the opponents will take advantage of that situation), and to simply quit if one person needs to use the restroom is bannable also!

I do understand that people cheat and I do despise them. I think there should be action taken and I am glad that you guys do just that. Butt what I don't understand is why you didn't lay this all out in advance. I sound like a broken record here but I want to be sure that you guys get what I am saying. Why don't you make an update 3 and simply add in Terms Of Use? Why not have a FAQ page that details everything in that Terms Of Use? Why not remove the achievements in games that aren't ranked? Why not give a warning with an explanation first before the "warning" ban? Why not give people who made an honest mistake an understanding of what they did? Why not educate instead of eliminate?

  • 10.08.2008 9:44 AM PDT

Hear me. Believe me. Fear Me

Holy crap...I want for Luminous Orange and anyone else that agrees that having a few extra controllers plugged in to get achievements that Bungie said could be achieved in a non-ranked gametype to add me asa friend LoL. I mean I am not disturbing anyone by doing it...and they allowded me to do it when they made the achievements available in unranked rooms. Just because some people can't afford extra controllers...don't hate lol. If bungie was that concerned with this problem...then they would have stayed with the original halo 3 achievements and made them ranked only achievements. It's just illogical to say that people are cheating to get them...when bungie knew that people were going to be doing this kind of stuff anyway

  • 10.08.2008 9:53 AM PDT

I just bought my xbox used and there's an exp ban on it. The guy that sold it to me explained that he got it for quitting matches too many times or something. I was hoping theres some way for me to appeal the ban or find out how much longer there is on it,

  • 10.08.2008 10:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Aesynne
I just bought my xbox used and there's an exp ban on it. The guy that sold it to me explained that he got it for quitting matches too many times or something. I was hoping theres some way for me to appeal the ban or find out how much longer there is on it,



yeaaaaaah right, why did u bought it in the first place?

  • 10.08.2008 10:24 AM PDT

Plekpedia - The most epic site in the history of ever.

This thread cracks me up.....

  • 10.08.2008 11:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Luminous Orange
Posted by: Alpha A02

What is next? Officially making it illegal to camp a spot in a map? Its in the game, its not a programming error. Its not a perfect arguement but in most minds that would be considered legit.

Being a part of a game doesn't mean they have to get any points. Nor does the lack of points mean they aren't enjoying the game.


Very good points. The camping point is very relevant and I hope never happens.

If what I am reading throughout the forums is true, people can be banned in non-ranked games because of guests that earn no points (or leave the controller alone). To ban people for using multiple controllers and having guests in the game that don't play according to Bungie's rules is simply ridiculous. Bungie, why don't you just eliminate earning achievements in non-ranked games? I mean honestly, why even go there? Why give the players the option to "cheat" to get them in the first place in games that don't matter? They are simply for fun, not truly serious because of the inclusion of guests. Heck, if someone has 3 people playing they can have a 2 year old, a 95 year old, and a dog playing. A guest is a guest and unless you lay down rules beforehand and have people agree to them, it is very unfair to punish. It's some really uncool temptations and unfair to ban people from playing the way they want to play.

Ranked games are totally different. That word rank alone sets the game apart from all of the others. There are rules, limits, etc. that must be upheld for the competitive nature of the game to stay true. But it is a different situation when you have buddies over to play. I still don't fully understand the whole boosting/cheating thing (see my post above) but from what I do gather I think it might be you Bungie being somewhat shortsighted to again create the situations in these non-ranked games (by allowing guests) and banning people from just having fun. Let me be clear once more, I understand for ranked games, but for fun???

I think it is lame that gamers need to sit all 3 of their guests down before the game, show them a power point slide on what is cheating, and to have all of them sign a contract in blood that forbids them from going to the bathroom, drinking, eating, or anything else that may result in the controller being left alone for any duration of time. Because, if what I am reading is true, people are getting banned for having controllers left alone (which anyone with common sense knows that the opponents will take advantage of that situation), and to simply quit if one person needs to use the restroom is bannable also!

I do understand that people cheat and I do despise them. I think there should be action taken and I am glad that you guys do just that. Butt what I don't understand is why you didn't lay this all out in advance. I sound like a broken record here but I want to be sure that you guys get what I am saying. Why don't you make an update 3 and simply add in Terms Of Use? Why not have a FAQ page that details everything in that Terms Of Use? Why not remove the achievements in games that aren't ranked? Why not give a warning with an explanation first before the "warning" ban? Why not give people who made an honest mistake an understanding of what they did? Why not educate instead of eliminate?


Let's get a few things straight. Cases where people "leave their controller to go to the bathroom" don't happen. It's an excuse people who broke the rules use in frustration to try and justify their actions, claim innocence, and make the big mean company who banned them the enemy.

Actual innocence in this is slim to nill. Barely a handful in a sea of cheaters. No one said their wouldn't be casualties in the wake of the Banhammer's war on jerks. Almost none of the people who have whined on this forum are innocent. It's pretty easy to tell them apart. One, actual innocents are almost non-existant. Two, cheaters are marked quite clearly by level of frustration, immaturity, and attempts to look like a victim.

Learn this: you got what you desreved. You are not a victim, and you will not be given lenience or reparation. You are not great in number. You have no power. You and your angry fellow cheaters have no sway in anything, you can say or do whatever you want and you will not change or damage Halo 3 or it's creators in any way. Your opinion on the issue means nothing. You don't get to decide what is right or wrong in the game, Bungie does. Stop trying to get an edge illegitimately. Just play the game and try to get better. If you don't like it, don't play. But you lose on this deal. They already have your money, you are the one who misses out. Their are still millions of other fans who still love and support the game, it's company, and any future projects. Your number, anger, and opinion are all equal to squat.

Bottom line is: you broke the rules. You did something you know is unfair, and claim ignorance in a weak attempt to look like the victim. Cheaters get what they deserve.

[Edited on 10.08.2008 12:00 PM PDT]

  • 10.08.2008 11:13 AM PDT

Posted by: JobeTheConqueror
Posted by: Luminous Orange
Posted by: Alpha A02

What is next? Officially making it illegal to camp a spot in a map? Its in the game, its not a programming error. Its not a perfect arguement but in most minds that would be considered legit.

Being a part of a game doesn't mean they have to get any points. Nor does the lack of points mean they aren't enjoying the game.


Very good points. The camping point is very relevant and I hope never happens.

If what I am reading throughout the forums is true, people can be banned in non-ranked games because of guests that earn no points (or leave the controller alone). To ban people for using multiple controllers and having guests in the game that don't play according to Bungie's rules is simply ridiculous. Bungie, why don't you just eliminate earning achievements in non-ranked games? I mean honestly, why even go there? Why give the players the option to "cheat" to get them in the first place in games that don't matter? They are simply for fun, not truly serious because of the inclusion of guests. Heck, if someone has 3 people playing they can have a 2 year old, a 95 year old, and a dog playing. A guest is a guest and unless you lay down rules beforehand and have people agree to them, it is very unfair to punish. It's some really uncool temptations and unfair to ban people from playing the way they want to play.

Ranked games are totally different. That word rank alone sets the game apart from all of the others. There are rules, limits, etc. that must be upheld for the competitive nature of the game to stay true. But it is a different situation when you have buddies over to play. I still don't fully understand the whole boosting/cheating thing (see my post above) but from what I do gather I think it might be you Bungie being somewhat shortsighted to again create the situations in these non-ranked games (by allowing guests) and banning people from just having fun. Let me be clear once more, I understand for ranked games, but for fun???

I think it is lame that gamers need to sit all 3 of their guests down before the game, show them a power point slide on what is cheating, and to have all of them sign a contract in blood that forbids them from going to the bathroom, drinking, eating, or anything else that may result in the controller being left alone for any duration of time. Because, if what I am reading is true, people are getting banned for having controllers left alone (which anyone with common sense knows that the opponents will take advantage of that situation), and to simply quit if one person needs to use the restroom is bannable also!

I do understand that people cheat and I do despise them. I think there should be action taken and I am glad that you guys do just that. Butt what I don't understand is why you didn't lay this all out in advance. I sound like a broken record here but I want to be sure that you guys get what I am saying. Why don't you make an update 3 and simply add in Terms Of Use? Why not have a FAQ page that details everything in that Terms Of Use? Why not remove the achievements in games that aren't ranked? Why not give a warning with an explanation first before the "warning" ban? Why not give people who made an honest mistake an understanding of what they did? Why not educate instead of eliminate?


Let's get a few things straight. Cases where people "leave their controller to go to the bathroom" don't happen. It's an excuse people who broke the rules use in frustration to try and justify their actions, claim innocence, and make the big mean company who banned them the enemy.

Actual innocence in this is slim to nill. Barely a handful in a sea of cheaters. No one said their wouldn't be casualties in the wake of the Banhammer's war on jerks. Almost none of the people who have whined on this forum are innocent. It's pretty easy to tell them apart. One, actual innocents are almost non-existant. Two, cheaters are marked quite clearly by level of frustration, immaturity, and attempts to look like a victim.

Learn this: you got what you desreved. You are not a victim, and you will not be given lenience or reparation. You are not great in number. You have no power. You and your angry fellow cheaters have no sway in anything, you can say or do whatever you want and you will not change or damage Halo 3 or it's creators in any way. Your opinion on the issue means nothing. You don't get to decide what is right or wrong in the game, Bungie does. Stop trying to get an edge illegitimately. Just play the game and try to get better. If you don't like it, don't play. But you lose on this deal. They already have your money, you are the one who misses out. Their are still millions of other fans who still love and support the game, it's company, and any future projects. Your number, anger, and opinion are all equal to squat.

Bottom line is: you broke the rules. You did something you know is unfair, and claim ignorance in a weak attempt to look like the victim. Cheaters get


Pownage.

And to add to this point. Bungie has made it quite clear on several ocassions that one of the main features associated with the mighty banhammer is that it can accurately detect wether or not a controller(s) is being used during a match or just sitting idol. Which means that stats such as player movement, the picking up of weapons, shots fired etc. are closely monitored and therefore used as a means to determine the severity of the potentially bannable act. There is nothing unjust about what is being done here so to all whom have felt the swift hand of justice that has reigned down upon them just suck it up and make sure that you never do it again. Man I cannot wait for the next banhammer to come into effect. The forums will surely be flooded with plenty of entertaining threads such as this one.

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Posted by: JobeTheConqueror
Let's get a few things straight. Cases where people "leave their controller to go to the bathroom" don't happen. It's an excuse people who broke the rules use in frustration to try and justify their actions, claim innocence, and make the big mean company who banned them the enemy.

Actual innocence in this is slim to nill. Barely a handful in a sea of cheaters. No one said their wouldn't be casualties in the wake of the Banhammer's war on jerks. Almost none of the people who have whined on this forum are innocent. It's pretty easy to tell them apart. One, actual innocents are almost non-existant. Two, cheaters are marked quite clearly by level of frustration, immaturity, and attempts to look like a victim.

Learn this: you got what you desreved. You are not a victim, and you will not be given lenience or reparation. You are not great in number. You have no power. You and your angry fellow cheaters have no sway in anything, you can say or do whatever you want and you will not change or damage Halo 3 or it's creators in any way. Your opinion on the issue means nothing. You don't get to decide what is right or wrong in the game, Bungie does. Stop trying to get an edge illegitimately. Just play the game and try to get better. If you don't like it, don't play. But you lose on this deal. They already have your money, you are the one who misses out. Their are still millions of other fans who still love and support the game, it's company, and any future projects. Your number, anger, and opinion are all equal to squat.

Bottom line is: you broke the rules. You did something you know is unfair, and claim ignorance in a weak attempt to look like the victim. Cheaters get


Good points.

I myself am here to learn about what is going on with the game. I have not cheated and if you read my previous posts, you would realize that I am more confused on what is actually cheating than anything else. The reason? Why am I confused? Because that description isn't stated anywhere, and all I can get is some posts about it on this site. Nothing clear cut set in stone. That is my point. I understand what you are saying about the cheaters and I can't agree more with you, and yes it is Bungie's game and they are the ones in charge. I get all that and agree. And I can't agree with you more about those who have abused the game and come here acting like they are the victims. That is a fact and those people should be eliminated from planet Earth.

But my biggest issue is that Bungie seems to be going about this the wrong way. Sure that is totally subjective and I am saying that in my own opinion much like you reply was all your own opinion. But for them to try and educate the people instead of just eliminating them, to me, seems like a better thing to do. Like I said, maybe Bungie should simply create a lengthy TOU that will appear on a new update that must be accepted prior to playing H3 online (blizzard does this for every update in World of Warcraft for example). In there state what cheating is and the punishment for it. What will that do? That will give EVERYONE a fair warning ahead of time and will at least help your statement of "No one said their wouldn't be casualties in the wake of the Banhammer's war on jerks". People would at least know what is happening instead of making a mistake and it would be their bad for not reading it.

I am not defending anyone that is cheating, nor do I advocate cheating. I know that 99.999999999...% of those in this thread are here to try and get out of something that they intentionally did. I just want a fair game and a fun game to play online. When innocent people are those "casualties", that to me eliminates both that fairness and fun. That quote, "As long as it isn't in my backyard" is true. If it was you being one of those truthful casualties, I am sure that you would be looking it from another angle. It is all based on empathy. Screw those who are not genuine, but look at the ones that got screwed and will get screwed because they simply did not know.

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Pownage.

And to add to this point. Bungie has made it quite clear on several ocassions that one of the main features associated with the mighty banhammer is that it can accurately detect wether or not a controller(s) is being used during a match or just sitting idol. Which means that stats such as player movement, the picking up of weapons, shots fired etc. are closely monitored and therefore used as a means to determine the severity of the potentially bannable act. There is nothing unjust about what is being done here so to all whom have felt the swift hand of justice that has reigned down upon them just suck it up and make sure that you never do it again. Man I cannot wait for the next banhammer to come into effect. The forums will surely be flooded with plenty of entertaining threads such as this one.


Isn't is Pwnage?

Before you reply, you might want to actually read the original posts. You are right about threads being entertaining, and it is even more entertaining when you read people's responses that are way off target. Just some advice, because in that you would realize that I am not here to complain about me getting banned since I have not been banned, nor do I anticipate that I will ever receive a ban.

I am here on this thread to toss around some points that may or may not have been thought of/been discussed. If you read my original post, you would quickly realize that I am here to be EDUCATED on what is boosting, what is cheating, what I may do to receive a ban. I Thank you for stating

it can accurately detect wether or not a controller(s) is being used during a match or just sitting idol. Which means that stats such as player movement, the picking up of weapons, shots fired etc. are closely monitored and therefore used as a means to determine the severity of the potentially bannable act.

You have enlightened me on what that is all about. From reading all the posts, I have seriously been fearful of playing online. I have no desire to get a ban and want to make sure that I know all the rules before I play. I just was trying to find all that out ahead of time for my own benefit and to help some of my friends also by informing them just in case they were even possibly thinking about doing something as lame and stupid as cheating, or to make sure they don't get themselves in that position on accident.

  • 10.08.2008 11:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Luminous Orange
Posted by: JobeTheConqueror
Let's get a few things straight. Cases where people "leave their controller to go to the bathroom" don't happen. It's an excuse people who broke the rules use in frustration to try and justify their actions, claim innocence, and make the big mean company who banned them the enemy.

Actual innocence in this is slim to nill. Barely a handful in a sea of cheaters. No one said their wouldn't be casualties in the wake of the Banhammer's war on jerks. Almost none of the people who have whined on this forum are innocent. It's pretty easy to tell them apart. One, actual innocents are almost non-existant. Two, cheaters are marked quite clearly by level of frustration, immaturity, and attempts to look like a victim.

Learn this: you got what you desreved. You are not a victim, and you will not be given lenience or reparation. You are not great in number. You have no power. You and your angry fellow cheaters have no sway in anything, you can say or do whatever you want and you will not change or damage Halo 3 or it's creators in any way. Your opinion on the issue means nothing. You don't get to decide what is right or wrong in the game, Bungie does. Stop trying to get an edge illegitimately. Just play the game and try to get better. If you don't like it, don't play. But you lose on this deal. They already have your money, you are the one who misses out. Their are still millions of other fans who still love and support the game, it's company, and any future projects. Your number, anger, and opinion are all equal to squat.

Bottom line is: you broke the rules. You did something you know is unfair, and claim ignorance in a weak attempt to look like the victim. Cheaters get


Good points.

I myself am here to learn about what is going on with the game. I have not cheated and if you read my previous posts, you would realize that I am more confused on what is actually cheating than anything else. The reason? Why am I confused? Because that description isn't stated anywhere, and all I can get is some posts about it on this site. Nothing clear cut set in stone. That is my point. I understand what you are saying about the cheaters and I can't agree more with you, and yes it is Bungie's game and they are the ones in charge. I get all that and agree. And I can't agree with you more about those who have abused the game and come here acting like they are the victims. That is a fact and those people should be eliminated from planet Earth.

But my biggest issue is that Bungie seems to be going about this the wrong way. Sure that is totally subjective and I am saying that in my own opinion much like you reply was all your own opinion. But for them to try and educate the people instead of just eliminating them, to me, seems like a better thing to do. Like I said, maybe Bungie should simply create a lengthy TOU that will appear on a new update that must be accepted prior to playing H3 online (blizzard does this for every update in World of Warcraft for example). In there state what cheating is and the punishment for it. What will that do? That will give EVERYONE a fair warning ahead of time and will at least help your statement of "No one said their wouldn't be casualties in the wake of the Banhammer's war on jerks". People would at least know what is happening instead of making a mistake and it would be their bad for not reading it.

I am not defending anyone that is cheating, nor do I advocate cheating. I know that 99.999999999...% of those in this thread are here to try and get out of something that they intentionally did. I just want a fair game and a fun game to play online. When innocent people are those "casualties", that to me eliminates both that fairness and fun. That quote, "As long as it isn't in my backyard" is true. If it was you being one of those truthful casualties, I am sure that you would be looking it from another angle. It is all based on empathy. Screw those who are not genuine, but look at the ones that got screwed and will get screwed because they simply did not know.


I can only agree with you on one point. Due to the innate whining of cheaters, perhaps there should be an FAQ of some kind up to give more detail on what cheating is other than what is said at http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?link=H3Bans.

There is a problem with that. As helpful as they may or may not be, it is not even addressing the problem. Ignorance of cheating is not the problem, nor is it an excuse. Even with as dumb as people that play Halo 3 have proved to be, even at that level of stupid, you still know what is cheating, what is trying to get an advantage over other players outside of just playing and being good at the game. Ignorance of what is cheating is pathetic, used as an excuse by those who know they are guilty of it but can't handle the consequences and shame.

Let's say they did make a detailed FAQ of all that is currently considered cheating. Are they expected to update this thing in detail every other week when some idiot kid comes up with some other glitch or exploit? That is ridiculous. It is pandering to cheaters who shouldn't be allowed in game play as it is.

  • 10.08.2008 12:12 PM PDT

ok so if this is the first time i got banned from exp, but i played quite a few games in one night i'm still only banned for 2 weeks right?

  • 10.08.2008 12:18 PM PDT

thank you for this information. I think you should make social playlists to where you can only have the number of people on your team inyour party to help stop it

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Posted by: JobeTheConqueror
I can only agree with you on one point. Due to the innate whining of cheaters, perhaps there should be an FAQ of some kind up to give more detail on what cheating is other than what is said at http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?link=H3Bans.

There is a problem with that. As helpful as they may or may not be, it is not even addressing the problem. Ignorance of cheating is not the problem, nor is it an excuse. Even with as dumb as people that play Halo 3 have proved to be, even at that level of stupid, you still know what is cheating, what is trying to get an advantage over other players outside of just playing and being good at the game. Ignorance of what is cheating is pathetic, used as an excuse by those who know they are guilty of it but can't handle the consequences and shame.

Let's say they did make a detailed FAQ of all that is currently considered cheating. Are they expected to update this thing in detail every other week when some idiot kid comes up with some other glitch or exploit? That is ridiculous. It is pandering to cheaters who shouldn't be allowed in game play as it is.


You make a lot of sense. I didn't even think about people coming up with new exploits and how it would constantly need to be revised. And you are right about how players have/will use that ignorance and that is why I thought of a possible remedy. Maybe Bungie can come up with a solution for the flaw you mentioned. Anyway, props to you on a great post and that good link.

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  • 10.08.2008 12:30 PM PDT

I was recently banned but believe i am innocent...I never even knew what boosting was before i got the message. My friend just said it would be fun to get some killtaculars in matchmaking and i got in trouble for it :'(. Please...i didnt even need any of the achievements and i dont care about my exp....help

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I've got a really bad idea.

Posted by: SilentSurfer7
I was recently banned but believe i am innocent...I never even knew what boosting was before i got the message.
Ignorance of the rules doesn't excuse you.

Posted by: SilentSurfer7
i dont care about my exp....help
Then why do you care about being EXP banned?
Edit: If you're MM banned, then it wasn't a first offense and the care factor will be below zero.

[Edited on 10.08.2008 1:18 PM PDT]

  • 10.08.2008 1:17 PM PDT
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hello, first i am sorry but i french so mi english is not good :), so one week ago i play on social slayer and i have got 2message, the fisrt is "i am not winn exp for one week" and a second is "my xbox don't have the right winn exp" !!! so my question is WHY, i not cheat !!!! and i want winn exp, i phone who ? bungie ? you have a number ?
very thank you.

  • 10.08.2008 1:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Idomis
Posted by: SilentSurfer7
I was recently banned but believe i am innocent...I never even knew what boosting was before i got the message.
Ignorance of the rules doesn't excuse you.

Posted by: SilentSurfer7
i dont care about my exp....help
Then why do you care about being EXP banned?
Edit: If you're MM banned, then it wasn't a first offense and the care factor will be below zero.


I dont care too much about my exp but i do care about ahcievements, and this prevented me from getting the 7 on 7 thing. Btw, whats MM banned, and this was my first offense, even though it shouldn't be...i got all of my achievements fairly before and this is the first time I've ever heard of boosting.

  • 10.08.2008 1:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Alpha A02
Stop whining about how people are being innovative,creative, and not playing the game how you intended them to. Its not your game.
*Buzz* Wrong.

They bought it. Noone gets to tell me how to sit on my furniture. Its my furniture my style of sitting.You have unusual notions about what you're allowed to do with your "property." You purchased a licensed copy - you don't own anything about Halo 3 save perhaps an appreciation for it and the physical media. Having accepted a legally sound EULA and/or TOS (or several), you pretty much give up all rights to claim that you can do whatever you want.

And just so we're perfectly clear on consumer rights here, none of the things like "free speech," "freedom of expression," or "the right to assemble [and do bloody nothing in MatchMaking]" exist on Live (or these forums), so I hereby preemptively strike down your anti-The Man rebuttal.


when you copy write something you don't get to make ammendments to it at a later date just because and especially unofficial. I'm not talking about hacking the game data and making scarabs guns available or what have you

it is also not a glitch. Its breaking no rules in the game license. Its simply doing something bungie doesn't want done.

Your comment on how i give up all rights to do what i please is bogus. that is like saying that Grand theft auto has a car in the game. but they post on the website that they don't want you to use it because it doesn't drive realisticly in comparison with other vehicles.

and the post above you... You have nothing to back up your claim. its not even an arguement. I do have the right to. I can do it. I have the controllers. I have paid for live. There is a gametype that allows it. But as far as that go we forced noone to play us. we had a full party so noone wanting compettive gameplay got harmed. And I'm not claiming innoccents anyway.

  • 10.08.2008 1:42 PM PDT
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I've got a really bad idea.

Posted by: Alpha A02
when you copy write something you don't get to make ammendments to it at a later date just because and especially unofficial. I'm not talking about hacking the game data and making scarabs guns available or what have you
Yes, you are entirely allowed to make amendments to it at a later date. EULAs are updated frequently.

Posted by: Alpha A02
it is also not a glitch. Its breaking no rules in the game license. Its simply doing something bungie doesn't want done.
And Bungie, as proprietor of the MM system, has the right to deny you that service for any reason they can construe, including abusing in-game systems which you agreed not to do in the XBL TOS/EULA.

Posted by: Alpha A02
Your comment on how i give up all rights to do what i please is bogus.
If bogus means true in your language, then you might be correct.

Posted by: Alpha A02
Your comment on how i give up all rights to do what i please is bogus. that is like saying that Grand theft auto has a car in the game. but they post on the website that they don't want you to use it because it doesn't drive realisticly in comparison with other vehicles.
Using equally questionable logic, I can conclude that because you haven't explicitly expressed your bedroom preferences, you must be a dendrophiliac.

Posted by: Alpha A02
and the post above you... You have nothing to back up your claim. its not even an arguement. I do have the right to. I can do it. I have the controllers. I have paid for live. There is a gametype that allows it. But as far as that go we forced noone to play us. we had a full party so noone wanting compettive gameplay got harmed. And I'm not claiming innoccents anyway.
You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Edited on 10.08.2008 2:01 PM PDT]

  • 10.08.2008 1:57 PM PDT

Show no mercy! I HAZ RECONZ! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

(Crickets chirping)

  • 10.08.2008 2:55 PM PDT
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people who are sticking up for bungie right now are a bunch of idiots. what in the hell are you trying to do. get yourself recon. obviously bungie is wrong in some ways but right in others. in my case i obviously know that i was trying to get oddball. maybe bungie should of made oddball pop up a lot more and half of this wouldn't of happened and wouldn't have people breathing down their neck. once again, my case is legit in what i have stated. now if any bungie employee has the guts to speak up against me and risk being completely humiliated, feel free to do so. who cares if you have the games to prove that everyone was winning by huge amounts. you will never know a persons intent. my case is that the fastest way i thought of getting oddball was to have one person run around the whole entire time and kill everyone. also, the friends that i did this with didn't even get banned. so bungie, if you say your going to ban everyone who is exp boosting please follow up with it. i've at least talked to about 20 other people who say that they did it with others and their friends didn't get banned. your system is faulty. next time you come out with something like this do it right or don't do it at all.

  • 10.08.2008 3:27 PM PDT
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I've been playing Halo since 2002. My earliest memories include hiding at the shotgun window on Damnation and killing my dad with grenades while playing co-op on Pillar of Autumn.

God dam raisons

  • 10.08.2008 3:28 PM PDT
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lawl raison

  • 10.08.2008 3:34 PM PDT