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Posted by: JobeTheConqueror
Posted by: Luminous Orange
Posted by: Alpha A02
What is next? Officially making it illegal to camp a spot in a map? Its in the game, its not a programming error. Its not a perfect arguement but in most minds that would be considered legit.
Being a part of a game doesn't mean they have to get any points. Nor does the lack of points mean they aren't enjoying the game.
Very good points. The camping point is very relevant and I hope never happens.
If what I am reading throughout the forums is true, people can be banned in non-ranked games because of guests that earn no points (or leave the controller alone). To ban people for using multiple controllers and having guests in the game that don't play according to Bungie's rules is simply ridiculous. Bungie, why don't you just eliminate earning achievements in non-ranked games? I mean honestly, why even go there? Why give the players the option to "cheat" to get them in the first place in games that don't matter? They are simply for fun, not truly serious because of the inclusion of guests. Heck, if someone has 3 people playing they can have a 2 year old, a 95 year old, and a dog playing. A guest is a guest and unless you lay down rules beforehand and have people agree to them, it is very unfair to punish. It's some really uncool temptations and unfair to ban people from playing the way they want to play.
Ranked games are totally different. That word rank alone sets the game apart from all of the others. There are rules, limits, etc. that must be upheld for the competitive nature of the game to stay true. But it is a different situation when you have buddies over to play. I still don't fully understand the whole boosting/cheating thing (see my post above) but from what I do gather I think it might be you Bungie being somewhat shortsighted to again create the situations in these non-ranked games (by allowing guests) and banning people from just having fun. Let me be clear once more, I understand for ranked games, but for fun???
I think it is lame that gamers need to sit all 3 of their guests down before the game, show them a power point slide on what is cheating, and to have all of them sign a contract in blood that forbids them from going to the bathroom, drinking, eating, or anything else that may result in the controller being left alone for any duration of time. Because, if what I am reading is true, people are getting banned for having controllers left alone (which anyone with common sense knows that the opponents will take advantage of that situation), and to simply quit if one person needs to use the restroom is bannable also!
I do understand that people cheat and I do despise them. I think there should be action taken and I am glad that you guys do just that. Butt what I don't understand is why you didn't lay this all out in advance. I sound like a broken record here but I want to be sure that you guys get what I am saying. Why don't you make an update 3 and simply add in Terms Of Use? Why not have a FAQ page that details everything in that Terms Of Use? Why not remove the achievements in games that aren't ranked? Why not give a warning with an explanation first before the "warning" ban? Why not give people who made an honest mistake an understanding of what they did? Why not educate instead of eliminate?
Let's get a few things straight. Cases where people "leave their controller to go to the bathroom" don't happen. It's an excuse people who broke the rules use in frustration to try and justify their actions, claim innocence, and make the big mean company who banned them the enemy.
Actual innocence in this is slim to nill. Barely a handful in a sea of cheaters. No one said their wouldn't be casualties in the wake of the Banhammer's war on jerks. Almost none of the people who have whined on this forum are innocent. It's pretty easy to tell them apart. One, actual innocents are almost non-existant. Two, cheaters are marked quite clearly by level of frustration, immaturity, and attempts to look like a victim.
Learn this: you got what you desreved. You are not a victim, and you will not be given lenience or reparation. You are not great in number. You have no power. You and your angry fellow cheaters have no sway in anything, you can say or do whatever you want and you will not change or damage Halo 3 or it's creators in any way. Your opinion on the issue means nothing. You don't get to decide what is right or wrong in the game, Bungie does. Stop trying to get an edge illegitimately. Just play the game and try to get better. If you don't like it, don't play. But you lose on this deal. They already have your money, you are the one who misses out. Their are still millions of other fans who still love and support the game, it's company, and any future projects. Your number, anger, and opinion are all equal to squat.
Bottom line is: you broke the rules. You did something you know is unfair, and claim ignorance in a weak attempt to look like the victim. Cheaters get
Pownage.
And to add to this point. Bungie has made it quite clear on several ocassions that one of the main features associated with the mighty banhammer is that it can accurately detect wether or not a controller(s) is being used during a match or just sitting idol. Which means that stats such as player movement, the picking up of weapons, shots fired etc. are closely monitored and therefore used as a means to determine the severity of the potentially bannable act. There is nothing unjust about what is being done here so to all whom have felt the swift hand of justice that has reigned down upon them just suck it up and make sure that you never do it again. Man I cannot wait for the next banhammer to come into effect. The forums will surely be flooded with plenty of entertaining threads such as this one.