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Subject: The only "omg I gut EXP banned for NO RAISON" thread

Posted by: TylertheTormentr
Posted by: imasliceyou
Posted by: TylertheTormentr
Hey, i've got a question I havn't learned the answer to.

If you get EXP banned, will you still be able to get experience in the playlists and get the 7 on 7 achievement in October?


count up 14 days and see. ie when where you banned plus that


No, Im asking if you can still get experience in the playlists. because it says experience, but doesnt specify if i can still get playlist experience or not.
And i did count up the days, its on the 10th i get unbanned.



no exp at all just cause the playlist has a exp level doesnt mean it will go up if you look at your total exp it goes along with the new rank. so the ban is for all exp sorry man i wont be able to get it either but it really is not a hard achievement to get just gotta wait till nov

[Edited on 09.29.2008 11:36 AM PDT]

  • 09.29.2008 11:35 AM PDT
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hey Shishka, does the banpuppy know the difference between, your in a game with a guest and you legitimatly get an achievement, and your in game with a guest and you cheat to get the achievment?

  • 09.29.2008 11:35 AM PDT

Posted by: Lagg3d
hey Shishka, does the banpuppy know the difference between, your in a game with a guest and you legitimatly get an achievement, and your in game with a guest and you cheat to get the achievment?


the way they look at boosting is are you guaranteed a victory if your guests are fighting back and actually playing the guests are legal. if guests stand there and give you an auto victory its boosting.

  • 09.29.2008 11:37 AM PDT

Posted by: KRAKEN CMT
[Thread cut. This isn't a "will this get me banned?" thread. It's a "why did I get banned?" thread. If you have not already been EXP banned, you probably shouldn't be posting here. -S]


Fair enough.

But I wouldn't have posted that question if there wasn't reason to. Can you point me to a list of bannable behaviour? Or where should I have posted my question? All I saw in the first post was a couple points with "but not limited to..." before it. I'd like to get an answer to my question. I don't want to find out after it has already happened, even though I brought up the possibility with you beforehand. So please point me to where I can find the answer.

  • 09.29.2008 11:40 AM PDT

does that mean its boosting if u are all eating ur tea and fail to get any kills because of this??? cos i like to eat my tea sitting in a friend match (i like to call them) while we are all sitting idle in a match

  • 09.29.2008 11:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Redetonation
does that mean its boosting if u are all eating ur tea and fail to get any kills because of this??? cos i like to eat my tea sitting in a friend match (i like to call them) while we are all sitting idle in a match


You should've switched to custom games, then.

You're done in this thread. Any more posting from you will result in a blacklisting from the forums for two weeks.

  • 09.29.2008 11:44 AM PDT

Posted by: KRAKEN CMT
Posted by: KRAKEN CMT
[Thread cut. This isn't a "will this get me banned?" thread. It's a "why did I get banned?" thread. If you have not already been EXP banned, you probably shouldn't be posting here. -S]


Fair enough.

But I wouldn't have posted that question if there wasn't reason to. Can you point me to a list of bannable behaviour? Or where should I have posted my question? All I saw in the first post was a couple points with "but not limited to..." before it. I'd like to get an answer to my question. I don't want to find out after it has already happened, even though I brought up the possibility with you beforehand. So please point me to where I can find the answer.


http://www.bungie.net/ban

it was on the frontpage

  • 09.29.2008 11:44 AM PDT

we do this because 1. Customs are lame and 2.we like the competition of gettin the XP

  • 09.29.2008 11:44 AM PDT

shiska please do me a favour can you check if im banned my gt is thedaman
thank you so much

  • 09.29.2008 11:46 AM PDT

im Just trying to get more xp on my lone wolves 50 before reach comes out,Thats really the only time I put effort in. Other then that I mess around in social with friends... I use to play pretty seriously, that time has passed....

im sorry, i realize this isn't a question and answer thread, and I realize you've put up with alot of stupid posts already, but im just gonna say this now since this is the only thread about banning and then i'll just leave it at that. I have never been exp banned but im worried seeing as how easy it is.

If im playing with guests that get no kills, I do not deserve to be banned. If im having a get together and drinking is involved, and we decide to play halo, no kills will be had... Point being, how is the system able to decipher the difference? is it able to tell if someone moves around and shoots on the map? is it able to read the effort a player is giving ?

if I play a game with a bunch of guests that get 0 kills for 10 games in a row because they don't know how to play, does that mean I will get banned ? Maybe I was playing DLC and got some achievements off them because they ran around in circles cluelessly? does that deserve a ban ?

Does that mean in order to not get banned I have to make sure my guests are capable players that will always get points ? Wtf ....

  • 09.29.2008 11:48 AM PDT

Posted by: bi2y4n 51m0n
stupid noob.


Posted by: Redetonation
we do this because 1. Customs are lame and 2.we like the competition of gettin the XP


come on man lets be mature this thread is to help not flame

  • 09.29.2008 11:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: TediZzle45
why was i experience banned i didnt even do nething wrong!!!


You'll have to link to the gamertag you were banned on if you want me to tell you why you were banned.

  • 09.29.2008 11:50 AM PDT

Im pretty sure I know why I was banned. This sucks I can't gain Xp for 2 weeks you bet I wont do it again

  • 09.29.2008 11:52 AM PDT
  • gamertag: T1M3
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Continuous luck is skill.

alright Shishka, i kind of feel like a noob for doing it. I mean we filled up the party with guitar hero controllers and any other random controller we could get our hands on. The intent was obveous. However the ban itself is a little severe so fast, its a little more harsh then a slap on the wrist.. I don't totally agree with this and i know some people are quite furious for actually banning someone for something you can do in any other game. maybe you should have added customs as well or something so the people that wanted to do it this way could. W/e.. anyways the point to this post is i think a warning, like a message warning on the xbox would have been apropriate to come out first. that way for people that don't read on bungie regularly still understand the rules.

I'm actually pretty sorry I did this because I used to pretty into CS (computer science) and respect halo a lot for their ground breaking work. The reason i did it was because I wasn't playing halo so much, and it seemed like a quick, easy, legitimate way to get them. It seemed legit because anyone can do it. So my apologies, i hate this stupid ban haha.

oh and ps // what happened to my legendary status :( when this ban clears can i have it back. I learnt my lesson and I felt like I deserved the promotion.

T1M3

[Edited on 09.29.2008 11:58 AM PDT]

  • 09.29.2008 11:52 AM PDT
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i only tried it 2 times but those 2 times didnt give xp so i said -blam!- it and did it legit got to 27 or so and help my friends then it poped up MLG AMP3d is gt

[Edited on 09.29.2008 11:55 AM PDT]

  • 09.29.2008 11:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: TediZzle45
FlawlessDTC89 is my gt, i think it IS linked.


That gamertag is not EXP banned.

  • 09.29.2008 11:56 AM PDT

I do have a question. I got xp banned on my gamertag and so di my two brothers, but I was the only one who did the cheating. Does this mean my console is banned.

[Edited on 09.29.2008 11:59 AM PDT]

  • 09.29.2008 11:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: S2X amp3d
i only tried it 2 times but those 2 times didnt give xp so i said -blam!- it and did it legit got to 27 or so and help my friends then it poped up MLG AMP3d is gt


http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754656 320&player=MLG%20AMP3d
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754699 753&player=MLG%20AMP3d
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754721 699&player=MLG%20AMP3d
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=754758 259&player=MLG%20AMP3d

Et cetera.

  • 09.29.2008 11:59 AM PDT
  • gamertag: sum0ne
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Thanks for Team Snipers Bungie.
Mythic Member, Legendary Member and back and forth. i just can't make up my mind!
Campaign - Halo C.E.>Halo 2>Halo 3
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Just about every thing I post is my opinion and nothing more. Be subjective. Respect other's opinions. Try to understand other's point of view.

When all of this first started I wasn't terribly sure if Bungie was handling things the right way. For starters Bungie hasn't always considered boosting illegal. Proof:Lots of drama abounded (or perhaps rebounded) on Wednesday and Thursday as famous baller Gilbert Arenas got busted for EXP boosting on Live. Although it’s a little sad, it’s not strictly cheating at the game and he’s not really harming anyone. However, we should reinforce our philosophy and comment here. Here is the weekly update from Luke that quote came from. Scroll down to the Slam Dunks and NBA Rank Whoring part. Notice the part that says it's strictly not cheating?

Now if you read the entire post you'll come acrossAbusing the system in even minor ways is inexcusable but most of our efforts, both engineering and punitive are aimed at abuses of Skill level (which would adversely affect people’s gameplay experience) and other forms of cheating. Both are being dealt with far more severely and efficiently than in Halo 2. And as ever, we will be diligent and observant and adapt to change. Luke was obviously leaving the door open so Bungie could change their mind.

Now mind you I didn't have a problem with Bungie changing their mind. My only thought was Bungie could have done a better job of warning people, like an in game warning. I would venture that the majority of people who play Halo 3 never come to B.net. Of the one's who have been here how many actually keep up with the goings on at B.net? Think about how many people you have probably talked to on XBL that didn't know what happen to the rating system. I understand that not knowing the rules is not an excuse but some reality and common sense should also be used.

Also, at first I thought "What is boosting, especially achievement boosting, hurting?" With a little thought you can figure it out. If you take 5 people in to Rumble Pit and are boosting you are ruining the experience for the other person trying to actually play correctly. There are a ton of other scenarios but this one is the easiest. Yes, if you took a full party in to Rumble Pit it wouldn't hurt anyone but how is the system suppose to separate the two? Also, one could argue that sense you didn't get the achievement legitimately that you are skewing the point of achievements.

I thought to myself that Bungie can't ban people for playing the game differently. Then it hit me. They are not banning people from playing even though so many here have made it sound like that. You have a right to play Halo 3 online if you bought the game and purchased XBL as long as you follow the rules of XBL and Bungie. You do not have a right to EXP points. You are still getting to play the game so how have you been wronged? Think of it this way. What if Bungie decided to change the rating system again, maybe to the way Halo 2 was, and got rid of EXP all together? You might complain about it but you have not been wronged. You are still getting to play the product you paid for online.

The bottom line is if Bungie would have changed their mind about this rule and just started banning people from matchmaking I would agree that those people have an argument. That's not what is happening though. Those people can still play Halo 3 online in matchmaking. Just how have they been wronged?

P.S. I haven't been banned or EXP boosted ever. I have helped people in Rumble Pit twice get achievements when the game first came out. This was when the entire lobby agreed to it. Now looking back I'm not sure what to think about that.


[Edited on 09.29.2008 12:04 PM PDT]

  • 09.29.2008 11:59 AM PDT

Posted by: Justin224603
I do have a question. I got xp banned on my gamertag and so di my two brothers, but I was the only one who did the cheating.


its associated with the xbox if that xbox was the you where boosting on it will ban all the other accounts on the box.

  • 09.29.2008 11:59 AM PDT

Posted by: imasliceyou
Posted by: Justin224603
I do have a question. I got xp banned on my gamertag and so di my two brothers, but I was the only one who did the cheating.


its associated with the xbox if that xbox was the you where boosting on it will ban all the other accounts on the box.


Thanks

  • 09.29.2008 12:01 PM PDT