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Reflectedpower,

I remember that game.

The game took a long time to load, and in the end it was me and those two people playing. I obviously was good enough to take on both of them. One quit after I took a 2 kill lead, and the other quit when I took a 4 kill lead. What is hard to explain?

And giving only one example? They can't ban me for one instance which lead to me playing a 2v1 and me winning. Are you telling me it is impossible to win 2v1? I think not.

Still not enought to ban me.

Also, now that I mention it. How come I get permanently banned before I even get a 2 week ban? It makes no sense. Have I done so much trouble in less than 2 weeks of play to get permanently banned?

I know my connection isn't the best, I run off my college's connection and sometimes it takes a while for a game to load thus causing people to quit out of frustration. I can't help that. It says the banhammer won't affect people with poor connections like mine.

[Edited on 10.27.2008 8:18 PM PDT]

  • 10.27.2008 6:57 PM PDT

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Haha Thats so blam TSGH called shishka a bad word on a youtube video! but tough shishka can out smart them in many means,brown V should of stood up for himself and not of mumbled in the mic saying il ban you you and you xbox.accoruse they did get banned.!

  • 10.27.2008 8:06 PM PDT

How does 90mm of Tungsten strike ya?

I'm still curious as to why Bungie reset every person's rank. Along with that, I can't play a 16-player Big Team Slayer.

If this isn't the right place to nag, I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction.

  • 10.28.2008 3:06 AM PDT

WHAHAHA P00NED

Posted by: Reflectedpower
Posted by: Sir Tdrone
no it was before that game


HAHA you just admited you boosted twice even after u got an EXP BAN!!

HAHA ur getting a permanant ban now


uuhhm why in the world do u think i boost the game shown is a game where i was on a friend's xbox and he betrayed someone and he got kicked and because i was on the same xbox i got kicked to

  • 10.28.2008 4:00 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: AJM Ruler
Cut Short to save space.


Does

This Qualify

For Host IP Booting

Connections laggy yeah right...

Innocence denied.

I've noticed, since I've been dening so many peoples innocence they have stopped posting 'mainly'

[Edited on 10.28.2008 4:40 AM PDT]

  • 10.28.2008 4:38 AM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

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I'm still curious as to why Bungie reset every person's rank. Along with that, I can't play a 16-player Big Team Slayer.

If this isn't the right place to nag, I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction.


They didnt reset everyones rank, they gave each playlist its own rank, and since it was impossible to check everyones game history and give them exp for certain playlists, the playlist's exp was set at 0.

BTB (BTS) required the legendary map pack, do you have this?

  • 10.28.2008 4:41 AM PDT
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I can't wait till they start banning people that quit matches.

  • 10.28.2008 7:56 AM PDT
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What was the gamertag that got banned? Cause if it was this one, what does it matter. Im just saying.

  • 10.28.2008 7:58 AM PDT
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Oh boy, so you give 5 examples some of which aren't even played back to back? Nice try, but that isn't enough for 1. To give me a permanent ban after only have my live account for 12 days, and 2. I will explain all of these games as a monkey with no brain can explain (I know all of these games simply because I haven't even played THAT many games to begin with):

Posted by: cookie of chaos
Posted by: AJM Ruler
Cut Short to save space.


Does Lets start with this game. Simple. We slaughtered the team. We were up by more than 20 kills +. One person quit, and a ripple effect followed with the last too. Obviously these people don't want to finish when they are getting slaughtered like this. This never happened to you? People quit because they are losing by a lot?

This Qualify Another very simple explanation. Obviously, the game took a LONG time to load. I was party leader, none of my team left. If a game takes too long to load sometimes, people quit. Not my fault. I am a person who DOESN'T quit. I wait for at least 6 minutes before I leave. My college connection isn't the best, so I am a patient person. Something that is out of my control.

For Host IP Booting Another plainly simple game. We again slaughtered them. The opposing team obviously sucked if you looked at the amount of kills they had. Again a commonplace for people. If you are losing by a lot and no chance of winning, people quit. And once one person quits, another will follow till the whole team quits. This NEVER happens to you? I THINK NOT.

Connections laggy yeah right... I explained this one earlier. But I again will explain. Game took a long time to load, ALL OF MY team quit, and 2 people on the other team stayed. The game was a 2v1. Not my fault I was better than these two people. The game was close before I got 2 double kills and got ahead of them. One person then quit because they knew they couldn't beat me, and the next person followed. You can't tell me it is impossible to win 2v1? 2v1 is very possible to win if you know how to play well.

Innocence denied.

I've noticed, since I've been dening so many peoples innocence they have stopped posting 'mainly'
Again, another game were we were whooping some ass. Once one person quits, and losing by a lot, then the other teammates will follow. This is a commonplace in Halo 2/3. I commend the last person for staying, at least he had the guts to stay. I am a person WHO never quits, no matter how good or how bad I am losing. I am not quitter. People quit a lot when they lose, that is how Halo 3 is played a lot.


As you see, all of these examples were EASILY explained. This happens all the time to me. I don't know what Host IP Booting is, but I can tell you that I have no control over my connection. I am at the mercy of my college when it comes to how good my connection is. I really hope Shishka will see that I have done nothing wrong here and a legitimate Halo 3 player.

And to top it off, reading the Halo 3 Banhammer details, and I quote:

The following things will not result in a visit from the banhammer:

* Lag (poor or intermittent network performance).
* Occasional disconnects due to inconsistent network conditions.
* Playing with the same group of friends over and over using the party system as long as this is not for the purpose of boosting.
* Losing games over and over again as long as this is not for the purpose of boosting.
* Winning games over and over again as long as this is not for the purpose of boosting.


I can't help my sometimes poor connection, it is my college's fault. I did play with the same few friends and we won a lot, which made a lot of people quit out of frustration. And I did lose a couple of games in a row because my partners were more jerking around than playing.

Sorry cookie, but I want Shishka to really give me the explanation. You gave me a bunch of random games and tried to pin something on me I didn't do. I bet you anything, if I looked through all your games, I could find very similar games as well. We all have them. We all have games were we do good and people quit as a result.

I would like to see you TRY to rebuttal this. I think the Banhammer is a great way to get people cheating, but I think that it is flawed as well as it may get innocent people who may have look like they are cheating but not.

AJM Ruler

  • 10.28.2008 10:41 AM PDT
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I hear you AJM Ruler. At college with a crappy connection. I know I already posted this, but banned after 4-5 days of having my account. I also want an explanation of why I was banned, although I don't think Shishka has been around since I sent him a PM two days ago and I haven't received a response and neither has this thread.

I also do not quit, like you do and have some games where I play against people who quit because they're losing or they're down a player after a long load. Many times, I'll get into the game a minute or so after other people so I'll be behind, but I don't quit. I even had a game that I got a black screen in the middle of the match and it didn't go away until the end. I ended up with 2 kills as I was lagged out for most of the time. I got kicked once for not being able to connect to the host, which I believe was earlier in the day I got banned.

I also think the Banhammer is a great system, but it is flawed. Situations like me, you, and the guy who got banned before he even played are examples. I just want Bungie to tell me why I was banned and maybe look into the Banhammer to see if it is functioning fine.

Another system similar to the Banhammer is PunkBuster, which is used for Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory which I play on PC. It usually works completely fine and keeps the hackers away, but there are instances where it makes mistakes. One such example is that it banned everybody who connected to a server, even the admins of that server themselves. The point is, software (such as PunkBuster in this example, or the Banhammer) periodically has bugs and/or makes mistakes. I just wish Bungie would tell me why I was banned, and anybody else with a similar experience, and maybe see if the Banhammer has a problem.

  • 10.28.2008 11:11 AM PDT

*if you dont get owned* *you will be pwned*

hi im new to this forum so please dont blacklist me im just wondering because i play with my brother online alot and he is a begginer i mean he doesnt like kill noone he kills like 6-7 on average each game and dies quite a lot. hes usually on my team though so i have a few questions.
1.can you get banned if one of the bungie members think i killed my brother to boost but he is on my own team.
2.if hes on the opposite team do you have any video evidence of the boosting? (i havnt boosted atall im just worried that you might think i have)
3.if you are doing forge if you play agaisnt the other persons actual gamertag and you win because you are alot better does it count? (like before ive got the invincible achievment from using the scorpion tank)
4. if the other team are boosting should you stay and play the game like normal or quit.
please could you answer these questions so i wont feel worried next time i got to play on xbox live.
p.s i never quit games the only times ive quit are ones where 2 of them my internet connection stopped working because of a powercut or internet loss.
and the other two it just randomly disconnected me out for no reason and i wasnt lagging.
thanks


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  • 10.28.2008 2:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: AJM Ruler
Reflectedpower,

I remember that game.

The game took a long time to load, and in the end it was me and those two people playing. I obviously was good enough to take on both of them. One quit after I took a 2 kill lead, and the other quit when I took a 4 kill lead. What is hard to explain?

And giving only one example? They can't ban me for one instance which lead to me playing a 2v1 and me winning. Are you telling me it is impossible to win 2v1? I think not.

Still not enought to ban me.

Also, now that I mention it. How come I get permanently banned before I even get a 2 week ban? It makes no sense. Have I done so much trouble in less than 2 weeks of play to get permanently banned?

I know my connection isn't the best, I run off my college's connection and sometimes it takes a while for a game to load thus causing people to quit out of frustration. I can't help that. It says the banhammer won't affect people with poor connections like mine.



yes, it is possible to win 1v2,

but WITHOUT them getting atleast one kill?


  • 10.28.2008 5:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Reflectedpower
Posted by: AJM Ruler
Reflectedpower,

I remember that game.

The game took a long time to load, and in the end it was me and those two people playing. I obviously was good enough to take on both of them. One quit after I took a 2 kill lead, and the other quit when I took a 4 kill lead. What is hard to explain?

And giving only one example? They can't ban me for one instance which lead to me playing a 2v1 and me winning. Are you telling me it is impossible to win 2v1? I think not.

Still not enought to ban me.

Also, now that I mention it. How come I get permanently banned before I even get a 2 week ban? It makes no sense. Have I done so much trouble in less than 2 weeks of play to get permanently banned?

I know my connection isn't the best, I run off my college's connection and sometimes it takes a while for a game to load thus causing people to quit out of frustration. I can't help that. It says the banhammer won't affect people with poor connections like mine.



yes, it is possible to win 1v2,

but WITHOUT them getting atleast one kill?




They actually killed him 9 times if you took the time to look at the game and he had about 13 kills I think. 1v2 is certainly possible I have detonated the bomb in 1v5 assault on isolation.

[Edited on 10.29.2008 6:25 AM PDT]

  • 10.29.2008 6:22 AM PDT
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thank you for making this Shiska

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  • 10.29.2008 3:58 PM PDT
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My console has been banned from MM and I'd like to know why please.

GT = i Cler1c i

  • 10.29.2008 4:20 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: i Cler1c i
My console has been banned from MM and I'd like to know why please.

GT = i Cler1c i


Since your a multi-accounter, you'll have to provide all the tags that are/have been on your xbox.

  • 10.29.2008 4:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: cookie of chaos
Posted by: i Cler1c i
My console has been banned from MM and I'd like to know why please.

GT = i Cler1c i


Since your a multi-accounter, you'll have to provide all the tags that are/have been on your xbox.


Why would any of my old accounts matter? They have nothing to do with the tag I am currently using. In fact, the xbox I'm using is brand new, and I just made the tag a few weeks ago. Oh well, heres me ( i Cler1c i ) posting from my other account.

[Edited on 10.29.2008 4:44 PM PDT]

  • 10.29.2008 4:42 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: II GoTeNkS II
Posted by: cookie of chaos
Posted by: i Cler1c i
My console has been banned from MM and I'd like to know why please.

GT = i Cler1c i


Since your a multi-accounter, you'll have to provide all the tags that are/have been on your xbox.


Why would any of my old accounts matter? They have nothing to do with the tag I am currently using. In fact, the xbox I'm using is brand new, and I just made the tag a few weeks ago.


The fact that the ban was sent your xbox not your account.

Any account on your xbox could get banned
(An old tag you havnt used for a week or a few days)

And you could make an asumption it was your current account, like you have done.

  • 10.29.2008 4:44 PM PDT
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So since my old account was banned for an undisclosed reason, and I recovered it on my new xbox to check my messages, my new xbox gets banned from MM?

  • 10.29.2008 4:48 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: i Cler1c i
So since my old account was banned for an undisclosed reason, and I recovered it on my new xbox to check my messages, my new xbox gets banned from MM?


Since your ban was matchmaking ban, this seem to me to be a sevear ban, in which cases from experiance is only used against people Moderating or Host IP booters.

Statisticly, among you games.
1/2 of you MLG games, half of their team didnt finish the games.
1/4 of your Team doubles games half of their didnt finish the games.

Towards me guessing the ideal of your ban, the system could have flagged you among a 'Host IP Booter'. But thats just my guess.

  • 10.29.2008 5:38 PM PDT
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Well thats what I thought, but the guy I was playing with didn't get banned, so I'm confused. This actually happened to me earlier this year with a 1 month I had, me and the same guy (different tag of course) were dominating doubles and out of nowhere our xbox's were banned? If I didn't know KP, I would've had to wait out the whole 2 week ban. But now I can't contact KP or anybody from bungie because they all hate me.

[Edited on 10.30.2008 10:10 AM PDT]

  • 10.30.2008 10:09 AM PDT

-S

Posted by: i Cler1c i
My console has been banned from MM and I'd like to know why please.

GT = i Cler1c i


Network manipulation. People sure do seem to drop a lot when you play. Beyond the thresholds of "just bad luck," to say the least.

Edit: Also, KP isn't at Bungie anymore, so I'm not sure what talking to him would do for you.

[Edited on 10.30.2008 10:10 AM PDT]

  • 10.30.2008 10:10 AM PDT
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Dropping and people quitting should be clear to see, I would think, seeing how you get penalized if you quit. Should be easily monitored. And it still doesn't explain why my friend I was playing with wasn't banned as well?

I know KP because I was a tester, I know he isn't with bungie anymore.

[Edited on 10.30.2008 10:17 AM PDT]

  • 10.30.2008 10:13 AM PDT

how long does an exp ban last for

  • 10.30.2008 10:21 AM PDT
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What about my ban Shishka?
GT: sum1else37

  • 10.30.2008 1:44 PM PDT