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Posted by: Diamondcutter
Here is and idea: If the producers who set up the "achievements" for the new Mythic map pack and future map packs would have made the achievements only obtainable through "Ranked" play then there would not be this problem of people, like myself, going in with a group of 7 friends and starting a social match and playing to get the achievements. Or, another idea is to punish people who game the system.
Take the achievement "Save this Film" which states on a Mythic map, get a perfection medal during and ranked or social match. Ok yes I did get 7 other friends together and exploited a flaw in the system but I did do what they wanted. I did get the achievement through "SOCIAL" play. If they really didn't want people to exploit the flaw in the new achievements but teaming up with friends to get the achievement then they should have made all the achievements only obtainable through "RANKED" play.You know, they created this list to give people a real opportunity to earn the achievemants. It isn't the designers fault that you have no problem with cheating. All of the poeple who are getting them honestly appreciate the ability to do it with their friends. What does it mean "it's only social?" I find cheating to be anti-social.
Ok they ban me for 2 weeks for earning exp, cool, whatever. But this message is to whoever can fix the fallacy of the achievement system with new maps, so others don't have to suffer because they find a loop hole in the achievements like I did. Fix it or continue to ban people for out smarting the achievement!It's not a fallacy. The mistake is yours, not theirs.
Posted by: SwungMean
My beef is that i think they are unjustly using an exp ban to ban people for getting achievements. I personally think that if anyone was to ban someone for achievement boosting it would be microsoft. I dont see how bungie has the authority to actually ban you for boosting achievements. Im not saying anyone is wrong, but i didnt know they had that power. Sure, Microsoft is probably against the boosting too, but it's Bungie's deal as well. It's their game that you diminish by cheating. I'd take offense too. They can ban you out of their game as per the Code of Conduct and the Terms of Service you agreed to.
I just dont see how you can ban someone for using your system against you. If you didnt want them to do it, put it in ranked. You cant expect to put something in social and expect people not to do it. Wow, really? It's Bungie's fault that you haven't got a little integrity. Show some responisbility for your own actions.
It doesnt say you cant, and its not really a bannable offense in my opinion; however exp boosting is which is what theyre using to ban people for. My other beef is that i got 2 exp and the people with me got more than that and i got the ban.Your opinion? Sure, in your opinion, boosting is OK. Of course you don't think it should be a punishable offense. But look at it from Bungie's perspective. If you created a game with all these ac hievements for gamesrs to earn, and they were all cheating to get it done, it really cheapens your work. You'd want it stopped too.
My last beef is that people do it in ranked and dont get banned. It should be fair and spread out. If i get banned for two weeks for getting achievements then the other people who do it in lone wolves and legendary should too. Like it or not there are people who dont care for halo 3 or who arent very good but do care for achievements who are going to boost them if there is an easy way to do it. Have you ever been to xbox360achievements? People boost in all kinds of games. Do you not think its a little flawed that the person with the least experience got the ban and that people who do it in ranked and actually cheat in ranked to do it dont get it?Why do you assume that other people aren't punished? How would you know? It is certanly harder to boost in a game by yourself instead of a game full of partners. Besides, I have to say that the arguments that "everybodey does it" is ridiculous. One, it's not true. And two, that's no excuse.
It seems like a slap in the face of people that are good or work really hard to be good for everyone to be able to get the symbol. I know that its just that and its not your actual numerical rank or anything, but i thought it meant more the way it was. I liked having a symbol for your numerical rank and then the grade for how much you played. I just didnt understand the need for the change which is why im asking. Again, not trying to bash or anything like that. Im honestly wondering and i dont keep up so i dont understand.This is good point. People who cheat to attain something, diminish the value of accomplishment for a person who get's there honestly. This is true for the game rank, and it is also true for achievements. So, if you apply your own logic to the whole experience your question should be answered.