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Subject: The only "omg I gut EXP banned for NO RAISON" thread
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I lost four games. Why would i lose games on purpose if i was trying to get exp? I want to see where it's cheating. I want you to copy and paste it to me from the tos where you cant join up with friends and get achievements. Show me where achievement boosting and not exp boosting is actually written against the rules that i agreed to. I also want to know why getting skulls with friends isn't considered cheating as well. I also want to know why i was the one who got banned when i got 2 exp and they got like four. I didn't quit to give them exp and they didnt throw the game or quit to give me exp so to call it boosting is retarded and wrong. For them to not get banned and they still havent is wrong. What are these other factors that i need to be aware of? i also dont need you to tell me what to do or not to do with my game. I payed for the maps, my game, xbox live, and my internet bill. If you really want to think about it when i payed for those maps i paid for my achievements that i got the way i wanted to without affecting anyone else. Real exp boosting would be either me or them quitting or how about me actually winning even half of the games or me leveling up another account. I think people leveling up other accounts affects the integrity of the game a lot more than me playing social with my friends to get an achievement like a hammer spree that i have no interest in actually earning. Doesnt being exp banned actually help me to boost in ranked? If i were actually still playing Halo a lot but not having to delevel to get rid of exp because ive been banned from earning it wouldnt that just help me the next time i went into a match since it would probably read it as i should lose depending on how much i played? And if i really wanted to boost exp id be doing it in double exp weekend.

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  • 04.14.2009 1:51 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: SwungMean
Snippy Snip Mcsnip


In your message you have stated "Show me where achievement boosting and not exp boosting is actually written against the rules that i agreed to" its all here: http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?link=H3Bans

Please note the line:

Types of violation include, but are not limited to, the following example actions.

Meaning that anything considered unsporting or boosting related, even achievement boosting, is prohibited and yes you did agree to this as you have played Halo 3 in MM, if you did not read this prior to playing then its tough im afraid as stated at the front of this entire thread by non other than Shishka:

- If you're cheating to get Achievements, you're still cheating. The banhammer is aimed at the behavior, not the intent. "I was just trying to get Yorick" won't get you out of the EXP ban.


Seems to me that you are not great at reading the small print. Just accept the ban and don't do it again.

Regarding the actual cheating you are doing in game, take a look at this one http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=107470 4184&player=SwungMean seems a tad fishy to me old chum, but don't worry the people who were cheating with you will be tracked down eventually and join you in the Hall of Shame


Case closed. (and don't get abusive in your response)

[Edited on 04.14.2009 5:01 AM PDT]

  • 04.14.2009 4:53 AM PDT

Posted by: SwungMean
I lost four games. Why would i lose games on purpose if i was trying to get exp? I want to see where it's cheating. I want you to copy and paste it to me from the tos where you cant join up with friends and get achievements. Show me where achievement boosting and not exp boosting is actually written against the rules that i agreed to. I also want to know why getting skulls with friends isn't considered cheating as well. I also want to know why i was the one who got banned when i got 2 exp and they got like four. I didn't quit to give them exp and they didnt throw the game or quit to give me exp so to call it boosting is retarded and wrong. For them to not get banned and they still havent is wrong. What are these other factors that i need to be aware of? i also dont need you to tell me what to do or not to do with my game. I payed for the maps, my game, xbox live, and my internet bill. If you really want to think about it when i payed for those maps i paid for my achievements that i got the way i wanted to without affecting anyone else. Real exp boosting would be either me or them quitting or how about me actually winning even half of the games or me leveling up another account. I think people leveling up other accounts affects the integrity of the game a lot more than me playing social with my friends to get an achievement like a hammer spree that i have no interest in actually earning. Doesnt being exp banned actually help me to boost in ranked? If i were actually still playing Halo a lot but not having to delevel to get rid of exp because ive been banned from earning it wouldnt that just help me the next time i went into a match since it would probably read it as i should lose depending on how much i played? And if i really wanted to boost exp id be doing it in double exp weekend.


Look kid, you can sit here and complain all you want. When it comes down to it you broke the rules end of story. I'm done going over the reason why you were banned. Bungie determines what constitutes cheating and through the ToS you agreed to you have agreed not to cheat. The warnings were evident and you still cheated. You can justify it all you want, but at the end of the day you are still going to be banned. You make it seem like you don't play that much anyway so again what the hell are you complaining about? You have come on here acknowledging that you boosted achievements and decided to fight the fact that it was against the rules. I'm done with you on this topic

  • 04.14.2009 8:15 AM PDT
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I didn't agree to the front part of the forum which is what that is contained in; not that actual terms of service. The bungie.net/ban page doesnt say anything about achievements. They say stuff about deleveling and skill and exp boosting. That doesnt say achievement to me. Please tell me what was fishy about that game. 1. It doesnt even have any of the achievements being earned on it except a killjoy. 2. People died all over it so people obviously werent being killed in spawn. 3. Their team had more kills than my team did. Also my teammates had more assists than kills and scored the flag twice which tells me that i have them to thank for a lot of my kills since i only had 1 which shows us working together which means everyone was playing and they helped me win. 4. If the actual people i was boosting with were going to be caught they would have been because the game has obviously already been reviewed. 5. Your either new to Halo or boosting another account since youve barely broke 100 games so either way i dont think you should tell me what to do especially if your actually boosting an account.

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  • 04.14.2009 10:49 AM PDT
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1. Im not a kid. Im probably older than you are. 2. I made a request for where i agreed to it and asked a couple of questions that i was honestly wondering about. If getting achievements is wrong and a bannable offence id like to see it in the ban page itself and in the ban itself. As for the questions, I didnt know seeking knowledge was a bad thing. Have you looked at my games? I hadnt played Halo in two months before the new achievements except two times. I dont play that much. The only time i play Halo is when i dont have anything else to play. To me its a very frusterating game. I get really frusterated with my shots not registering, i get really annoyed with vehicles, and i get frusterated with the fact that elites are allowed in swat and allowed period when its been proven that shots dont register on them depending on where you hit them. Take the other day when i was playing. I was playing Squad Battle on Sandtrap and i got sniped in the face. I saw the bullet hit me in the face. You want to know what it did to me? Nothing. It didnt even drop my shields. That also happens to me all the time. I get tired of going back and watching a film and watching my shots hit people and it just not do anything or vica versa because im not just a victim in it. Halo is either fun or frusterating for me so if there is something else to play or something else i enjoy playing more then i play that. Thats where my sole complaint lies. I dont feel like getting achievements with your friends is wrong and if it is then it should count for skulls as well because essentially its the same thing. I also think the exp ban just helps people boost.

  • 04.14.2009 11:02 AM PDT

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  • 04.14.2009 12:34 PM PDT

All Hail The Crimson King. Tank Dempsey Lives On!

Still haven't gotten a reply from Shiska yet.... By the way I'm banned permenently from file share and matchmaking..... I don't know why....

  • 04.14.2009 1:15 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: lord berfer
Still haven't gotten a reply from Shiska yet.... By the way I'm banned permenently from file share and matchmaking..... I don't know why....


Perm fileshare ban, is for modded content.

Edit: Perm matchmaking ban is for Network Manipulation.

[Edited on 04.14.2009 1:18 PM PDT]

  • 04.14.2009 1:16 PM PDT

Hey i got a really mysterious message saying that i was going to be banned from XBOX Live for 4 days and nothing happened. Im not asking to be banned or anything but i had typed in all caps and posted something about the "stuffwe'renotsupposedtotalkaboutregardingthemythicm apsthatgoesonourspartansinmultiplayer
inonlinehalogames"
yes, now i am afraid to say it.
Post away. I would really like to know what happened.

  • 04.14.2009 1:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: SwungMean
Snippy Snip Mcsnip


In your message you have stated "Show me where achievement boosting and not exp boosting is actually written against the rules that i agreed to" its all here: http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?link=H3Bans

Please note the line:

Types of violation include, but are not limited to, the following example actions.

Meaning that anything considered unsporting or boosting related, even achievement boosting, is prohibited and yes you did agree to this as you have played Halo 3 in MM, if you did not read this prior to playing then its tough im afraid as stated at the front of this entire thread by non other than Shishka:

- If you're cheating to get Achievements, you're still cheating. The banhammer is aimed at the behavior, not the intent. "I was just trying to get Yorick" won't get you out of the EXP ban.


Seems to me that you are not great at reading the small print. Just accept the ban and don't do it again.

Regarding the actual cheating you are doing in game, take a look at this one http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=107470 4184&player=SwungMean seems a tad fishy to me old chum, but don't worry the people who were cheating with you will be tracked down eventually and join you in the Hall of Shame


Case closed. (and don't get abusive in your response)



This guy is right on the money.

  • 04.14.2009 1:58 PM PDT

Posted by: TJFG112
Hey i got a really mysterious message saying that i was going to be banned from XBOX Live for 4 days and nothing happened. Im not asking to be banned or anything but i had typed in all caps and posted something about the "stuffwe'renotsupposedtotalkaboutregardingthemythicm apsthatgoesonourspartansinmultiplayer
inonlinehalogames"
yes, now i am afraid to say it.
Post away. I would really like to know what happened.


Who sent this message? Was it sent via Live?

  • 04.14.2009 2:10 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: TJFG112
Hey i got a really mysterious message saying that i was going to be banned from XBOX Live for 4 days and nothing happened. Im not asking to be banned or anything but i had typed in all caps and posted something about the "stuffwe'renotsupposedtotalkaboutregardingthemythicm apsthatgoesonourspartansinmultiplayer
inonlinehalogames"
yes, now i am afraid to say it.
Post away. I would really like to know what happened.


If this is a message via user, it's a hoax.
If you did recieve a pop up message, it's probably a ban due to inappropriate profile (Motto,Bio,Ect).

  • 04.14.2009 2:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: SwungMean
I lost four games. Why would i lose games on purpose if i was trying to get exp? I want to see where it's cheating. I want you to copy and paste it to me from the tos where you cant join up with friends and get achievements. Show me where achievement boosting and not exp boosting is actually written against the rules that i agreed to. I also want to know why getting skulls with friends isn't considered cheating as well. I also want to know why i was the one who got banned when i got 2 exp and they got like four. I didn't quit to give them exp and they didnt throw the game or quit to give me exp so to call it boosting is retarded and wrong. For them to not get banned and they still havent is wrong. What are these other factors that i need to be aware of? i also dont need you to tell me what to do or not to do with my game. I payed for the maps, my game, xbox live, and my internet bill. If you really want to think about it when i payed for those maps i paid for my achievements that i got the way i wanted to without affecting anyone else. Real exp boosting would be either me or them quitting or how about me actually winning even half of the games or me leveling up another account. I think people leveling up other accounts affects the integrity of the game a lot more than me playing social with my friends to get an achievement like a hammer spree that i have no interest in actually earning. Doesnt being exp banned actually help me to boost in ranked? If i were actually still playing Halo a lot but not having to delevel to get rid of exp because ive been banned from earning it wouldnt that just help me the next time i went into a match since it would probably read it as i should lose depending on how much i played? And if i really wanted to boost exp id be doing it in double exp weekend.


Im not gonna read that wall of text, at least make paragraphs if its gonna be as long as this.

  • 04.14.2009 2:58 PM PDT

lolnope.

I don't even remember getting a warning for uploading modified content on my fileshare. Pretty harsh. Could always be worse though I guess. Cookies of Chaos, you must have your hands full helping shishka answer these questions for people huh? (You don't have to answer that)

  • 04.14.2009 3:58 PM PDT

lolnope.

Oh I do have one question though, or maybe two. In that comment you made to me yesterday about ignorance, did you mean my laziness to look elsewhere for help? And if I asked the bungie webmaster about my fileshare ban could he help?

  • 04.14.2009 4:03 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: Dark Martyr 117
I don't even remember getting a warning for uploading modified content on my fileshare. Pretty harsh. Could always be worse though I guess. Cookies of Chaos, you must have your hands full helping shishka answer these questions for people huh? (You don't have to answer that)


Warning's for fileshare content have been on the site and during searching for a game.

Actully, my hand's are free almost all week, easter holiday's and my work's not intertaining.

  • 04.14.2009 4:30 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: Dark Martyr 117
Oh I do have one question though, or maybe two. In that comment you made to me yesterday about ignorance, did you mean my laziness to look elsewhere for help? And if I asked the bungie webmaster about my fileshare ban could he help?


Ignorance as in not looking at the rules and such, even though they are there for anyone to view, at anytime.

  • 04.14.2009 4:31 PM PDT

lolnope.

Thanks I guess. Enjoy your vacation or holiday thing.

  • 04.14.2009 4:33 PM PDT
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I'm pissed because my roomate went and got his account banned from matchmaking and now I can't play matchmaking with my gamertag because apparently the box was banned as well.

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  • 04.14.2009 5:36 PM PDT

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Is there anyway to just take the xp I illicitly earned off me and remove the ban? I was trying to help a friend with an achievement (I have now read all the ban stuff so I now know Bungie's stance on this). I was not trying to gain xp or rank (it was social).

I just want to be able to play Halo again as I have really started to get into it now. Also, if it is not possible to reverse my xp and the ban, will the ban have any other effects beyond stopping me earning experience for 2 weeks? Effects that aren't obvious now but will become known later on when I try to do something.

Does having this ban exclude me from anything? Like Bungie favourites or getting Recon if I get really good in next years team doubles valentine thing or something. Not that I ever will get those things but I'd like to know so i'm sure, thanks.

  • 04.14.2009 6:20 PM PDT

ANY SPAM WILL RESULT IN A PERMANENT BLOCK.

Can you define "boosting"?

  • 04.14.2009 7:02 PM PDT

All Hail The Crimson King. Tank Dempsey Lives On!

I have never manipulated my connection Cookie. The only thing that has happened to my connection was my dad and brother have turned off my router because the internet was not working on their PCs. I have no modded content and I don't know why I was file share banned. Does Bungie just have some unprecedented grudge against me or what?

  • 04.14.2009 7:08 PM PDT

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  • 04.14.2009 7:32 PM PDT