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Subject: The only "omg I gut EXP banned for NO RAISON" thread

J-H

Posted by: Dynamo Jaxon7
Posted by: MasterJh
No, lesson NOT learned because i now can't get Recon with Halo 3:ODST. It's not fair that i should suffer because my friends are harsh. But anyway, time for someone else to get flamed for telling the truth.


You have a twisted sense of flaming. It's perfectly fair that you get banned from Recon (if that is the case). You broke rules, trying to pass blame on your so called friends is not a valid excuse. It is your gamertag and your responsiblity. You should have stopped playing with your friends if they obviously had no interest playing anymore. If you weren't confident that they were going to play put them in a custom game.

EDIT: Oh Akatsuki good find! I've been looking for that link!

Yeah but I, personally, wasn't cheating; i wasn't trying to boost exp or achievements and i understand that my friends are my responsibility on my console but i just thought someone might see it from my point of view in that i didn't specifically go out of my way to boost anything. Anyway here's hoping Vidmasters will still unlock Recon for everyone...

[Edited on 04.28.2009 4:31 PM PDT]

  • 04.28.2009 3:27 PM PDT

It's always good to know where your friends are (go to my home page URL)

I would say not enough people are banned. It's to the point that I had to turn off my chat settings that were "speakers + headset" and matches come up auto-muted. I have a 7 year old who enjoys watching my games, but it got really bad when I had to tell him every 2 minutes, "OK, now you can't say the word he just said." GOW2, R6:LV and a few others were never this bad, but SR was when kids started playing all the time.

  • 04.28.2009 4:06 PM PDT

Where did that ban thread go...

Posted by: johnnycomelatly
I would say not enough people are banned.


Over 60,000 people have been banned, more are being banned daily, the banhammer will keep banning people. Dont worry, ignore people/report people and "eventually" all the boosters (and every other form of cheater) will be gone.

  • 04.28.2009 4:32 PM PDT

Chocolate milk is FTW and you know it

why i get ban for no reason, it no fair, bungie no like me :(

But Chuck Norris an Mr T like me :)

  • 04.28.2009 4:37 PM PDT

Your not the master chief and its ok.

ok so do you guys ban if something seems like cheating? cuz my friend got his account banned from exp for 2 weeks....he didnt get boosted he only played with me and it was his new account and mine which were high levels and we were winning so he went up fast but its not our fault that his skill was low we just wanted to play with friends. also he didnt boost for acheivements and there is no one else on his 360....all we do is try to win fair and square no cheating yet he still got an exp ban....could you help me? cuz we play alot and he should have gotten like 500 exp and now his account looks crappy cuz his games go up but his exp doesnt

  • 04.28.2009 8:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Rykonos
ok so do you guys ban if something seems like cheating? cuz my friend got his account banned from exp for 2 weeks....he didnt get boosted he only played with me and it was his new account and mine which were high levels and we were winning so he went up fast but its not our fault that his skill was low we just wanted to play with friends. also he didnt boost for acheivements and there is no one else on his 360....all we do is try to win fair and square no cheating yet he still got an exp ban....could you help me? cuz we play alot and he should have gotten like 500 exp and now his account looks crappy cuz his games go up but his exp doesnt


Can't really "help" without a gamertag. What you described him being a low level and you being a high level is not boosting.

[Edited on 04.28.2009 11:44 PM PDT]

  • 04.28.2009 11:32 PM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: MasterJh
yes i DID get the Zombie achievements when my guests weren't playing


Posted by: MasterJh
Yeah but I, personally, wasn't cheating; i wasn't trying to boost exp or achievements


I am confused, one minute you said you were achievement boosting, now you are saying you were not....

Anyway, when its all said and done the Banhammer attacks the behaviour, so when it detects a guest laden game going on with very little movement and the achievements are unlocked its akin to waving a red flag infront of a bull....

Ok you said your mates did this and that, I am not disproving nor suggesting this is false as it is not my part, nor anyone's, on this thread to suggest otherwise as it cannot be proven/disproven. All guys like myself, Atasuki, Dynamo and Cookie are pointing out is what has happened to justify the ban.

Anyway here's hoping Vidmasters will still unlock Recon for everyone... IMO one of the biggest mistakes was to create this Recon armour, its caused nothing but trouble from day 1.

Posted by: Rykonos
ok so do you guys ban if something seems like cheating? cuz my friend got his account banned from exp for 2 weeks....he didnt get boosted he only played with me and it was his new account and mine which were high levels and we were winning so he went up fast but its not our fault that his skill was low we just wanted to play with friends. also he didnt boost for acheivements and there is no one else on his 360....all we do is try to win fair and square no cheating yet he still got an exp ban....could you help me? cuz we play alot and he should have gotten like 500 exp and now his account looks crappy cuz his games go up but his exp doesnt


Judging by your high level of EXP penalties I am suggesting perhaps that you were involved with NegExp activities:

Quitting 1
Quitting 2 are just two of many examples

Your chums that you play with that "all we do is try to win fair" are XxMBBxX Grenade and XxMBBxX Hopity and judging by the matches they tend to quit out a lot, for example:.

Quitting With a lifetime NegExp of -38, all in games which you he/she was losing...so if this is the correct person I am talking about he/she has been banned for quitting out of matches due to the fact they were losing at the time.

Same goes for your other mate XxMBBxX Hopity :
Quitting

I mean, if you are going to quit out of matches because you are losing don't be daft and do it together over and over and over, it just makes the banhammer's job much much easier.


[Edited on 04.29.2009 12:55 AM PDT]

  • 04.29.2009 12:34 AM PDT

J-H

I meant that i DID take advantage of the fact they weren't playing but i didn't specifically go out of my way to get the achievements, i was walkign aroung Orbital whilst they were inactive and i saw them and thought "oh, i might aswell get the achievements". But anyway, water under the bridge now, couldn't really be bothered with my ban because it ends on Friday and if i don't get Recon with the Vidmasters then who REALLY cares because all it is is a skin for your Spartan and it will be like the new Hayabusa (in that everyone will have it in about a week)

  • 04.29.2009 2:55 AM PDT
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i cheated to get like all my MM achivements and never got banned sucks for all u guys

  • 04.29.2009 3:13 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: MasterJh
I meant that i DID take advantage of the fact they weren't playing but i didn't specifically go out of my way to get the achievements, i was walkign aroung Orbital whilst they were inactive and i saw them and thought "oh, i might aswell get the achievements". But anyway, water under the bridge now, couldn't really be bothered with my ban because it ends on Friday and if i don't get Recon with the Vidmasters then who REALLY cares because all it is is a skin for your Spartan and it will be like the new Hayabusa (in that everyone will have it in about a week)


Well there you go then, no problems.

Posted by: cntryguy146
i cheated to get like all my MM achivements and never got banned sucks for all u guys


If this is true then it will catch up with you, only a matter of time, although the last achievement you earned was "Road Rage Saturday, December 20, 2008" so you don't have all the MM achievements as you are missing the Mythic lot.

So I think you are being silly for the sake of it.


[Edited on 04.29.2009 3:51 AM PDT]

  • 04.29.2009 3:47 AM PDT
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Hey OP, you spelt "reason" wrong. Got is also wrong.

[Edited on 04.29.2009 3:52 AM PDT]

  • 04.29.2009 3:52 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: hockey monkey
why i get ban for no reason, it no fair, bungie no like me :(

But Chuck Norris an Mr T like me :)


I think it might be down to over 1000 EXP penalty points...listed on the below link:

Mr T doesn't like quitters

  • 04.29.2009 5:35 AM PDT

J-H

I don't understand how leaving a game counts as cheating...i mean i know it could affect the outcome of the game and who gets exp but it's not like the person that leavs gets exp or rank or anything, is it?

  • 04.29.2009 6:03 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: MasterJh
I don't understand how leaving a game counts as cheating...i mean i know it could affect the outcome of the game and who gets exp but it's not like the person that leavs gets exp or rank or anything, is it?


You didn't get banned for that, more than likely it was the achievement boosting.

If we played against each other say with 2 guests each and you quit out with your two guests because you were losing, then I would be pretty annoyed as it would show you are a poor loser and it takes away something from my experience of the game.

Getting banned for quitting only happens when its a chronic problem with the player, once or twice here and there isn't going to raise any eyebrows, but people with a small clump of quitting may get punished.

Don't mean to sound rude but your arguements against your ban are not valid.

  • 04.29.2009 6:51 AM PDT

J-H

Do you not realise that i was just asking a question? I KNOW i wasn't banned for leaving a game because in my "boosting spree" i quit one game because my friend disconnected nad it was just me and my guests. I was askign that question because someone else was saying that someone got exp banned for quitting a thousand games.

  • 04.29.2009 7:03 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: MasterJh
Do you not realise that i was just asking a question? I KNOW i wasn't banned for leaving a game because in my "boosting spree" i quit one game because my friend disconnected nad it was just me and my guests. I was askign that question because someone else was saying that someone got exp banned for quitting a thousand games.


Yes I did and you got an answer regarding it using a hypothetical scenario and a brief explanation into the detection of quitting:

"Getting banned for quitting only happens when its a chronic problem with the player, once or twice here and there isn't going to raise any eyebrows, but people with a small clump of quitting may get punished too"

  • 04.29.2009 7:25 AM PDT

J-H

Ma bad.

  • 04.29.2009 8:01 AM PDT

Your not the master chief and its ok.

First off what do you mean i must be involved in negexp? ive had this games since the exact day it came out and so a -178 exp loss isnt that bad saying that i have parents who at random will tell me to get off. My connection would be fine then all of a sudden i would have a red bar and get lagged out all because we have 5 computers. so its not my fault i got lagged out or quit out cuz my parents made me go somewhere. also my friends have the same problem that they have parents...we dont quit just cuz we are losing we quit becuase we are lagged out or theres no reason to play because the other team is so laggy we die for no reason.

  • 04.29.2009 3:31 PM PDT
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Well actually i was not banned but i was suspended, can any one help me with why?? It did not give me a reason it just said

"You have been suspended form Xbox LIVE. You will not be able to sign in to Xbox LIVE until 4/30/09"
I
wonder why i was suspended from Xbox LIVE, to my knowledge i have not done anything wrong. Can any one explain to me whyyyy? =( Has this happend to any one else??

  • 04.29.2009 10:12 PM PDT

Posted by: KANKS27
Well actually i was not banned but i was suspended, can any one help me with why?? It did not give me a reason it just said

"You have been suspended form Xbox LIVE. You will not be able to sign in to Xbox LIVE until 4/30/09"
I
wonder why i was suspended from Xbox LIVE, to my knowledge i have not done anything wrong. Can any one explain to me whyyyy? =( Has this happend to any one else??


Inappropriate content on your LIVE profile.

  • 04.29.2009 10:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Rykonos
First off what do you mean i must be involved in negexp? ive had this games since the exact day it came out and so a -178 exp loss isnt that bad saying that i have parents who at random will tell me to get off. My connection would be fine then all of a sudden i would have a red bar and get lagged out all because we have 5 computers. so its not my fault i got lagged out or quit out cuz my parents made me go somewhere. also my friends have the same problem that they have parents...we dont quit just cuz we are losing we quit becuase we are lagged out or theres no reason to play because the other team is so laggy we die for no reason.


Regardless, you are not the one that is banned correct? Your friend may be neg exp boosting or habitual quitting for other reasons.

  • 04.29.2009 10:42 PM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: Dynamo Jaxon7
Posted by: Rykonos
First off what do you mean i must be involved in negexp? ive had this games since the exact day it came out and so a -178 exp loss isnt that bad saying that i have parents who at random will tell me to get off. My connection would be fine then all of a sudden i would have a red bar and get lagged out all because we have 5 computers. so its not my fault i got lagged out or quit out cuz my parents made me go somewhere. also my friends have the same problem that they have parents...we dont quit just cuz we are losing we quit becuase we are lagged out or theres no reason to play because the other team is so laggy we die for no reason.


Regardless, you are not the one that is banned correct? Your friend may be neg exp boosting or habitual quitting for other reasons.


Spot on, to the banhammer it looks like behaviour worthy of being banned.....it can only detect the behaviour not the intent....

  • 04.30.2009 12:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dynamo Jaxon7
Posted by: KANKS27
Well actually i was not banned but i was suspended, can any one help me with why?? It did not give me a reason it just said

"You have been suspended form Xbox LIVE. You will not be able to sign in to Xbox LIVE until 4/30/09"
I
wonder why i was suspended from Xbox LIVE, to my knowledge i have not done anything wrong. Can any one explain to me whyyyy? =( Has this happend to any one else??


Inappropriate content on your LIVE profile.
Yeah. KANKS27, if you look at your profile on XBox.com right now, it says "Code of Conduct" for your name, bio, location, etc. You'll want to change those, but keep it appropriate this time.

  • 04.30.2009 3:07 AM PDT
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I would like for a Bungie member or someone who knows about this to help me. I got EXP banned and I think it is about up by now but I wanted to know the actual reason I got banned. I am not totally sure. I have read the ban rules and I know two out of the four I did not do:

* Modifying your Xbox 360 hardware or Halo 3 software in any way.
* Impersonating a Bungie employee on Xbox LIVE with intent to defraud or cause harm to other players.

Since i got EXP banned does this mean I can't get Recon anymore?

I also want to point out that this is not my way of asking or being annoying only a simple gesture of me being confused. I am not asking for Recon in any way. I know realize that I have to make Bungie feel I deserve it not earn it by a certain criteria.

For the other two, I am not 100% sure about:

* Manipulating network conditions to give yourself an advantage, or to the detriment of the experience for other players.
* Skill or XP Boosting, deleveling, cheating or any other type of unsociable and unsportsmanlike behavior.

The only possible solutions to which could resulted me in a visit from the ban hammer is:

* I have once put three other characters in a matchmaking game and left them sitting there.
* I have gathered with friends to get certain achievements and got a few medals I did not get "on my own".
* I quit about 5 games in a row some on accident some being booted for accidents.

I want to post further more that I hope by me posting my counterfactual deeds that it will not ban me further more. I hope by posting this, I can undoubtedly harness the knowledge to know what not to do so that I can stay away from the ban hammer as far as possible.

If anyone as any clue to as why I might be banned or what comes with this ban please let me know.

As to "what come with this ban" I simply mean is it just a simple warning as said by Shishka or is there more to this ban?

Also I want to point out that when I got with friends and did the achievements it was a while ago from when I actually got EXP banned. It could still be that reason I am just doubtful.

[Edited on 04.30.2009 4:50 AM PDT]

  • 04.30.2009 4:40 AM PDT

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Can someone make this clear for me please, Shishka mentioned that you can get banned for cheating with achivements, does that mean if you worked together with a bunch of people you met online before the match starts you can get banned????

PM please! thankyou.

  • 04.30.2009 4:45 AM PDT