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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 10/10/08

After reading this Q&A for Halo 3 :Recon, I'm sorta looking for it as a 40$ game expansion that''ll waste some time. I wish, that you'd guys would make it, a side story rather than expansion, since you know...copying and pasting some things with a different story and tad different gameplay doesn't mean it's going to be as good as Halo 3...Also, the Q&A, didn't really get me excited, will the ODST work in squads? Or is it just you, I know it's not squad-based shooter, but in Halo Series, you usually had a few marines with you that or some ODSTs...so yeah...will they work with you throughout the story, or is it ODST mainly one guy like Mainly Spartain 117....this will be be Mainly ODST Michael or w.e ...

  • 10.10.2008 10:08 PM PDT

Posted by: malignes
After reading this Q&A for Halo 3 :Recon, I'm sorta looking for it as a 40$ game expansion that''ll waste some time. I wish, that you'd guys would make it, a side story rather than expansion, since you know...copying and pasting some things with a different story and tad different gameplay doesn't mean it's going to be as good as Halo 3...Also, the Q&A, didn't really get me excited, will the ODST work in squads? Or is it just you, I know it's not squad-based shooter, but in Halo Series, you usually had a few marines with you that or some ODSTs...so yeah...will they work with you throughout the story, or is it ODST mainly one guy like Mainly Spartain 117....this will be be Mainly ODST Michael or w.e ...

This is merely a stab but I think it is going to work like call of duty style. Where it is a we.

  • 10.10.2008 10:11 PM PDT
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Short, but certainly sweet. Even though I kind of wished for more things aside from Halo 3: Recon, this is a great job in clearing the smoke of questions the fans have. Nice work guys.

  • 10.10.2008 10:18 PM PDT

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You said it is using the Halo 3 engine? No offence, but please make the faces look better thanx

  • 10.10.2008 10:19 PM PDT

Thanks for the update!

I just have a few questions if you could clarify:

Recon will be disc-based, meaning we pop the disk in, and play from the disc, correct? (as opposed to using a disc to install the game to the hard-disk)

I am also a little confused on how the multiplayer component will integrate into Halo 3. I know we will not play as ODSTs, but will Recon have a distinctly separate matchmaking environment, or will Halo 3 still be the place for matchmaking while Recon will offer up to 4-player co-op?

Thank you again.

  • 10.10.2008 10:21 PM PDT

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Nice. Now I have no more questions. [i]Actually, I do, but you wouldn't answer them.[/b] I'm really looking forward for this. And now back to Halo 3 and waiting for Mythic Maps.

  • 10.10.2008 10:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shishka
Clearing up some questions with some answers about Halo 3: Recon.



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I have another question: In terms of achievements and such, will Halo 3: Recon be counted as a part of Halo 3 or a different game? I know you've explained about multiplayer achievements, but for example, when the 1000 GS of achievements is out for the campaign, will they be added to our Halo 3 achievements when unlocked, or to a separate Halo 3: Recon achievement list?

I guess it doesn't really matter, but I just wonder because it is a Halo 3 Campaign extension, and the trailers are available under Halo 3 on the marketplace, but if it's on a different disk will Xbox Live regard it as a separate game?

(Call me obsessive compulsive, but I'd just prefer it if all the achievements were kept in one place.)

  • 10.10.2008 10:26 PM PDT

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Now I have two questions.

1. If there is co-op campaign then will the other three players be ODST as well? because the trailer kind of lead us to believe that you are a lone survivor of a drop gone wrong.

2. If this takes place right after regret left, Why are the brutes the main military force for the covenent? Dosen't the coupe take place much later on in the game?

I would just like a clearity here.

  • 10.10.2008 10:26 PM PDT

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Dude this is awesome news, great job Bungie. Though i have one question, so is 'Recon' going to be the last game in the Halo trilogy or is it the last game in the Halo universe?

  • 10.10.2008 10:28 PM PDT
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Lukems, if you buy the DLC Mythic Maps from the marketplace will there be a seperate expansion pack that doesn't include the already purchased maps at a less expensive retail price?

p.s. I think this question is a good one.

  • 10.10.2008 10:28 PM PDT

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  • 10.10.2008 10:31 PM PDT

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SWEET! Page 9! Anyway, I am looking forward to H3R. I think it will be a great addition to the Halo canon. It's going to be different playing as an ODST, but I am sure that it is going to be just fine.

  • 10.10.2008 10:35 PM PDT
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[quote]They had the update because they wanted to inform their fans of their new material that is up coming. Please do not discourage early material.

Either way people don't like them - if they don't release information fans get annoyed. If they do release information, people like you get annoyed.

I like any and all information - keep it coming![quote]


What he said. Bungie even though u keep our cups overflowing with teasers, games, and all out greatness, its hard to please the most rabid fans in the world. If there isnt enough info they rant, when u slap them with the goodness of a expansion of the HALO universe they still say its not enough. I would not want to walk in your shoes BUNGIE, but then again its hard work being on top.

H3 RECON looks awsome! Thank you!

  • 10.10.2008 10:38 PM PDT

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Using the same engine..... does this mean that the game is going to run at 640p or are you shooting for a higher rez?

  • 10.10.2008 10:47 PM PDT
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Now nobody needs to go asking Bungie for Recon - we just have to be patient lol!

Posted by: theguysmiley 2
Recon will be disc-based, meaning we pop the disk in, and play from the disc, correct? (as opposed to using a disc to install the game to the hard-disk)


The Xbox 360 experience thingy should come out before then, which enables games to be played directly from the hard drive. Perhaps the Recon disc will act as an alternative 'key' after both games are copied, so you can still use the H3 maps and matchmaking along with the Mythic pack.

Anyone else think I'm on the right track here?

- Switchblade

  • 10.10.2008 11:13 PM PDT

I am just wondering if there will actually be new gun(s) in halo 3 multiplayer since in the recon video he has a new gun with a silencer on it.

  • 10.10.2008 11:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mava665
Ergh... I still want to know how close the Mythic Maps are to completion. Not to being released, but to completion. I want to know this because I've heard numerous times that they're already done, and if they are, and Microsoft's the reason they're not being released-well lets just say what I was about to say if recorded would be able to have me locked up for a long time. God so help me, I want those maps bad. I also of course, love Halo 3 recon. And while the Mythic Map Pack's realeae incures my wrath, I cannot wait for Halo 3 recon, but I will do just that. I look forward to seeing people realize what is possible with a extra disk. Ah well-as the night is at its darkest, and even the moon's light is unseen, covered by are uncertainty, exitement, and passing, I look onward, through the sweeping black clouds, toward the dawn.


Well, when games are completed, and they are on any console, but specifically xbox or xbox 360, they have to go through cert. Cert = Certification. Any Content whether it be a game, a picture pack, or some new maps for Halo 3, have to be thrououghly tested and then must undergo certification. Dependent on how big the project is, and how much Bungie is willing to pay, directly reflects how long it takes to go through this process. But, when I was a tester on PGR4, the game was out on store shelves roughly 2 1/2 months after all testing was done on it. The demo, that hit the Xbox 360 market place was on there roughly 1 1/2 months afterwards.

So, at this time, I'm guranteeing you that they aren't done, close enough to done that they can set a date, but not close enough to where they say within 3 months. It is October, and they are saying winter for release. That means anytime between December and roughly the end of March. So, they could be within 2 months or roughly 4.

They aren't done yet to answer your question. They must go through rigorous testing to ensure that everything in the maps functions the way it is supposed to and they must ensure that there are no exploits on it.

Have fun waiting. I'm too busy being a tester to have time to play halo 3 that much. :(

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  • 10.10.2008 11:31 PM PDT

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I hope to god they come out with a new gun that will finally balance the game that is between ARs and BRs....

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I used to be a full fledged MLG fanboy..... but I got a new full time job working @ VMC working on a Microsoft contract through Volt. So, I don't have the time to be a MLG fanboy... especially with school full time on top of it....

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I am just wondering if there will actually be new gun(s) in halo 3 multiplayer since in the recon video he has a new gun with a silencer on it.

  • 10.10.2008 11:36 PM PDT

i still don't understand if the ODST we play as has a shield like MC or not, and also if people with the H3R disk can play with ppl thru multiplayer who have the H3 disk in. help any1?

  • 10.10.2008 11:45 PM PDT

Nice update, that's cleared quite a few things up for me. Hopefully we'll be able to see some pics of the mythic maps soon if they're going to be released early next year.

  • 10.11.2008 12:23 AM PDT

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That answered some questions, thanks.

  • 10.11.2008 12:26 AM PDT
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So Recon is essentially like The Halo 3 game disc, except the regular Halo 3 campaign is replaced with the Recon Campaign, correct?

You can go into regular multiplayer, etc on that disc like Halo 3, but the campaign is just a different one, right?

That's cool....but isn't that a waste of money for anyone who already HAS Halo 3? Shrewed business practices there....Sell us the recon campaign with half of what we already have (That will include the Mythic map pack most of us will be getting) just because that's the only way to get it...

Believe me, I am not ragging on anyone here. I'm just wondering why that is.

  • 10.11.2008 12:34 AM PDT
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I know most likely nobody who has any power or opinion to do anything about it, Yet I would like you guys to know that you guys are going to try and change too much and it will ruin a lot for Bungie. For instance I realize it is a completely different type of game, But Jagex I am sure you know ruined Runescape and they did it because of the wilderness and all that with that game (My friends played it more so than me) and some players were unhappy. Well I am sure obviously people have seen this in whats going on with Halo 3, Every game has faults and I think Bungie has to realize that things aren't always going to be perfect, sure things may get annoying and get mad. Striving for perfection could just as very well end up in failure. I don't think it is a smart choice to crack down on every single little thing. Just because there are a few people who complain doesn't mean you take basically everything there is fun in the game, Like come on, boosting? Thats a fault in your system, because they outsmarted you? You plan on banning them? People get mad and they quit their game or they are deleveling. Hmm I would think that maybe if the matching system is better and they don't face players who are 10x better than them, they would not quit. It would be smart of you to listen to what I am saying and realize that the people at Bungie could be ruining the arguable greatest game ever online. I think that sure, you said you were going to make these certain changes, so yes stick to your word on these things, but new changes? I say it would be smart to say no. If you continue to make changes, they will start to make you lose players and in the end that is obviously no good for Bungie at all. I have been playing this series for a long time and I don't want to see it go down the drain. Thank you for reading.

Jordan

P.S. I really think that making an extra 30 achievements and making ranked doubles all dlc required for people to buy your new maps. Is a bad idea. People are already buying your game and playing it nonstop, heck some people even wear halo clothing. Weather its Bungie who makes profit off of that or not. Its still advertisement. Don't get too greedy.

  • 10.11.2008 12:40 AM PDT

I have a question that prolly will NEVER get answered but here it goes. Why cut halo 3 off with master chief and kortana adrift in deep space and just cut the halo games with master cheif there it makes no sence? I mean i and looking forward to recon the trailer alot makes me drool. It just makes no since to cut a game like that ive heard that you guys are spinning it off to a marathon game from halo. Just give us all something to the reason that the games where ended that way and if there is even a .0000001 % chance that there will be a halo 4 after recon.

  • 10.11.2008 12:43 AM PDT

so bungie is saying the mythic map pack is gonna come out in early winter they lied to us those *bleep*

  • 10.11.2008 12:48 AM PDT