Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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Subject: low fps on vista halo 1/ce

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my game sometimes stuters with everything on high, resolution to 1440x900 on windows vista with a Geforche 7600GS also my other sys with a geforche 8600GS also has those stuters.

i have checked my fps with ctrl f12 and it keeps arround 30.
i have vysnc(so its not limited to 30 fps)

i tried to turn settings to no vsynch and deacals off but this doesn't really help anything.

full sys1 specs:
Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHZ Q6600 rev: G0
Nvidia Geforche 8600GS
2Gb ddr2 ram
Windows vista home premium 64 bit sp1 with all the updates + directx updates
2 Seagate barracuda 7200.0 hardedrives in raid 0
res 1680x1050(shortcut change thingy so i can run this)

sys 2
Amd althalon 64 x2 4600+ 2.4 GHZ
2GB of ddr2 ram in dual channel.
Nvidia Geforche 7600GS
Windows vista home premium 64 bit sp1 with all the updates + directx updates
some 250GB hdd 7200 rpm don't know which one it is.
resolution: 1440x900

i also tried to change my nvidia settings like putting aa of and stuff but that doesnt helps either.
admin mode doesn't helps either.
lowering the resolution to 800x600 doesn't helps either
it all helps a little however but only 5 fps or something.

anybody has a idea?
my ati 9800pro in windows xp runs the game fine on 1280x1024.

  • 10.13.2008 12:31 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Edit: DUH sorry, you already tried decals. No idea, sorry.

[Edited on 10.14.2008 4:22 PM PDT]

  • 10.13.2008 10:46 PM PDT
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Well your computer seems to be fine (I got 1.7 ghz processor and half a gb or ram and it does fine on low detail). Have you tried taking the vsync off and seeing if it stops jerking at a steady 30 fps? That's all i can think of tbh.

  • 10.14.2008 5:19 PM PDT
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If it's affecting your mouse movement then try putting disablebuffering in front of your card in the config file. This made everything run a hell of a lot smoother for me as I too was getting these stutters aswell as restricted mouse movement when playing in higher resolutions. The downfall to this is your fps will suffer a little so you'll probably have to end up lowering your res a bit anyway.

Here's a guide


Also, presumably your card info won't be in the config file so hold CTRL while loading Halo, this will bring up your card details that you'll need to insert.

Hope this helps.

  • 10.14.2008 6:16 PM PDT

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already tried that to...
man i really don't know what to do.
even on low res it doesn't works out all that good

  • 10.16.2008 7:33 AM PDT

Wish Halo 3 PC would come out sooner... :(

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already tried that to...
man i really don't know what to do.
even on low res it doesn't works out all that good
Nvidia is known to cause problems with Halo 1.

  • 10.18.2008 7:41 AM PDT
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I will asume that around 30 means 24? - The later nvidia drivers for Halo 1 is crap imo - even their last fix doesnt more then decrease the issue a little (very little).Anyway the 158.18 driver fixed these issues but even after writing repeatedly to nvidia they wont reply =/
I would recommend to find it and try it.

[Edited on 11.14.2008 12:11 PM PST]

  • 11.14.2008 12:09 PM PDT
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The problem is Vista.

  • 11.14.2008 2:20 PM PDT
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The problem is NOT Vista (why would one driver from nvidia have no problems with halo then? - dont ask me why but ive gone through alot of their drivers and this one solves the issue, i'm not alone about having no problems with halo pc after installing this driver.).
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I'll post an update if i recall once ive installed my new ATi card - i have now swapped for good after a last letter without reply, i can understand that they might be unable to fix this issue but ignoring me throughout after being a loyal customer for quite a few years...
It's like creative all over again - lol.

[Edited on 11.30.2008 12:41 PM PST]

  • 11.30.2008 12:37 PM PDT
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I've had two nVidia cards in my machine for a brief period of time and they both ran HPC horribly.

Not good news since I'd totally forgotten about this and just ordered an nVidia to replace my ailing X850 XT PE. Oops.

  • 11.30.2008 1:31 PM PDT

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Firstly, why are you running Vista 64bit with only 2GB of RAM? Upgrade to at least 3GB if not 4GB, your likely getting a performance hit because you don't have enough RAM.


Second, the problem with Halo PC is, and always has been, Gearbox optimized the code for the drivers/hardware available when it released. There are only two ways to get Halo PC to run smoothly. You can test each driver release to see which one works best on your hardware, OR, build a powerhouse of a machine that can muscle past the inefficient code.

For example, I could run Halo PC wonderfully using a GeForce 4 Ti 4200, 64MB VidRam, 512MB SysRam, and a 2.4GHz P4 (pre-hyper threading), at 1280x1024, full graphics settings.

However, a few nVidia driver updates later, and the game started to perform poorly. When that card died and I upgraded to a GeForce 5500, the game was unplayable even at 800x600 and all settings set to minimum.

My friend found the same issue with his GeForce 6800, and GF7600. The latest driver updates from nVidia, combined with an upgrade to 1GB SysRam, have thankfully allowed me to at least get playable frame rates using my GF5500, but the biggest tell is that my friends new Alienware system, dual GeForce 8800's in SLI and a Core 2 Duo at 2.6GHz, can run Halo at 1280x1024 and full settings, at good frame rates. Going higher though is too much even for it...

...when running XP. He has a Vista Ultimate 32bit partition, and Halo runs better on it (Higher frame rates, no stutter at all, even between zones), and can go to higher resolutions without problem.

On top of that, your running a 64bit operating system, aside from the fact that graphics drivers for 64bit Windows are not exactly up to par compared to their 32bit cousins, Halo PC is, again, optimized for a 32 bit environment, your running into tons of overhead as the game tries to make sense of the 64bit environment.

Bottom Line: If you want to run Halo PC on 64bit Vista, you need to upgrade your RAM and get much more powerful graphics cards. Otherwise, it should run acceptably if you switch to 32bit Vista, and run it at lower resolutions.

  • 12.02.2008 12:24 PM PDT

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

^^

so basically even close to two years ago with a single 6800 on an athlon x2 2 GB ram I ran halo pc on vista 32bit close to what your friend runs(good framerates)?

I don't understand what you people do to your PCs to make them run poorly. For me

6800 GT vista 32 bit-ran in the hundreds most of the time 1280x860 max(no sli support at the time)
6800 GT sli xp 32bit 1280x960 in the hundreds almost all of the time.
7900GTX notebook version always in the hundreds vista and XP
8800GTX in the hundreds all of the time on both an old athlon x2 and new q9450. 32 and 64bit. 1600x1200 max minus decals.

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  • 12.02.2008 6:59 PM PDT

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Well when I said "good" I meant 100+fps, max in game settings, and nVidia software settings at 4xAA and 8xAF, when we tested four years ago. He's not an FPS fan sadly.

I can't comment on your 1600x1200 resolution figure however, as my friend only has a 19" monitor, but assuming that rig is optimized, I can see it happening, though I would be impressed.

  • 12.02.2008 9:44 PM PDT
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My 7800 has always run it perfectly. On the other hand, Halo PC had some trouble with my Athlon 4200 X2, but that was quickly resolved by the dual-core optimizer.

  • 12.02.2008 9:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Well there is your problem, AA doesn't work in HPC so don't bother and AF hardly takes a hit.

  • 12.02.2008 10:45 PM PDT

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Thats not that strong of a card, try setting detail to medium, I wouldn't be too upset, I'm stuck with my integrated nVidia Geforce 6150 410 graphics card, and it jerks a lot with everything on low.

  • 12.09.2008 4:19 PM PDT

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woohoo got a new ati radion 4670 and i am getting fps over 400 sometimes now i locked vsynch. it still runs smooth its just the nvidia drivers... stupid nvidia ow well they don't listen to there costumers...

and i have ati now:)

  • 12.26.2008 2:45 PM PDT
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I have a 9600 GSO and I run it fine so I doubt its an nvidia problem =V.

  • 12.26.2008 3:40 PM PDT
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Do you have any other programs running when you try to run the game? It's best to make sure the only thing running besides required system processes is the game. Also, are you playing single or multi? My computer runs an AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ 2.9 GHz, 4GB RAM and 512 MB NVIDIA 9600 GT, and single runs fine, but multi likes to drop the framerate, even though the maps and lighting and such aren't as detailed as the single maps.

  • 12.30.2008 10:14 AM PDT