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Subject: What the Forerunners Are.
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Yes, another Forerunner topic. So what? I find the discussion interesting.

After reading many, many debates about the Forerunner, here is what I think they are, and their purpose.

The Forerunners, in Halo, are supposed to be God. But they are not God, they are merely a species, like Humans or the Covenant Aliens, that are very, very smart.

Instead of being a long time ago, I think that the Forerunners are actually in the future. Firstly, perhaps they did not create the Flood. The Flood is a virus. It could have evolved. So say the Flood evolved, eh?

Well then, they evolve sometime a long way into our future, and the Forerunners have to deal with it. They create Ring Worlds, the Halos, to destroy all sentient life so that the Flood will die out. Now, who activates the Ring?

A soldier similar to Master Chief, of course.

Think about it. 343 thinks that MC has activated the Ring before. However, 343 is an A.I construct. I believe that if he went back in time, he would not even realize the difference, and instead think that time was continuing on.

What is all this talk about back in time?

The Forerunners have an artifact that will let them go back in time, or put things back in time. What if the Covenant are all crazy and worship some Species that doesn't exist... yet?

But yet, they do exist. For while they have not yet evolved, they have evolved in the future and gone back in time. So the Covenant are worshipping a Species that has not yet evolved, yet exists at the same time.

So, the Forerunners exist in the future, but they create the Ring Worlds to use as a temporary place to store the Flood. But then they realise that the Flood are much, much to dangerous, so they send The Ring Worlds back in time. However, the Ring Worlds were activated before being sent back in time. But 343 doesn't know he was sent back in time, so he thinks that Halo is being activated for the second time, when in reality, it is the first time. Confusing eh?

I just thought I'd throw that out there. And I labelled the topic clearly, so no flaming because I "posted another Forerunner topic" ;)

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  • 07.02.2004 7:59 PM PDT
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What if the Forerunners are a race of being in which all life came from.

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what if the forerunners are grunts

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what if the flood are forerunners

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if the flood are the forerunners then who built the ring?

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I like the theory of a "Noah's Arc' situation that some guy posted on this forum a bit ago.

Simply goes like this:
The Flood (DNA) were created by the Forerunners to recreate any species that became extinct. The DNA of the flood was that deverse that the DNA of another creature could be injected and the flood would turn itself into that creature. Kind of like a blank canvas for all life which could breed any known creature.

The Flood were just basic life (like cluster of a few cells, something very primitive) so when DNA of other creatures were introduced it could grow into that specific creature.

The Flood and the DNA of every known creature was kept on these installations (Halo) so if any creature became extinct (due to famine, drought, war, disease, loss of habitat etc.) they could be bred on the installation and either kept or sent back to the home planet.

The DNA of the Flood mutated and rather than primitive life (a cluster of cells) they began to form their own sentient life (the little popping things). Because of the diverse DNA, they could merge with any other creature (with sufficient biomass, meaning larger than the popping things) quite easily. This made The Flood extremely dangerous and The Forerunners tried their hardest to hold back the mutated creatures The Flood had contaminated.

As they were doing this, they adapted the generators of the installation so that it would fire a huge pulse, killing anything within a certain radius (I forget the figure) that has sufficient biomass for The Flood to use.

This is a theory that isn't too confusing as it doesn't use any time travel (which is of course possible using the crystal that is mentioned in one of the books). This theory is quite good, but nowhere near as complex and interesting as some of the theories mentioned here.

The thing about The Forerunners been in the future could mean The Forerunners are the evolved version of a creature we know (one of the Covenant Species or Human) is quite plausible.

The artifacts they send back could be to help their previous selves (new technology etc.), hoping that the other species (maybe the ancestors of creatures they are at war with now) doesn't get the techology first. Kind of like helping themselves by helping their predersessors.

What I don't get is the thing about sending the Halos back in time because they are too dangerous to The Forerunners. Wouldn't be more dangerous to a more primitive species like Humans and Covenant? Or maybe they sent it back hoping that the species around at that time are too primitive for space travel and therefore never land on a Halo.

  • 07.03.2004 5:55 AM PDT
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I like the theory of a "Noah's Arc' situation that some guy posted on this forum a bit ago.

Simply goes like this:
The Flood (DNA) were created by the Forerunners to recreate any species that became extinct. The DNA of the flood was that deverse that the DNA of another creature could be injected and the flood would turn itself into that creature. Kind of like a blank canvas for all life which could breed any known creature.

The Flood were just basic life (like cluster of a few cells, something very primitive) so when DNA of other creatures were introduced it could grow into that specific creature.

The Flood and the DNA of every known creature was kept on these installations (Halo) so if any creature became extinct (due to famine, drought, war, disease, loss of habitat etc.) they could be bred on the installation and either kept or sent back to the home planet.

The DNA of the Flood mutated and rather than primitive life (a cluster of cells) they began to form their own sentient life (the little popping things). Because of the diverse DNA, they could merge with any other creature (with sufficient biomass, meaning larger than the popping things) quite easily. This made The Flood extremely dangerous and The Forerunners tried their hardest to hold back the mutated creatures The Flood had contaminated.

As they were doing this, they adapted the generators of the installation so that it would fire a huge pulse, killing anything within a certain radius (I forget the figure) that has sufficient biomass for The Flood to use.

This is a theory that isn't too confusing as it doesn't use any time travel (which is of course possible using the crystal that is mentioned in one of the books). This theory is quite good, but nowhere near as complex and interesting as some of the theories mentioned here.

The thing about The Forerunners been in the future could mean The Forerunners are the evolved version of a creature we know (one of the Covenant Species or Human) is quite plausible.

The artifacts they send back could be to help their previous selves (new technology etc.), hoping that the other species (maybe the ancestors of creatures they are at war with now) doesn't get the techology first. Kind of like helping themselves by helping their predersessors.

What I don't get is the thing about sending the Halos back in time because they are too dangerous to The Forerunners. Wouldn't be more dangerous to a more primitive species like Humans and Covenant? Or maybe they sent it back hoping that the species around at that time are too primitive for space travel and therefore never land on a Halo.


Okay here's what I think, the Forerunners are humans from the future. (that's why 343 recognizes MC because the spartan program was continued) I do not agree with you about the whole sending technology back to help themseelves thing. The reason I think that the ring worlds appear in the past is that they were some kind of secret project. The humans of the future decide that instead of finding new worlds to inhabit they'll make their own. They look to history and find the story of Halo. They think this is a good idea and an easy one (as they have all of the data that Cortanan downloaded from the Control Center) and being Humans, stupidly decide to build some ring worlds.. To ensure that they are not bothered in the construction process and to protect the worlds until such time as they see fit. They take the materials back in time (using the artifact that Doctor Halsey found or another one like it or maybe a combination of the two). They contsruct a few ring worlds with Halo being the flag ship so to speak. They use Halo as the sort of laboratory for the project (if you remember on AOTCR Cortana makes a comment about the weather patterns in the area seem natural and not artificial) The Library was their HQ for scientific research. To popualte this new world and create a balance, the Forerunners tried to create a whole species of super animals that provided lots of food and such. What they got was the Flood by mistake. Being humans they were curious and decided to keep the Flood specimens and study them, rather than destory them. Then something went wrong. There must have been some sort of accident and the Flood got loose. Halo was evacuated (the other ring worlds were being controlled by computers at that time and had no humans or other life forms on them you'll find this is very likely as we are becoming more an more dependant on technology by the day) The scientists and other personel left for their ships to try and escape and a lone Spartan was given the task of retriving the Index and taking it to the control room to activate Halo and stop the Flood. He and the monitor got to the Index but at the last moment the Spartan hesitated (if you remember in Halo the Monitor says something about MC asking him if it were his choice would he do it?) he waits to long and the Flood over take him. Now you may be asking what happened to the others in the Library? They never got out alive, the Flood are to quick and get them all (that's why there are so many when you get to Halo as MC). No one leaves Halo to tell the outside world what happened so no one knows and the rings just lie there as time passes with Halo holding a dark secret inside it). Now you may be wondering about the defenses on Halo. What about the field generators? Well they were originally intended to wipe all electronic data (following the Cole protocol) but were up graded when the Flood were created. If the generators were evr activated they would most likely still carry out their original purpose and destroy all electronic data but we'll never know since Halo was destroyed before its generators were activated but there are still other ring worlds out there like the Monitor said. Perhaps we'll see them in Halo 2.

  • 07.03.2004 6:57 AM PDT