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I'll be on my own side.

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note the "little bit". people are still gonna be -blam!-es and use it all the time


So? Let them. If they want to use the gun, then they can. It is a tool in the game to be used and with these new weapons to balance it out, there will no longer be just "pistol -blam!-es" or "sniper rifle whores". There will be " Battle Rifle Bastards" and " Carbine -blam!-"

No matter what, people are going to complain about the weapon set up somehow. The only way to avoid all of that is to not make Halo 2.


very true.as long as i can toggle pistols on and off in my servers,then im happy.

  • 07.04.2004 12:03 PM PDT
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Bad idea if you can toggle off weapons then that means the developer has given up and is too close to deadline to change it so they just let a way out.

  • 07.04.2004 12:05 PM PDT
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people that cry over power of weapon usally get owned wit it, pistol is by far the greatest weapon in any mulitplayer game that exists the physics and skill to become god with it and dominate tornaments is amazing. with out the pistol halo would have been an average game in my opnion. becuase no elites when u go to tornaments llike plasma pistols really.

n the pistol aint cheap fact of the matter is thers only 2 percent or lless of the millions of peope who play halo that are god with it. it takes skill to be at top like hp-darkman once was and now new faces liek killerN and ogres from the top clan in the world STK take that place. in tops in the world. so dont say the pistol is overpowered cuz 99 percent of people cant even use it to 3 shot all the time. did it ever occur to u that the other weapons are just weak,

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  • 07.04.2004 12:08 PM PDT
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opps

[Edited on 7/4/2004 12:15:40 PM]

  • 07.04.2004 12:15 PM PDT
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Sicfuc, please first of all get an acceptable name and second, please construct your posts corrctly and think of us real people who dont punctuate every other word with "ya know wha aam sayn"

IMO as i said above, the pistol isnt the best, i can still kill you with 4 shots if i have to, but, i can still take down anybody else with any wepaon, with pretty much anything, except maybe a sniper rifle at close range.

The pistol cannot kill in one shot, unless shields are turned off, and only wierdos who call motion tracker "-blam!-dar" ever turn them off, unless you're playing a 16 player rocket match on longest :P

  • 07.04.2004 12:29 PM PDT
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I by far agree, the pistol does not take skill to use effectively. Yeah it's a good weapon, but too good. everyone knows it's unbalanced, those who deny it are just ignorant.

  • 07.04.2004 12:36 PM PDT
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Unbalanced inside multiplayer, and only multiplayer. Campaign is nice and balanced.

  • 07.04.2004 12:40 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

yeah in campaign you cant drop and Elite with 3 head shots. its fine in campaign but in MP its too powerful

  • 07.04.2004 12:44 PM PDT
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Only because Elites use overshields, thats why it takes more hits to take out their shields.

This is to the post before the one above here.

[Edited on 7/4/2004 12:45:57 PM]

  • 07.04.2004 12:44 PM PDT
Subject: Mod. the weapons please! The pistol is cheap!
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How is it that in Legendary you can drill an Elite 6 times in the head with a pistol bullet and not drop him?

The reason why you don't kill him is because they want to make it difficult, and they do that in 3 ways:

more/harder enemies
faster rate of enemy fire
tougher enemies

You might complain, but Ledgendary is meant to be difficult, and 6 pistol shots to an elite's head doesn't sound like too much hard work.

Especially the Golds and the Black Elites! If you are a Spartan and you run off the same energy shield platform how is the pistol so effective in multi-player? It should take the same amount! Any FPS I can think of has pistols as secondary weapons!

Again with the difficulty. Gold and Black elites have stronger shields to make them more difficult to overcome. Also, traditionally, higher ranked soldiers had better weapons/equipment/armour.

Halo isn't just your average FPS, and doesn't comply with any 'FPS rules', like maps for example, or bosses, and so the point about what over FPSes do is irrelevent.

guess I sound bitter, but I'm sick of people leaving games because I don't have pistols and radar on. Does anyone ever use plasma, or had a good old shoot out with assualt rifles? I want to have fun, and I want people to have fun!

I can live without the radar, and not everyone considers blasting people with an AR or Plasma rifle fun. That's your opinion, not everyone elses, and to expect everyone to think in the same way is a little stupid, to be blunt.

Dying in 2-5 sec. is not fun, especially for Noobs! I want Bungie to fix this. -blam!- the "trusty pistol!" I want to have fun again at a game I love...

If you're a n00b, you need to get better. Hell, many years ago, when I first picked up Halo, I sucked at it. I'd die many times, sometimes in quick sucession, but I gradually got better. It teaches you what to do and what not to do, and clearly you don't go charging straight on at a pistol-wielding guy, like I've seen many n00bs do. It makes a headshot very easy, and that's one reason why they die so quick.

And in PC, the pistol is over powered because gearbox sped it ip.

  • 07.04.2004 12:45 PM PDT
Subject: oops

I'll be on my own side.

and where did you hear this?? have you seen an Elite pick up an overshield?? NO so dont make up stupid crap

  • 07.04.2004 12:46 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

i know that Legendary is supposed to be hard. its not that tough to see. im just saying that they should tone down the pistols power a little bit. and it should be harder to kill a Spartan than an Elite because in the books,the MJOLNIR shields are stronger than the Elite shields.

im not a n00b,but im not the best at Halo either. i dont use the pistol that much,but i do sometimes. i dont use it exclusively. i use the AR and plasma rifle mostly,or the AR and shotgun.the pistol doesnt bother me now in Halo 1,because i have it on Xbox and its not online and i dont have XBC so i dont have to worry about people using it online. im sure Bungie has heard the complaints about the pistol and are probably doing something about it(Battle Rifle,Covie Carbine),but if they do put the pistol in Halo 2,i wanna see the Magnum pistol,with more power,but no scope,slower ROF,and less accurate at long range

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I agree though, i think the pistol is unbalanced.

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I am tired of everyone saying the pistol is too powerful. If you keep getting schooled with it, why not pick one up and kill the guy shooting you? Too many people complain about the pistol. Just use the freaking thing. Who cares if it is too powerful? It adds a challenge and fun to the whole game. I hope it returns just as powerful in Halo 2.

  • 07.04.2004 12:52 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

i dont get schooled with it. i know not to charge at someone with a pistol. i know to use different tactics instead of a kamikaze charge.

and if youre tired of people complaining about it,dont enter a thread thats obviously complaining about it.nobody wants to hear your BS

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getn an aceptable name the faw8k? dont talk about my name wtf is el micker my name pwns ur name and my halo skills pwn urs www.0m3n.com top 3 halo clan in world behind STK in world kthanxtakecarebrushurhair

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  • 07.04.2004 1:41 PM PDT

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i thought this thread was dead

  • 07.04.2004 1:43 PM PDT
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nah i usally dont talk trahs or nutin but he had to offend my name. and make fun of my typin im a big meathead wut can i say takecare

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  • 07.04.2004 1:44 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

who would make a big deal about that anyway?? politically correct to the extreme.

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wut?

  • 07.04.2004 1:50 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

he makes a big deal about little things like that. like curse words and stuff. thats like being politically correct

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oyeah i know wut is he mr forum god watchin over everyone.

  • 07.04.2004 1:54 PM PDT
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No actually, i'd just like to point out, i'm 14, and i dont really appreciate people walking round with names like sick -blam!-, see, that went -blam!- for a reason, these words are not meant to be here, and it takes just as long to type properly (unless you're a retard) but it makes life much better for everyone, i cant even read your posts properly!

  • 07.04.2004 2:02 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

ah thats why. im 16 and that kind of thing doesnt bother me. but i do agree with the thing about bad grammar.

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All right, I've have been reading this post for two days now, I have more to say.

Here is a link, it is off of this bungie site:

http://bungie.net/Games/Halo/page.aspx?section=Guides&sub section=WeaponsVehiclesMain&page=1

Things You Need to Know:

Hit damage is based on hitting a human opponent with 75 units of health and 75 units of shield - fully charged. So, shooting a player with more than 150 units of damage will kill him. Naturally a shield power-up will give him some extra breathing room.
Hit damage varies based on accuracy of shot. The lower number is for less accurate shots.
All speeds are approximate and may vary in relation to gravity, terrain and conditions.
Melee attacks from behind can be instant kills, regardless of shield strength.
All Melee damage is in the 40-60 unit range - we have repeated it for each weapon for reference purposes.
Projectiles have differing behaviors - from shotgun pellets to fuel rod bolts.
Master Chief (or any Multiplayer character) runs at 15.3mph and walks at 3.5mph.
Headshots - the Sniper Rifle, the human pistol and to a lesser extent, the shotgun, will cause extra - often fatal - damage to the head if aimed correctly.
Availability refers to the weapon or vehicles relative frequency in the single player Campaign.

To continue on at:

http://bungie.net/Games/Halo/page.aspx?section=Guides&sub section=WeaponsVehiclesPages&page=1

M6D Pistol

AVAILABILITY: Common
ZOOM: 2.5x
ROUNDS - DEFAULT: 60
ROUNDS LOADED PER USE: 12
MAX AMMO CAPACITY: 120
ROUNDS FIRED PER SECOND: 3.5
RELOAD TIME: 2.17 seconds
MELEE RATING: 40-60 DU
HIT DAMAGE: 25 DU
HEADSHOT: 1-shot kill (with 0 shields)


Newbies hate it, but pros swear by it and guess who wins in a fight? The standard issue human sidearm may seem underpowered on a purely visual and auditory basis, but like a real pistol, it's every bit as vital as the body part you aim it at. In this case, we recommend the head. Three headshots on a fully shielded human will drop him or her like a sack of burning crap. Why? Because - and not a lot of people know this - the pistol does lethal one-shot headkills. The reason fools don't drop more readily is that unlike the sniper rifle, pistol shots are blocked slightly by shields - but once the shield is gone - a single pop to the head should suffice. Thanks in no small part to its 12.7 mm, semi-armor piercing, high-explosive rounds; it will even come in handy as you take on vehicles by foot.

INSIDER TIP: Although accurate pistol shots will bring down foes very quickly, the effect of two or more teammates using pistols on the same target is devastating. If you have a buddy who'll cooperate, you can take out vehicles and pedestrians almost instantly and from great range. You could also combo with a Plasma Pistol - one overcharge shot followed immediately by one pistol shot to the head is lethal to any shielded foe.


Ending words...

Bungie knew what thery where doing, so how can it be unbalanced when the facts speek for themselves?

Bungie has put up some good FAQ's on weapons, vehicles, and maps. Just got to look for them and use them.

  • 07.04.2004 2:05 PM PDT