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Subject: Script Central> Coup 3 has been shut down.

Posted by: robby118
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Or robby. Infact robby can do it in like 2 seconds he has a script that already adds to the drop down menu.
Done.

*I wasn't sure if this needed to go through the review system or not, but I assure you it's safe.

Nice, thanks robby.

  • 06.30.2010 7:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: robby118
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Or robby. Infact robby can do it in like 2 seconds he has a script that already adds to the drop down menu.
Done.

*I wasn't sure if this needed to go through the review system or not, but I assure you it's safe.

OH NOES THE SCRIPT WASNT REVIEWED ARGGGGGHH.

As you can see the system is dumd and even people who wanted the system are downloading the script.

  • 07.01.2010 2:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: ApocalypeX
Posted by: robby118
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Or robby. Infact robby can do it in like 2 seconds he has a script that already adds to the drop down menu.
Done.

*I wasn't sure if this needed to go through the review system or not, but I assure you it's safe.

OH NOES THE SCRIPT WASNT REVIEWED ARGGGGGHH.

As you can see the system is dumd and even people who wanted the system are downloading the script.

That's because everybody here <3s Robby and his amazing Scripts. I would only actually 'care' about the system if it was from Members who don't make Scripts often.

  • 07.01.2010 3:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Posted by: robby118
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Or robby. Infact robby can do it in like 2 seconds he has a script that already adds to the drop down menu.
Done.

*I wasn't sure if this needed to go through the review system or not, but I assure you it's safe.

OH NOES THE SCRIPT WASNT REVIEWED ARGGGGGHH.

As you can see the system is dumd and even people who wanted the system are downloading the script.

That's because everybody here &lt;3s Robby and his amazing Scripts. I would only actually 'care' about the system if it was from Members who don't make Scripts often.

Why that's an awfully brown nose you have sir.
How many new people come out and release scripts?

  • 07.01.2010 4:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: ApocalypeX
How many new people come out and release scripts?

I didn't mean 'new' as in new Members, I meant 'new' as in people who just started making Scripts and submitting them to this Thread.

[Edited on 07.01.2010 4:12 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2010 4:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Posted by: ApocalypeX
How many new people come out and release scripts?

I didn't mean 'new' as in new Members, I meant 'new' as in people who just started making Scripts and submitting them to this Thread.

Your comprehensive skills are awful. That's what I was talking about. I've seen about 3 new scriptwriters in the last 8 months. All 3 of them just created 1 script, and they posted it in the GM group first.

This whole review system is stupid.
Its the users fault for installing a script.
If someone posts a harmful script it would be detected by 1 of the GM group coders and everyone would be alerted.
Daza & Duardo or any mod can edit the post to remove the link and ban the person. It is a ban worthy offence as stated in the CoC.
Do not post or promote any materials that contain destructive content such as viruses, worms, Trojan horses or other materials that could harm or disrupt another user's computer or would allow others to inappropriately access software or web sites.
If anything a perma ban.

This whole idea came from the image bb code and the editing of coups. Firstly the image bb code has NOTHING to do with scripts, but I guess its easier to blame it on that rather then blame the web team's code. Secondly the coup editing was done by a -blam!- who has nothing better to do. The worst part about it is that people actually cared that their coup v3 was being edited even though they were using coup v4. Apart from that the "Security" questions came.

"Omg this guy can steal you shizz because he hacked coup." Actually no, nothing bad could have happened, only feelings hurt.

This review system was mostly though up by people who I have never even seen posting in this thread before or who don't even have Greasemonkey installed! They just want to bragging right to say "lol i helped create a review system". How often are scripts released?
On average once a week, is there a point of setting up theses guidelines when something is so inactive? No.
Even worse, what happens if I just post my scripts straight here without being reviewed? Oh yeah, nothing.

How many months has scripts been released without a review system?
Why do we need one now?

  • 07.01.2010 5:42 AM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

Apoc is absolutely correct. As soon as the image bug was known and exploited the fingers were pointed at scripts for some bizarre reason. There isn't a need for scripts to be reviewed and there have never been problems with scripts at all in the past.

  • 07.01.2010 5:54 AM PDT

Posted by: BadBall3r47
Apoc is absolutely correct. As soon as the image bug was known and exploited the fingers were pointed at scripts for some bizarre reason.


Everyone actually thought the image bug was because of some script?

...Wow.

  • 07.01.2010 6:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: Omegus Weapon
Posted by: BadBall3r47
Apoc is absolutely correct. As soon as the image bug was known and exploited the fingers were pointed at scripts for some bizarre reason.


Everyone actually thought the image bug was because of some script?

...Wow.
*Epic facepalm*

(@People thinking it was scripts)

  • 07.01.2010 6:05 AM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

Posted by: Omegus Weapon
Posted by: BadBall3r47
Apoc is absolutely correct. As soon as the image bug was known and exploited the fingers were pointed at scripts for some bizarre reason.


Everyone actually thought the image bug was because of some script?

...Wow.
Well, no. But this thread was given a lot of attention with the inclusion of a unnecessary review system being discussed.

  • 07.01.2010 6:05 AM PDT
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"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

Due to this thread, users have been able to elevate their skills for javascript and php and other computer languages. Since that is true, the users with more knowledge have been able to find bugs in the website. Now, no one has posted their findings about these exploits except for one individual, and that exploit was so bad it has hurt the entire Community.

I love having the ability to change what I see on this website. That's why I chose to be in charge of this thread and keep it updated. I don't want this to go away, but I'm now afraid of what your guys may be able to do in the future. It could be worse than what has already been done. I don't care about what the random people who came into this thread posted. I feel it is my responsibility to make sure everyone is safe with these scripts that are posted on this website.

Granted, the exploit last month wasn't due to a script, but due to scripts, and learning new knowledge from theme, the exploit was found.

Daz and I proposed a review system. Perhaps there is another way of doing this though. I don't think we should just be able to post whatever script we want, as I fear one day a script may do something to us or the website that can't be undone.

It seems you guys don't like the review process. What if instead everyone is required to answer certain questions when posting a script. I would then edit the post to indicate whether the user is being truthful.

Example:-What it does:
-Is the xmlHttpRequest object used?:
-Is the GM_xmlHttpRequest object used?:
-Are remote scripts used/required?:
-Does automation of any tasks that would occur manually in a userscript-free environment, occur?:
-Is any private data or information associated with any user(s) (such as usernames, group contents, private messages, etc...) accessed?:
-Is any data or information transmitted outside of the bungie.net domain?:
-Is the location of the page changed at any time?:
-Can a user experience any detrimental effects of using this script?:
-In your opinion, can this script be trusted?:
-In your opinion, is this script safe?:

This script has been approved

-D


Thoughts?

  • 07.01.2010 8:05 AM PDT

Know what I've always worried about? A script that'll actually just steal info from my computer.
>.<
Answering questions and reviews and all? Sounds fine to me.
If a script is worth publishing, then that shouldn't be that much to ask for the safety of everybody involved. The script makers should be EAGER to do it. So I say go for it.

Also... COUP 3 GOT SHUT DOWN?!?
Crazy stuff.

  • 07.01.2010 8:11 AM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

Although I have absolutely no idea how to do anything at all with code (aside from failing at life in general) and rarely chime in in this thread, I am an epic lurker that has been keeping track since day one. Being an organizationfgt, I'd like to put my two cents in.

I think that the answering questions thing is just as silly as review. Review is silly because it decreases the desire to make scripts, because you have to go through a review process in the first place. Many people view it as unnecessary. While it makes everything safer, it doesn't precisely do much for speed. Questions are silly because, obviously, they can't be trusted (we're assuming that a script is being made by a new user here, for easiness) anyway until a "trustworthy" source validates them. Half of that question list I didn't understand at all, and the second half could easily be lied about. Joe Blow could download this script and it could delete system 32 or something--that's safe, right?

Bottom-line is that, as Apocalype said, it is user choice to download a script. That's the bottom-line, and there's simply no getting around it; nobody forces you to download one of these scripts. A review system, in my opinion, is unnecessary because it's simply another bureaucratic device that, honestly, will only serve to make the reviewing parties get larger e-peens and slow down the script submission process.

Now, if the desire is to protect users from bad content (and that's what the desire here is), that's not a bad goal at all. In fact, it can be easily accomplished. In the OP, simply edit in a portion that says that a user script not in the original post of this thread has not been checked for content and is not supported by any member of this site. If it is in the OP, it is determined to be safe by the scripting "powers that be", as it were. Similarly mention that any post that has not been edited with an "-Approved-" tag or something of the like (past whatever page this system is implemented on, of course) does not contain a script that has been checked for content by a scripter/moderator. It would also probably be worthwhile to mention that the content within those scripts is not necessarily bad, merely not checked content. Downloading comes at your own risk if you download non-approved content, et cetera.

Anyway, all that I'm saying is that all of those questions can be lied about and Mr. scripter-man can do his damage regardless; he'd get banned with or without those questions at relatively the same time (in fact, the questions might SLOW a ban and a check of his script rather than speed it up) and the user download rate would be almost exactly the same if not higher due to this perceived sense of security. I see no issue with keeping the system precisely as it is and merely working on an edit-into-the-OP/edit-the-post-with-"approved"-tag system here, skipping the questions because they're silly.

$.02

[Edited on 07.01.2010 8:33 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2010 8:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

The big question is: will posting a script without going through a review process become a bannable offence?

  • 07.01.2010 8:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Now, no one has posted their findings about these exploits except for one individual, and that exploit was so bad it has hurt the entire Community.
That's over-reacting a bit. This "exploit" wasn't even remotely hurtful until some irresponsible people found out.

  • 07.01.2010 11:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Duardo
Now, no one has posted their findings about these exploits except for one individual, and that exploit was so bad it has hurt the entire Community.
That's over-reacting a bit. This "exploit" wasn't even remotely hurtful until some irresponsible people found out.

Which is exactly the reason no one should tell others about the exploit. No one can be trusted because if it gets into the wrong hands it could harm the community, which is what happened in this situation.

  • 07.01.2010 2:19 PM PDT

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Is it possible to make a script for seeing which Users are browsing specific Forums? Kinda like on most other Websites, it says "Total Users online", and "Total users browsing this Forum", with a list of their names.

I take it that even if it were possible, it wouldn't be allowed?

  • 07.03.2010 6:45 AM PDT

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Just an Average Joe...

I like Duardo's idea... I don't like the idea of coming here one day to find this site broken in some way shape or form. Or even something similar to last months incident.

All hail Duardo.

  • 07.03.2010 7:17 AM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

Posted by: Helveck
I like Duardo's idea... I don't like the idea of coming here one day to find this site broken in some way shape or form. Or even something similar to last months incident.

All hail Duardo.
It would only be broken for you if someone made a script that broke the site and you downloaded it.

  • 07.03.2010 7:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Is it possible to make a script for seeing which Users are browsing specific Forums? Kinda like on most other Websites, it says "Total Users online", and "Total users browsing this Forum", with a list of their names.

I take it that even if it were possible, it wouldn't be allowed?

http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/80690.user.js - Who is Online

  • 07.03.2010 7:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: ApocalypeX
http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/80690.user.js - Who is Online

Damn pranks... =/

  • 07.03.2010 8:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Posted by: ApocalypeX
http://userscripts.org/scripts/source/80690.user.js - Who is Online
Damn pranks... =/
Maybe we should have a review system to stop evil pranksters, like Apoc here.

  • 07.03.2010 8:05 AM PDT

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Just an Average Joe...

Posted by: BadBall3r47
Posted by: Helveck
I like Duardo's idea... I don't like the idea of coming here one day to find this site broken in some way shape or form. Or even something similar to last months incident.

All hail Duardo.
It would only be broken for you if someone made a script that broke the site and you downloaded it.


Or if someone learned enough from playing around with it and could come here and do something like they publicly did last month, remember?

[Edited on 07.03.2010 8:07 AM PDT]

  • 07.03.2010 8:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Posted by: Helveck
Or if someone learned enough from playing around with it and could come here and do something like they publicly did last month, remember?
In that case, no review system or set of questions could possibly stop that. Unless we can ban people for learning to code now...

  • 07.03.2010 8:12 AM PDT

@Helveck

Just an Average Joe...

Posted by: Yax
Posted by: Helveck
Or if someone learned enough from playing around with it and could come here and do something like they publicly did last month, remember?
In that case, no review system or set of questions could possibly stop that. Unless we can ban people for learning to code now...


I don't know a lot about coding, this I will admit. But the fact of the matter is if someone is saying, "This can be done and this and this..." And it leads to something being discovered or close to being discovered, maybe it could somehow be prevented?

  • 07.03.2010 8:18 AM PDT