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Subject: The hint hidden in the first published halo ad.
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Posted by: IceDrgn437
See what i honestly think is that the humans ARE the forerunners but niether side knows it yet... Or maybe the covenant do know but feel threatened by the humans/forerunners... To me forerunners sound human related some how...

I think the covenant are looking for another crystal thing like they found on reach... I think that the covenant are trying to take it away from the humans so that they dont figure out they are the forerunners... like the crystal is some kind of key to the forerunner power


that reminds me when ur trying to destroy the autumn(in the maw) doesn't 343gs say that he's shocked because of the loss data on its computers and he says it would be interesting to catch up on all OUR history thats been botherin me for ages! anyways i'm off to play the maw an see exactly wot 343gs says but it's more or less along those lines

  • 07.05.2004 12:59 PM PDT
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If thats true then the Forerunners can't know about it cuze why would they want to kill their own gods by the will of the gods

  • 07.05.2004 1:04 PM PDT
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I think that the forerunners were an advanced race that had its hands full trying to control the flood. They probably went instinct destroying the flood. The Halos were probably built to study how to destroy the flood, which is why 343 said their survival as a race depended on it. They were probably also built as a last resort to stop the flood from infecting everywhere, killing all life within the respective range of their starships. I remember reading in a Bungie interview for IGN that the first time the Covenant encountered the flood was NOT on halo. Maybe they worship the forerunners for saving the universe from the flood? Perhaps they hadn't run into them in a while, but maybe had the wars against the flood recorded in their history's.

As for why the Covenant were not glassing over the earth, I believe it was because the Earth forces still had a sizable Air force barely keeping them at bay. "You can't allow them to maintain orbit", and "If your fighters let up, down here its the god damn apocalypse" I think that the covenant were actually planning to glass over earth, they just hadn't been able to get into position yet. It shows the master chief boarding one of the ships. Maybe after he blows it up the fighters get the edge they need and drive the rest of the ships getting into position away, or at least put them on the defensive. Judging by the fact in the single player demo, that a ship had been shot down and was in New Mombasa for repairs, I believe the Master Chief clears out the air threat, with help from the fighters, before he hits the ground, but one or two manage to escape... They go to new Mombasa to finish it off.

There is also the possibility that the master chief upload Cortana into ship they land ons control center and either use it to shoot down other ones, or simply lock in a collision course with another covenant cruiser =). Well, thats my theory on why they did no glass over earth.

I really don't think the pyramids have anything to do with the forerunners. Bungie could try to do something like that. Maybe some kind of forerunner hidden DEEP inside the earth. I doubt the pyramids would be directly connected though, there is not much mystery left in those, millions of slaves working nonstop at the whim of their phaorohs, because they wanted to build something REALLY BIG to commemorate their deaths and be remembered by the world.
Kind of strayed from topic for a second, but oh well.

Another little thing I would like to put in is my thought, which has been expressed by other people as well, that Humans are the forerunners. Several things make me think this, one is the fact of 343's behavior toward humans "How great it is to have a record of all our lost time" If the forerunners were humans and they created 343, it would stand to reason that 343 would be curious what the hell they had been doing for the past tens of thousands of years. Also 343's expectancy of the master chief to know all of the protocols, I assume that 343 simply assumed that he was from another facility of forerunners to get the station back up and running. When the flood were released 343 simply scooped up the nearest forerunner and hightailed it for the index. Think about it, the facility was made by a race super super advanced, do you think they wouldn't have left safeguards to make sure no one accidentally, or purposely activated the facility? Thats why 343 couldn't reunite the index with the core. Only one of the forerunners had enough authority to do that. Even after the chief betrayed him (kinda) 343 said he would need another.... and also his last cryptic remark, "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? My answer remains the same, the ring must be activated" This represents a curious familiarity with the chief, or at least his race, undoubtably 343 was in that situation before in a crisis, standing there with another forerunner, probably also in some kind of power armor.
To explain why humans weren't as advanced as the covenant, maybe the forerunners were nearly completely wiped out by the flood, except for a small colony, or observation post of earth. seperated from their technology, or most of it, they would eke out life, eventually forgetting their heritage.

I think I typed a little too much again.

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Can someone plz tell what glassing the planet means?

  • 07.05.2004 1:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Echo 513
If thats true then the Forerunners can't know about it cuze why would they want to kill their own gods by the will of the gods


I truthfully have not seen where it says that forerunners were THEIR gods. Maybe the covenant just saw the vastness and amazing technology of the forerunners and figured that only gods could be so powerful. Also, it is possible that the covenant weren't very advanced at all, that it, until the prophets discovered some forerunner technology. Studying that technology they gave them a huge boost in front of humans in terms of technology. It would make sense that they would believe that the technology was the work of the gods at the time they found it. Using the technology they bring other races under their control. Then they discover other artifacts, and become slighty obsessed with finding their gods technology, believing themselves to be their heir to it. They probably knew nothing about the Halo's, but had encountered the flood exploring other forerunner artifacts.

  • 07.05.2004 1:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: IceDrgn437
See what i honestly think is that the humans ARE the forerunners but niether side knows it yet... Or maybe the covenant do know but feel threatened by the humans/forerunners... To me forerunners sound human related some how...

I think the covenant are looking for another crystal thing like they found on reach... I think that the covenant are trying to take it away from the humans so that they dont figure out they are the forerunners... like the crystal is some kind of key to the forerunner power


that reminds me when ur trying to destroy the autumn(in the maw) doesn't 343gs say that he's shocked because of the loss data on its computers and he says it would be interesting to catch up on all OUR history thats been botherin me for ages! anyways i'm off to play the maw an see exactly wot 343gs says but it's more or less along those lines


I found that interesting as well. and another thing, this may have been said already but when you start Two betrayels and Cortana says Halo was designed to starve the flood by killing its food, 343gs says Its "more or less true and that once the others are activated this universe will be quite devoid of life or any with enough biomass to sustain the flood" but the most interesting part is that he says, "But you already knew that" as if MC should know that and goes on to say. "We have followed outbreak contaiment procedure to the letter" as if he should know what that procedure is.

  • 07.05.2004 1:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Echo 513
Can someone plz tell what glassing the planet means?


Using laser and crap like that from outer space to blast the surface of the planet to hell, and since their weapons impact causes so much heat, sand would litereally be turned into glass

  • 07.05.2004 1:14 PM PDT
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thx

  • 07.05.2004 1:17 PM PDT
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this is awsome keep up the good work.....someone write bungie an see if we can get them 2 say anything about this....hes right those are nukes not plasma

  • 07.05.2004 1:22 PM PDT
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Well if there are more Halo's then that must mean that there are other lifeforms near them, but the flood cant fly space ships so the only way to get to the other life forms would be for them to come to the flood.....so then maybe there will be other races that come into play in the 2nd Halo, and could the Forerunners be an ancient Covanant race that didnt know about the flood and in turn made the ring to wipe out humans and then when the flood came around the Halo's purpose changed

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Posted by: Alpha777
Well if there are more Halo's then that must mean that there are other lifeforms near them, but the flood cant fly space ships so the only way to get to the other life forms would be for them to come to the flood.....so then maybe there will be other races that come into play in the 2nd Halo, and could the Forerunners be an ancient Covanant race that didnt know about the flood and in turn made the ring to wipe out humans and then when the flood came around the Halo's purpose changed


Just a minor correction, in the level where you are in the cruiser being overrun by the flood, the flood are actually repairing the ship. Cortana says the covenant were terrified that the flood would use their ship to escape Halo. They had run ins with the flood before, so they knew their capabilities. And why do you think the captain was plugged into the control room?
He knew how to fly a starship.

  • 07.05.2004 1:43 PM PDT
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Yes you are correct, I forgot all about the Captin being plugged in, but either way I think we will be seeing some new human/alien races in the new Halo

  • 07.05.2004 1:47 PM PDT
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well wait, i dont think the captin was actually "plugged" in was he?

  • 07.05.2004 1:52 PM PDT
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This is a great thread is awsome I think u guys are on to something. I've been reading it for 2 days now and I agree w/ redleader, cool_cow, duelweldingfreak, jard and shifty on this one.

-GK04

  • 07.05.2004 1:58 PM PDT
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well this is my opinion, dont get angry its just an opinion.


you guys are reading too much into this, and frankly, if there is a connection, what good is it for us to discuss it? jsut wait, play the game and swear a life debt to bungie.

simple.

also, if it does turn out something about pyramids, id be slightly dissapointed. i mean, all of a sudden the answer is in a building on earth that we dont care about ever since we heard of it at school. next you will be telling me the great wall of china is a forerunnner -blam!-.

  • 07.05.2004 2:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Alpha777
well wait, i dont think the captin was actually "plugged" in was he?

Well, the tendrils of the monstrosity were connected too the ships control center.
Also, just as added info, the monitor said "The flood are already hard at work repairing your vessel, the floods parasitic nature undermines its intelligence" or something very close to that.

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one thing Id like to add, the flood couldn't use the human and alien weapons if they werent intellegent

[Edited on 7/5/2004 2:21:45 PM]

  • 07.05.2004 2:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: new1nab113
well this is my opinion, dont get angry its just an opinion.


you guys are reading too much into this, and frankly, if there is a connection, what good is it for us to discuss it? jsut wait, play the game and swear a life debt to bungie.

simple.

also, if it does turn out something about pyramids, id be slightly dissapointed. i mean, all of a sudden the answer is in a building on earth that we dont care about ever since we heard of it at school. next you will be telling me the great wall of china is a forerunnner -blam!-.


Ok, and I'm not meaning to flame you either. But, what else are we supposed to do for the next 1....2....3.....4 months? It's just to take our mind off the mental insanity that the wait has caused us. Again, not meaning to flame you. Just explaining.

P.S. By Friday Eatsern Time in the U.S.A. there will be precisely 4 months until Halo 2 comes out. Me personally, I'm gonna go jump out of a 12 story building. What you guys do, is yours to choose.

[Edited on 7/5/2004 2:25:04 PM]

  • 07.05.2004 2:21 PM PDT
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This is basicly my thorey, it's mostly the same as redleader's. The forerunners crerated life in the universe, humans and covies alike. The covies advanced faster and discovered the existance of their creators. Because of this the forerunners decided to come to earth. This happened during Egyptian times. Hence the Egyptian gods of sun and moon. with the help of the forerunners the Egyptians built the pyiminds so percise and alined with stars/halos, so one day the humans could be lead to "the immortle place' or the forerunner home world. but the covies want that for themselves, so they invade earth, not glass it like Reach, to find forerunner artifacts and the direction of the forerunner homeworld. but then good ol' MC comes in and blows the covie's plan to hell. Like i said this is my theory on the storyline of Halo 2. This is based on alot of things said by shifty, readleader, cool_cow, and duelweildingfreak. -GK04

  • 07.05.2004 2:24 PM PDT
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in those 4 months you could do tonnes of things. watch TV, make more of your social life, patch up arguments with relatives or friends, make new friends, eat, play other vidoe games, learn a new talent, i would find all of these things more productive and then some.

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Posted by: new1nab113
in those 4 months you could do tonnes of things. watch TV, make more of your social life, patch up arguments with relatives or friends, make new friends, eat, play other vidoe games, learn a new talent, i would find all of these things more productive and then some.



lol your right, but shut the hell up, I do other during the day it 's 5:30 here so I've done a days worth of stuff, and what r we going to do for 4 months?

  • 07.05.2004 2:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: new1nab113
in those 4 months you could do tonnes of things. watch TV, make more of your social life, patch up arguments with relatives or friends, make new friends, eat, play other vidoe games, learn a new talent, i would find all of these things more productive and then some.


Thoerizing about Halo 2's story may not get anyone anything, but its not a waste of time. People are are expressing themselves and using their creativitey. So dont knock the people who like be creative and actually think, cause lord knows we could use more creative people in the world that arent afraid to express themselves

  • 07.05.2004 2:40 PM PDT
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Ummm.... yea, not saying all, but most people who play Halo are losers, geeks and bums (Including me!). So, why would we wanna do that when we could waste more of our lives talking about Halo? Secondly, all those things you listed, this is how I would interpret them. Watch TV about the upcoming video game Halo 2. Make more of my social life with my clan so we could practice but whoopin in Halo 2. Patch up arguments with friends or realtives, my friends hmm..... John, I'm so sorry I didn't stick that plasma for you earlier today. Relatives? Listen mom....... I need a new Halo disc, mine got scratched up. Play other video games like Halo for Xbox instead of Halo for PC. So you see? I'm a Halo FREEEEAAAK!!!

  • 07.05.2004 2:42 PM PDT
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well wait, i dont think the captin was actually "plugged" in was he?

Well, the tendrils of the monstrosity were connected too the ships control center.
Also, just as added info, the monitor said "The flood are already hard at work repairing your vessel, the floods parasitic nature undermines its intelligence" or something very close to that.


the litle metal blighter says "their parasitic nature belies their intelligence". thanks to 54 for remindin me of "How great it is to have a record of all our lost time", exactly what he said has been buggin me for ages but i couldn't be bothered goin an playin yet to find out.

perhaps we should start a new thread about the captain was he or wasn't he plugged in. why plug him in to a cov ship instead of the autumn if they were gonna use that as well. crafty supersmart parasites they got me confused

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i think that long ago the forerunners did activate the halos to try and destroy the flood, and they sacrificed themselves, but there was one malfunctioning halo or something and some flood, life on earth, and the covies survived. Well something along those lines.

  • 07.05.2004 2:55 PM PDT