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I highly doubt that DL'ing the maps will cost more than the CD.

  • 03.25.2005 11:51 AM PDT
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Wow alot of whining about having to pay. What a surprise! If you don't want to pay just wait for it. Last time I checked my $50 copy of Halo2 cost me an average of 1/1000 of a cent per hour of usage. If you can't afford to help support Bungie world dominance you should be getting a job and playing less Halo anyway. Frankie make them release the fixes now though so I can enjoy playing the old maps online before the new ones come out.

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For all you people wanting to know the prices, check out the link that was given in the article, duh. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/news/2005/0325-halo2mappack.htm. For those of you that are to stupid to follow the links, here you go. The retail version will be $19.99 and for xbox live users:

"Two maps, Containment and Warlock, will be presented by Mountain Dew at no cost to Xbox Live subscribers. Two additional maps, Sanctuary and Turf, will be available for purchase via Xbox Live for $5.99 (U.S.). To complete the Map Pack collection, subscribers can download the five remaining maps on June 28 for $11.99 (U.S.)."

I agree that product testing is quite important when releasing a product (I am a programmer as well) but sometimes keeping your customers satisfied are more important. At my company we have different levels of severity for the defects in the code. When something is found, the developers determine how serious the problem is and how important it is to release an update. Now we know that Halo 2 has many developers and each developer works on a particular product and that probably only a select few of the 65 person team worked on/work on networking code. However, you would think with the severity of standby that it would be important and a high, high priority to solve this problem in a more timely fasion instead of making new maps.

I am still ready for the new maps, don't get me wrong and I am sure I will pay the premium fees for them. Considering late April though, that update is a long time away and unfortunately the best game ever built will loose some of its fan base because of the cheaters. Hopefully this does not affect the support of Bungie and Microsoft in the Next Console war considering the Halo series is what really keeps the xbox afloat.

By the way Frankie, you do a good job of reporting what you are able to tell us. It really is hard when you know the inside information and cannot say due to legal reasons and sometimes it is hard to figure out what is open to the public and what is not.

As far as Hang'em High goes, man I really wish that would come back. I can't really bust out halo 1 anymore and play it with my friends because they are 700 miles away and cat 5 is only supposed to go 500 feet. From the rumors I have heard, halo 2 had a working version of hang'em high so why don't you let the users decide if it is as fun as we remember or not? Bungie has already spent the development money to make it, maybe a slight amount more is needed to perfect it but think of the revenue you could produce off it. Even if you sale it for 1 buck for that map, I would think at least 100,000 people would download it. This would probably be close + - a few thousdand dollars of the money it takes a single developer to finish this product and the money for logistcal support.

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Posted by: Nogert
I think paying for these maps is stupid no other game i've ever played on Xbox Live i've had to pay for and why should we pay what has the game done for us, probly the mosted glitched and fustrating game ever created were people can standy by and glitch and there isn''t really much you ca do about it because now i have stopped using the cheat forum because nothing happens.

Also how are we meant to know the maps are good we should atleast get screenshots or something otherwise were going to be taking a chance buying them.

I'm annoyed at this because you keep us waiting for so long and then make us pay for it.



You should be patient retard. There is still a whole month. You don't think there will be commercials or screenshots somewhere. And You won't have to pay for the maps. Read the f ucking article idiot. You will only have to pay if you get them before the end of summer, after that they are free. I think this is a smart idea and I hate bungie. Keep your pants on and stop -blam!-ing. -blam!-!

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We only pay if we want to, the maps are FREE, unless we want them early WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM! April is not very far off, and soon we have the patch (one or two weeks I would imagine) and then 2 maps FREE, and integreated into existing playlists, and 2 maps for early purchase that will be FREE at a later date.

OR we could buy all maps early on disk with some extras such as the Halo 2 side story cartoon and documentary plus extras and stuff.

Initially, I was mad, thinking we would all have to pay for the stuff, and not understanding. But now I do understand. HOWEVER, I still have a couple little compaints...

1. I want Bungie to admit that they have spent most of this development time Playing halo 2 and not actually working. (Cuase if I worked there, thats what I would do! :P )

2. Not that I am pro advertisments, but since MOUNTAIN DEW has helped to make this stuff free, there should be some salute to them someware in the games. It would be nice.

3. This is a big one and does need a serious awnser...What happened to all the money this game made? At first I was thinking that since this game outsold everything on earth, we would never have to pay for anything halo 2 related. (in a way we still do not have to pay since the maps will all be FREE) So, what is being done with the money made by Halo 2? I would really like to know, and I am not trying to be confrontaional or anything. Is the money being used to make the new x box/halo 3/MORE halo 2 stuff/etc???

And finally, I have this to say...

DO THE DEW

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what are you guys gonna do wait to get it for free or just buy them

PS: how much will it cost in £ for us british chaps (we dont actually talk like that i just thought i would put "chaps" in for a laugh)

  • 03.25.2005 11:53 AM PDT
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Why are people complaining about paying for the new maps...who gives a crap. your finally getting your new maps,they look amazing, there big, and theres nine of them, so go pick up your mommy's credit card and buy them, its only 20 bux for nine whole maps.. thats not even expensive people!! also if you buy the disc in a store you get even more features. All i know is that i definitly have enough $ for the maps and i think a majority of gamers do as well. just one more month to go. i cant wait to see how Bungie adresses the standbye problem i hope it greatly improves gameplay.

  • 03.25.2005 11:56 AM PDT
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Dude the money made from H2 is being used for beer and strippers of course. Geez I thought everyone knew that.

  • 03.25.2005 11:57 AM PDT
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Ok, they finally give us what all you people (and me 2, admittedly) have been asking for. Wow, what a response, you people are sad. Aww, they want to charge us for something they have been working hard on, AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. and, they have been making us wait, *sniff* they are going to make us wat longer *sniff* All I have to say to you whiners and the people that are to busy accusing others of cheating to actually play the game is this, "SHUT UP AND PLAY! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GO OUTSIDE, YOU PROBOBLY COULD USE THE EXCERCIZE!"
I would like to say to bungie, thank you. You guys are awsome." My only question is what is the date for the update disk's release, i'm just curios if it is in may, I know what I'm getting for my birthday.

  • 03.25.2005 11:59 AM PDT
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Go on then kyleb, prove it aint comin gout on PC, i'd like you to tell me! Do you seriously think they aint gonna bring Halo 2 on PC when they did it with the first one?

  • 03.25.2005 12:01 PM PDT
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When in april will the 2 free maps come out? i hope the 20th

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well they shold be 100% free because they half assed the whole damn game

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When will there be a patch against cheating and that kind of stuff?! And do we also have to pay for that patch too?

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I think its super stupid that you have to pay for the new map downloads!!!!

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What's to stop a group of people from buying one disk and downloading all the maps on several xboxs? If that's possible, i see no problem in going in on a disc w/a couple of my buddies and all of us getting the maps...
Yes. I, too, was wondering about this. I assume that the new maps will have their own little key codes and no one will be able to play the maps that are from the same disk. But what about the regular updates? Can two people use the same disk to say, fix the problems they are having with their TVs? It would suck to have two people use the disk to fix the glitches, only to find that now they cannot play with each other.

  • 03.25.2005 12:03 PM PDT
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Will the scorpion be in matchmaking, If it is used the machine gun should be toned down

  • 03.25.2005 12:03 PM PDT
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Don't give me that Wegg, I watch TV, I know you have racoons. I'VE SEEN THEM, OK? Can't believe you'd keep them from me. What is this, a conspiracy? Keep the racoons from the Brits? Look, the independence thing was years ago, OK? GET OVER IT. I want to see a bloody racoon, and you're gonna make it happen.

First off for all of my UK comrades, $20 = approx 14.08 pounds

Second off I will adress the reason why Bungie is charging us.

Bungie is a COMPANY not a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION:

a COMPANY makes a product, uses the money from that product to make new products and charges for that product so they can make a PROFIT.

a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION makes something and charges money for it so that they can use it to make other things for free.

in order for bungie to make a PROFIT they must charge a, very fair, amount of money for DLC.

Mountain Dew is being very generous (or they are just betting on all of the college students getting addicted to their drink so that they can play all night) by lending Bungie the money to put these maps out for free.

Thank you Bungie you guys pwn, thank you mMountain Dew, i have had many an all-nighter thanks to your support.

And everyone, I am 14, but my parents dont buy me anything, if i am gonna charge thisDLC to my mom's credit card i am gonna have to pay her back, i dont know why all the little kids who are getting this stuff for free are complaining when they dont have to do anything except press the A button for these awesome maps

  • 03.25.2005 12:04 PM PDT
Subject: Weekly What's Update: SPECIAL EDITION!
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The patch is free just like the maps, and will be released shortly before the first two maps in april. I would guess probobly another 2-3 weeks for the patch. It could also be a possibility (and purhapes Frankie could clarify) that the patch could be released in parts and not all at once (that is a guess on my part)

  • 03.25.2005 12:06 PM PDT
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Good,another month.This gives me enough time to get my XBox repaired,along with getting a new GamerTag.I can't wait for this to come out.It's going to be so awesome.

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These maps look better than any I have ever seen. So if you can't get a hold of $20 then don't eat for a day then you will have enough. Nice work Bungie

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Im confused. How are you supposed to get the two maps that arent being released over live? Will they be downloadable for a cost? or will we have to go out and buy them? Where will we buy them and what will be the cost?

  • 03.25.2005 12:07 PM PDT
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if you dont buy the new maps will you not be able to play a matchmaking game with those maps??????

  • 03.25.2005 12:08 PM PDT
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What I don't understand is the people who post questions asking about things that were answered in the update! The only question that wasn't was how much maps would be to download, and Bungie probably doesn't know that because that's Xbox Live's deal.

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Hey guys, i dont know if i posted this already, but im confused. How are we supposed tog et the two other maps that arent goin to be free? Will they be in stores, or will they be paid over x-box live?

  • 03.25.2005 12:09 PM PDT