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Pedestrians running franticly around the streets of New Mombasa, despretly trying to get away from the progressing Covie army. It seems likel. If the civilian Hog makes it into the game, why not civilians? It would add to the realism. What do you think?

  • 07.04.2004 4:41 PM PDT
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Well I think that In the levels you will be playing like in the cities, Dont you think that by then that people have fled for their lives.

[Edited on 7/4/2004 4:43:10 PM]

  • 07.04.2004 4:42 PM PDT
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no

  • 07.04.2004 4:49 PM PDT
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With all the Covenant attaking and lazer beams flying everywhere?

  • 07.04.2004 4:53 PM PDT
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You've never seen civilians in war have you? They are frantic, those that are smart escape, but judging by the way humanity is going now.....most of those people are going to be dumbasses and will die.

  • 07.04.2004 5:10 PM PDT
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Its in the middle of a city, and the covie attack is world wide, where the -blam!- do you think thy are going to run?

In reply to bezerkers 1st post.

[Edited on 7/4/2004 5:27:17 PM]

  • 07.04.2004 5:26 PM PDT
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civilians only mean 1 thing to me...Kill them...Kill then all!

  • 07.04.2004 6:12 PM PDT
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i beleive the civilian hog was just a joke, look in the E3 2003 demo to see that people have NORMAL cars... damn do i love typing normal in all capslock!

  • 07.04.2004 6:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elarith
i beleive the civilian hog was just a joke, look in the E3 2003 demo to see that people have NORMAL cars... damn do i love typing normal in all capslock!


I thought it was a joke at first also, but those look like legit renders and Joyride even made a civilian hog toy.

And that old e3 demo probably changed by now, I also doubt that every car on the road would be a civi hog.

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  • 07.04.2004 7:39 PM PDT

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You forget that the area of New Mombasa is a protectorate and that it is designed for defending against covenant trrops. Hence all the stationary guns and medical centres.

  • 07.04.2004 7:41 PM PDT
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Its still a city with civilians.

  • 07.04.2004 7:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hikaru 119
You've never seen civilians in war have you? They are frantic, those that are smart escape, but judging by the way humanity is going now.....most of those people are going to be dumbasses and will die.


Assuming that the UNSC has policies and codes anything like our military today, on of the top priorities is maintaining a low level of civilian casualties, and trying to keep civillians under control. Of course the Covenant would be making that very difficult but supplying civilians with safe zones and checkpoints is crucial in military operations. I am sure the UNSC would be trying to ensure the safety of civillians because I disgree with you, many of them aren't stupid, but have never been under combat circumstances. Let me ask you, if we were to suddenly come under attck by any force, Covenant, terrorists, oppostition military, whatever, you cant expect me to believe you would know what to do or escape immidiately. Your initial reaction is to worry and panic.

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  • 07.04.2004 7:42 PM PDT
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I just think it would be cool to see.

And I wonder if the cars we saw in the demo are drivable......

  • 07.04.2004 7:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hikaru 119
You've never seen civilians in war have you? They are frantic, those that are smart escape, but judging by the way humanity is going now.....most of those people are going to be dumbasses and will die.


Assuming that the UNSC has policies and codes anything like our military today, on of the top priorities is maintaining a low level of civilian casualties, and trying to keep civillians under control. Of course the Covenant would be making that very difficult but supplying civilians with safe zones and checkpoints is crucial in military operations. I am sure the UNSC would be trying to ensure the safety of civillians because I disgree with you, many of them aren't stupid, but have never been under combat circumstances. Let me ask you, if we were to suddenly come under attck by any force, Covenant, terrorists, oppostition military, whatever, you cant expect me to believe you would know what to do or escape immidiately. Your initial reaction is to worry and panic.


Being an American and an avid gun collector, my first instinct is to grab a gun. Hell when 9/11 happened the first thing I did was make sure my firearms worked and that my bullet proof vest was still in one piece. That was my initial reaction and when we were attacked. I'm saying though the average civi, and with the way intelligence is dropping in the average citizen these days, that they'll freak and not know what to do.

  • 07.04.2004 7:58 PM PDT
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If the attack on the city is a surprise one, which is likely, then the civis would have nothing to do but run around, or even if they do try to escape you could be there to witness it.

  • 07.04.2004 8:15 PM PDT

SB-117

Yes but most likely the civi's would know the planet is under attack and evacuate to the safest place nearby. I'm sure the covenant didnt invade New Mombasa first :S

  • 07.04.2004 8:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: ash55
You forget that the area of New Mombasa is a protectorate and that it is designed for defending against covenant trrops. Hence all the stationary guns and medical centres.


Hey...thats right ash I never noticed that or thought about what a protectorate is but now it makes so much sence

  • 07.04.2004 8:39 PM PDT
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Anything is possible.

  • 07.04.2004 8:44 PM PDT
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I would'nt mind a civillian hog, just imagining a family where the dad is threatening to stop the hog if they don't shut up and behind them theres a group of grunts trying to figure out how to turn on one of the hog.

  • 07.04.2004 8:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hikaru 119
Posted by: Boot117
Posted by: Hikaru 119
You've never seen civilians in war have you? They are frantic, those that are smart escape, but judging by the way humanity is going now.....most of those people are going to be dumbasses and will die.


Assuming that the UNSC has policies and codes anything like our military today, on of the top priorities is maintaining a low level of civilian casualties, and trying to keep civillians under control. Of course the Covenant would be making that very difficult but supplying civilians with safe zones and checkpoints is crucial in military operations. I am sure the UNSC would be trying to ensure the safety of civillians because I disgree with you, many of them aren't stupid, but have never been under combat circumstances. Let me ask you, if we were to suddenly come under attck by any force, Covenant, terrorists, oppostition military, whatever, you cant expect me to believe you would know what to do or escape immidiately. Your initial reaction is to worry and panic.


Being an American and an avid gun collector, my first instinct is to grab a gun. Hell when 9/11 happened the first thing I did was make sure my firearms worked and that my bullet proof vest was still in one piece. That was my initial reaction and when we were attacked. I'm saying though the average civi, and with the way intelligence is dropping in the average citizen these days, that they'll freak and not know what to do.


This has nothing to do with intellect. A civillian with an IQ of 200 would panic just as a civillian with 100, it is totally irrelavent. On average, people don't know how to use firearms, with the exception of examples you and me. They dont own rifles, pistols, light or heavy machine guns, and they definately dont own bullet proof vests. People aren't stupid, they are just so used to being safe that when even the smallest bit of unexpected danger occurs they panic.

  • 07.04.2004 8:57 PM PDT