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Ok here we go:

Puma (Warthog but with rockets, shown in both E3 demos)
Warthog (Hasn't actually been seen in action with the chain gun yet but i doubt it'll be left out)
Covbus
Wraith
Phantom
Ghost
Banshee
Pelican & Longsword (both of these will not be pilotable but have been seen in the E3 demos)
ATV (the little buggy has been talked about in a MP map)

And you never know, the Shadow may make it back in... It was seen in the pre-xbox screens.

I think that's about it.

  • 07.05.2004 4:43 AM PDT
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thanks will you be able to use the drop pods the elites drop out of in the e3 trailer

  • 07.05.2004 4:48 AM PDT
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dont forget the human answer to the banshee (only a rumor i think) and thats enough for the vehicles, lets talk about the weapons.

Covenant:

Covie Sword
Carbine
Fuel Rod Gun
Brute Weapon
Plasma Rifle
Plasma Pistol
Needler.

Human:

Sub Machine Gun
Battle Rifle
Pistol
Assault Rifle
Rocket Launcher
Sniper Rifle
Shotgun
FlameThrower (I hope not, It Stank)

Thats all i remember right now.

  • 07.05.2004 4:51 AM PDT
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I thought they replaced the Pistol with the Battle Rifle and the Assault Rifle with the SMG?

Im pretty sure we'll have a pistol but as for the Assault Rifle I highly doubt it.

1. It sucked.
2. In the cutscenes, MC held the AR 100% of the time. In the Halo 2 cutscenes we have seen, he now holds the SMG 100% of the time, if your using it at the end or not.

  • 07.05.2004 5:02 AM PDT
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yea they replced the pistol
will there sstill be night vision mode with sniper rifle

  • 07.05.2004 5:13 AM PDT
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All the old guns, and the new guns are the feul rod cannon,plasma sword, new hand guns,feild battle rifle,rocket launchers on the back of warthogs,and the brute slug. Now for the new vehicles there are five new all terrain warthogs,wraiths,better ghost,fourwheelers,scorpians,covenant bus, new human drop ship,covenant battle cruiser,new covenant shadow,and diffrent types of mini guns. That should straighten your perspective and, I'm a new member! And yes the wraith is driveable.

  • 07.05.2004 7:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: stealthsniper
yea they replced the pistol
will there sstill be night vision mode with sniper rifle


Bungie has said nothing about the M6D or the MA5B being replaced. Hell they've said nothing about anything being replaced. So there is zero concrete evidence that what you speak is Tru7h. So don't assume.

Hell there is a good chance that it'll come back in Halo 2. In an interview at E3 2004 Bungie was asked this.

Question:

" So will the trusty pistol from Halo 1 make a return? " - interviewer

Bungie Answer:

" No comment. " and said with a hint of joy in the voice as well as a smirk on the face.

So don't go around saying anythign is replaed, unless you have evidence from Bungie that it is. And the SMG or BR always being in the screenshots. Well no -blam!-, they are trying to show off what is new, not what is old. Show the new so you can get more sales and then let the old be shown in game.

  • 07.05.2004 7:53 AM PDT
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lol, the amount of times I've seen you say that Hikaru =P!!
I know we shouldnt assume but I dont see a place for the AR in Halo2, not with the SMG being included, if the AR is in then we have two very simillar guns!

  • 07.05.2004 7:58 AM PDT
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Yeah I know I've said it alot, but it must be said.

Okay here is a chart for balance that I see. Each gun has a counterpart and an equal, well most do. I am also going to range them in terms of fire power/ range from highest to lowest. Also as to their purpose.

M19 SSM = Fuel Rod Gun
No UNSC weapon (possible new magnum) = Brute "slug" launcher
S2 AM = Unknown as of this time
M90 = Plasma Sword (yes I know it is more powerful then the shotty, but it is about range)
M6D = Plasma Pistol, well almost
Battle Rifle = Covenant Carbine
MA5B = Plasma Rifle
SMG = Needler

Every weapon for the most part has some sort of balance. And the SMG is much different from the MA5B. One, it is weaker, two to make up for that it can be dual wielded, but even then its power is just barely over an MA5B when both SMGs are firing at once. I would also go into storyline what not and how Bungie is very good at keeping nearly everything stable storyline wise (weapons included), but I don't have the time to explain something that no one will listen to anyways.....

Man I need to copy my stuff somewhere typing all this out is getting really annoying.

[Edited on 7/5/2004 8:06:34 AM]

  • 07.05.2004 8:05 AM PDT
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they wont put the AR in because no one would use it, a 2 handed weapon, over the SMG, a 1 handed weapon. And same with the pistol, the BR is better in all accounts.

and: the pelican ISNT drivable, the covbus is most likely nonpilotable due to its uselessness (if u want to transport people use a hog or a scorpion)

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Posted by: PriceChild

Pelican & Longsword (both of these will not be pilotable but have been seen in the E3 demos)


what is a longsword

  • 07.05.2004 8:09 AM PDT
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I would use it, all of my friends would use it, there are other people on this forum as well as many others that would use it. So I don't know what the heck you are talking about there dynasty99 because there are those of us that will be using every weapon in the game.

A longsword is a bomber/ interceptor. The Chief escaped on one at the end of Halo. Real badass fighter...too bad they drop like flies compared to Covenant Seraphs.

Here is a picture

or just go to the bomber

[Edited on 7/5/2004 8:12:34 AM]

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Posted by: dynasty99
Posted by: PriceChild

Pelican & Longsword (both of these will not be pilotable but have been seen in the E3 demos)


what is a longsword


The longsword is what MC uses to escape off the Pillar of Autumn on The Maw, its a fighter that can go in and out of atmospheres (it can fight in space as well as the sky) its like the UNSC cruisers fighter escorts!

  • 07.05.2004 8:14 AM PDT
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Pelican, All four new wart-hogs, the cove shadow, the cove stransport, banshee, scorpion and i think they added a smaller tank [not sure], the upgraded ghost and the new cove tank[not sure if its a tank it jsut said the tank and the CENCORED. Thats all i can think of
oh...and aperently the long sword

[Edited on 7/5/2004 8:20:19 AM]

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a SkyHalk jet fighter
a seraph star fighter
and lotis anti tank mines

  • 07.05.2004 10:36 AM PDT
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ghost,banshee, creep, phantom, shadow, wraith, scorpion, warthog(rocket and classic), pelican, long sword, and ATV

  • 07.05.2004 10:42 AM PDT
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and atv, which, a while ago, you were supposedly able to fire one handed weapons while driving (don't know if that's still in).

  • 07.05.2004 10:44 AM PDT
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The only thing people have forgot is the:

Covie Artillery shown in the 2003 demo. (unkown if able to drive)

Super MAC (hinted at by Jaime that you can aim and shoot them)

  • 07.05.2004 11:05 AM PDT
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pistol is gone. the BR has 12 shots, a scope, and is two handed with the same reticle. its the replacement for the pistol since its so damn similar. its not an assumption, its a fact. the SMG is like the AR, but with higher rate of fire and same number of rounds. oh, and you can have 2. so the AR is gone, too. and the FRG and Slugthrower both lob explosive shots, so iexpect that the FRG is gone.

plasma pistol--new human pistol
plasma rifle--SMG
Carbine--BR
slugthrower--?
plasma sword--?[another melee weapon that bungie said exists]
?--shotgun
needler--?
?--SSM
Covie SniperRifle-- Sniper Rifle
and frankie said two new weapons were introduced that were completely different.

wraith--scorpion
ghost--ATV
Shadow--Warthog[mimigun seen, guass, rocket, and lots more...]
banshee--?
and there is the creep bus

bungie said the DS are not pilotable.

edit-crap, the big ass plasma cannon in the E303 demo. bungie told some guys there that you get to use one of them in a level. so yeah, add HUGEMASSIVEPLASMACANNON to list of vehicles

[Edited on 7/5/2004 11:57:20 AM]

  • 07.05.2004 11:54 AM PDT
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I have some time on my hands, so here r all the weapons i know of and vehicles
Covenant Carbine
Plasma pistol
Plasma Rifle (i assume they're keeping it)
Battle Rifle
SMG
Shotgun
Frag grenade
Plasma Grenade
Other grenade (duno it's name)
Sniper Rifle
Covenant energy sword
Needler

I think that's all the weapons

Vehicles:
Ghost
Warthog
Pelican
ATV
Phantom
Banshee
Shadow

If i missed any, it's because i am really tired right now. Just post any i missed. Oh, and i didn't put diff. names for the same vehicle with different weapons.

[Edited on 7/5/2004 12:07:17 PM]

  • 07.05.2004 12:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: DT Undertaker
there's the shadow, a covie version of the warthog, the phantom, new dropship, and probably more we don't know yet.

the phantoms look kinda like decked out pelicans

  • 07.05.2004 12:08 PM PDT
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Here you go, a full summary
Warthog - ya know, the hog
Scorpian- 1 dot, 2 dots, 3 dots, 4 dots, blam!
Wraith - covenant tank that fires plasma mortars
Ghost- whoooo, pew pew pew pew! dead covenant/marine/flood/teammate
Banshee- the fliey thingy that goes phewwwwwwwww when it turns
Shadow- Covenant warthog style thing with a shade on the back, 'cept it hovers
Phatom- Big new covenant dropship that has a large plasma cannon, and a tendency to drop brutes
Covenant "bus"- not sure about this one, its the thing from E3 '03 demo vid that was basically a bus with a shade on, most of them were destoryed by the rocket 'hog
ATV- The quadbike, human, no weapons, but the rumours are that you can use one, one handed weapon (the ones that can be dual wielded i.e. pistol, smg, needler, plasma pistol) and sacrifice some control
The new 'hogs - including a rocket hog, gauss hog, transport hog, snow hog and forest hog.

Thats all the vehicles (i think), and i cant be bothered to do the weapons.

  • 07.05.2004 12:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: kazoo
pistol is gone. the BR has 12 shots, a scope, and is two handed with the same reticle. its the replacement for the pistol since its so damn similar. its not an assumption, its a fact. the SMG is like the AR, but with higher rate of fire and same number of rounds. oh, and you can have 2. so the AR is gone, too. and the FRG and Slugthrower both lob explosive shots, so iexpect that the FRG is gone.

plasma pistol--new human pistol
plasma rifle--SMG
Carbine--BR
slugthrower--?
plasma sword--?[another melee weapon that bungie said exists]
?--shotgun
needler--?
?--SSM
Covie SniperRifle-- Sniper Rifle
and frankie said two new weapons were introduced that were completely different.

wraith--scorpion
ghost--ATV
Shadow--Warthog[mimigun seen, guass, rocket, and lots more...]
banshee--?
and there is the creep bus

bungie said the DS are not pilotable.

edit-crap, the big ass plasma cannon in the E303 demo. bungie told some guys there that you get to use one of them in a level. so yeah, add HUGEMASSIVEPLASMACANNON to list of vehicles


IT has 36 shots, not 12 dumbass. Get your info correct. Also find me a link or page inside a magazine where Bunige, not the idiots at some fan site or magazine editor, says that any weapons are being replaced. Once you do that, which you will find no official source(which I can guarantee), then I might believe you. And your chart is all wrong, just so you know.

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IT has 36 shots, not 12 dumbass. Get your info correct. Also find me a link or page inside a magazine where Bunige, not the idiots at some fan site or magazine editor, says that any weapons are being replaced. Once you do that, which you will find no official source(which I can guarantee), then I might believe you. And your chart is all wrong, just so you know.

Amen Hikaru! Can you imagine if the BR had 12 shots, you'd only get to fire four of the 3 shot bursts and you'd be out! Also there has been no confirmation of the Covenant sniper rifle existing

  • 07.05.2004 12:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Endnote


Also there has been no confirmation of the Covenant sniper rifle existing


Yeah there has, it's on this site. It shows it perfectly.

[Edited on 7/5/2004 1:21:09 PM]

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