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Subject: Halo 3 & NXE
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i do not like the so called NXE i think it is uber-blam!-YYYYYYYYYYYYY


Posted by: SketchFactor
The New Xbox Experience (NXE) launches today and with it comes a new feature that allows games to be installed to your hard drive. Unfortunately Halo 3 will load slower in this scenario and could negatively impact your online experience. Read on for details.


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  • 11.19.2008 5:25 PM PDT

Very nice.

Keep up the good work SketchFactor.

  • 11.19.2008 5:42 PM PDT

Jason

Nice.

  • 11.19.2008 5:46 PM PDT

I like the new update.

  • 11.19.2008 5:56 PM PDT
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I will use it anyway because I don't like the sound of a jet air plane in my room while I am playing a game.

  • 11.19.2008 6:56 PM PDT

I don't see why this should be a problem. The DLC maps already are on the HDD, so why don't they load into cache? It is just poor programming on Bungie's part not integrating this into at least TU2 for the original maps. I installed the game to my HDD on Friday, and Standoff loaded at its normal time when I used the disc before. Maybe Bungie should actually pay attention to Microsoft when they add new features, considering that Microsoft published Halo 3 as a first party title. Bungie should have been one of the first to integrate this!

  • 11.19.2008 7:06 PM PDT
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Thanks for the advice!!!... I test the game (on camping mode) after complete the installacion on my HD, and in some parts of the game it makes a longer loading but this dont happen all the time. Anyway i just delete it from my X360... :P!!
See ya!

  • 11.19.2008 7:28 PM PDT

UZM4L

I installed it to my hard drive and the load times in the menu are quicker, although the maps might take a little longer to load in matchmaking, IDC it's my choice to play off of the HDD And that is what i'm doing, if the other players have to wait a few extra seconds so I don't have to hear my 360 disc drive (aka Air conditioner unit on High) too bad, who's gonna stop me?

  • 11.19.2008 9:02 PM PDT
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My Xbox update won't even work. When it gets to the end it fail, it told me to check my connection and it was fine. I don't know what to do because I can't connect to xbox live without it.

Q: Can you also install original xbox games onto the HDD?

  • 11.19.2008 10:06 PM PDT
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You know I really don't care what you people think & i don't really care if everybody else gets mad at me for uploading Halo 3 to my HDD. You see, my Xbox is MY XBOX & if I can make it quiter & last longer then I will, regardless of the load time to play Halo 3. (which is over 1 year into its 4 years shelf life) Don't get me wrong I also love to play Halo 3 & its my game of choice. Which is why I will upload it to my HDD & get a quiter ride with more mileage in the long run for my Xbox. If you don't like it then...well I really don't care what you think!!!

  • 11.20.2008 5:03 AM PDT
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I don't see why this should be a problem. The DLC maps already are on the HDD, so why don't they load into cache? It is just poor programming on Bungie's part not integrating this into at least TU2 for the original maps. I installed the game to my HDD on Friday, and Standoff loaded at its normal time when I used the disc before. Maybe Bungie should actually pay attention to Microsoft when they add new features, considering that Microsoft published Halo 3 as a first party title. Bungie should have been one of the first to integrate this!


Amen to that Brother!!!

  • 11.20.2008 5:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: Uzzi 360
I installed it to my hard drive and the load times in the menu are quicker, although the maps might take a little longer to load in matchmaking, IDC it's my choice to play off of the HDD And that is what i'm doing, if the other players have to wait a few extra seconds so I don't have to hear my 360 disc drive (aka Air conditioner unit on High) too bad, who's gonna stop me?


Exactly what I'm saying, screw them if they don't like it.

  • 11.20.2008 5:06 AM PDT
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Halo 3 works on 360 that don't have HDD so it can work without the cache.
So knowing that I don't think it will be hard and take lot of dev time to add, at first, a small option to enable/disable the HDD cache so everyone could enjoy the game in the best conditions!

  • 11.20.2008 6:49 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 3 & NXE

Well my halo disc was scratched and some of the maps didn't work on the disc so i borrowed a friends disc and put it on my hdd so i can use my scratched disc to play all the content. The loading times don't seem that much longer i haven't really noticed it.

  • 11.20.2008 7:52 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 3 & NXE

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Here's what I'm wondering though.

If Bungie were to make a patch, I don't think it would be too difficult. I'm almost certain that the NXE provides a boolean value to tell whether the game is on a disk, or the hard drive.

So I'm thinking just a if/else statement to decide whether or not to cache the maps.

I don't really know how much code that would entail (because I don't work for Bungie), but I'm just saying it seems simple in theory.

  • 11.20.2008 9:36 AM PDT
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My view:

Call me selfish but I've got Halo 3 on my hard drive and it's not coming off. My 360's a Halo edition I bought second hand from a local shop minus hard drive, so I bought a 120GB HDD. The original owner must have been a complete muppet from the condition of the component cable and I want the 'Haylite' to stay alive as long as possible. A session online last night didn't seem to present longer loading times and while the console's not down to PS3 levels of sound, it's definitely a big improvement. Even so, I'm glad I came to check this out because the in-game message comes across as being a bit tongue in cheek because of the bit about friends laughing at you. Make it serious please Bungie or it's just going to cause more confusion for people who wouldn't normally come here (this is my first post so yes, stupids like me).

Unless Bungie present a fix this problem's here to stay because there's probably a high percentage of (casual) players that have never visited this site before and just as many who want a quieter Xbox. At the same time though, don't pin the blame on Bungie for the issue. it's their forward-thinking approach that was caught out by a system software feature that probably wasn't even being considered during Halo's development. Halo 3 to me has always been a must-have title for 360, a quick match on it made me want one and a game collection without it is incomplete. When all's said and done it's still the same game.

To sum up: If you can fix it Bungie please do, if not then it's not exactly the end of the world is it?

  • 11.20.2008 11:22 AM PDT

That's weird. I installed Halo 3 to my HDD & loading times are actually better. it used to take a few minutes to load the campaign level, "The Storm", but now it only takes 10-15 seconds. lol

  • 11.20.2008 4:04 PM PDT

Why is it so hard to fix? The game doesn't use caching when the HDD isn't attached, is there any reason you can't pretend the hard drive isn't attached for that but leave it as an option for save files and DLC?

  • 11.20.2008 6:57 PM PDT

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Listen up straight y'all biscuit heads, I would like a piece of dried toast and two scrambow'd eggs.

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My mates installed it and he says it runs fine, there's no load time problems like bungie have said


Yeah that is what I have observed. I actually thought the load times were significantly faster, especially on larger maps like Valhalla and Sandtrap. But then again I haven't played in a few weeks so I might have not remembered correctly. I uninstalled anyways because I only have a 20gb hard drive.

  • 11.20.2008 9:03 PM PDT
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Wat a joke this game is. It took me forever to find a game anyway, so now the loading screens are slower?!?

I'm off to play CoD and put Halo to bed.

[Edited on 11.21.2008 2:15 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2008 2:13 AM PDT
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They have this thing called an Xbox Live Arcade edition, it doesn't have a hard drive, and IIRC Halo 3 runs on that... why can't they just make it so Halo 3 thinks it's running on a unit with no HDD when it's running off of the HDD? That way it wouldn't double seek the drive, at least in theory.

EDIT: I see I'm not the only one who thought of this. My bad.

[Edited on 11.21.2008 5:40 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2008 5:38 AM PDT
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I'm having trouble here. How do you install Halo 3 to your hard drive? If anyone can answer that would be very helpful

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  • 11.21.2008 2:12 PM PDT

I'm disappointed to hear this, although it makes sense. A swap file + disc data being read from two separate devices simultaneously (HDD + DVD drive), would be faster than both sets of data being read from the same device (HDD only).

However, I had a thought, which posed a question to which I believe some of you folks on the Bungie community might know the answer.

Does the H3 swap-file space default to whatever the default storage device is? More accurately, will it write to a memory unit? I assume so, because some 360s don't come with a hard drive, only a memory unit. If my assumption is correct, then could one then load H3 from their HDD, choose the memory unit as the default storage device, and thereby the dilemma is resolved? Is my logic flawed? That would be two separate devices, assuming the 360s processor can request data from both simultaneously, as it does between the ODD and the HDD. And read/write speeds from a solid state memory unit has to be faster than from a DVD...

  • 11.21.2008 3:33 PM PDT

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