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Just something I noticed the other day when I got Halo out and played for a bit...

Captain Keyes wears the rank insignia of an army, air force or marine corps Captain.

not the insignia of a Navy Captain. if he's an Officer in the 'Navy' and has Admirals above him, then his insignia is wrong. its that of a Navy Lieutenant.

  • 03.30.2005 7:02 AM PDT
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Remember ?

Halo is SCI-FI
Its a shortcut for .....EVRYTHING IS UNREAL IN THIS GAME....


  • 03.30.2005 8:14 AM PDT
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To notice that then you must be SERIOSLY mad about halo

  • 03.30.2005 10:02 AM PDT
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Then again, thinking about it, the 302 reasons to show your mad about halo are all true about me

  • 03.30.2005 10:03 AM PDT
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I think it was 302 reasons though, not sure

  • 03.30.2005 10:04 AM PDT
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my dad would have noticed

  • 03.30.2005 10:36 AM PDT
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I'm Air Force... thats why.

and for everyone who's beat it countless times, you start looking for that kind of stuff.

  • 03.30.2005 5:39 PM PDT
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In WW2 my grandfather was a gunner on a B-17. He was in the Army Aircorps. They split after the war into two different things, the Army, and the Air Force. Maybe sometime in the future they decided to merge again.

  • 03.31.2005 1:32 AM PDT
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It doesn't matter if the army and airforce merged agian......were talking about the NAVY........also halo is fictional

  • 03.31.2005 5:19 AM PDT
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Ya know... When a game like Halo is made it has "We can do what the hell we want!!!" written all over it. So what do people do... pick faults!!! it always happens with the best games ha ha ha it amuses me

  • 03.31.2005 10:53 AM PDT

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One thing that does make sence is that, Master Cheif is a short version of Master Cheif Petty Officer, I think, which is in the Navy. Sergeant Major in the Marine Corp is the same rank as Master Cheif Petty Officer in the navy. Sgt. Johnson is a Sergeant Major.

  • 03.31.2005 1:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Master CDA
One thing that does make sence is that, Master Cheif is a short version of Master Cheif Petty Officer, I think, which is in the Navy. Sergeant Major in the Marine Corp is the same rank as Master Cheif Petty Officer in the navy. Sgt. Johnson is a Sergeant Major.


So if Johnson is the same as Chief, why does Johnson address him with the official "sir"

Example...Halo1-lvl2-Sgt Johnson...

"*sigh* Its a mess, sir. We're scattered all over this valley. I called for evac but until you showed up, i thought we were done for."

Or am i wrong and soldiers w/the same rank address each other with "sir" ?

  • 03.31.2005 2:53 PM PDT

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well, back then he was just a seargent, not a seargent major... just trying to be helpful...

  • 03.31.2005 4:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: me15ter
Posted by: Master CDA
One thing that does make sence is that, Master Cheif is a short version of Master Cheif Petty Officer, I think, which is in the Navy. Sergeant Major in the Marine Corp is the same rank as Master Cheif Petty Officer in the navy. Sgt. Johnson is a Sergeant Major.


So if Johnson is the same as Chief, why does Johnson address him with the official "sir"

Example...Halo1-lvl2-Sgt Johnson...

"*sigh* Its a mess, sir. We're scattered all over this valley. I called for evac but until you showed up, i thought we were done for."

Or am i wrong and soldiers w/the same rank address each other with "sir" ?



because he knows that the master cheif can kick his ass

  • 03.31.2005 4:45 PM PDT
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Kaptain Keyes smokes strange things.

  • 03.31.2005 4:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spetsnaz11
Posted by: me15ter
Posted by: Master CDA
One thing that does make sence is that, Master Cheif is a short version of Master Cheif Petty Officer, I think, which is in the Navy. Sergeant Major in the Marine Corp is the same rank as Master Cheif Petty Officer in the navy. Sgt. Johnson is a Sergeant Major.


So if Johnson is the same as Chief, why does Johnson address him with the official "sir"

Example...Halo1-lvl2-Sgt Johnson...

"*sigh* Its a mess, sir. We're scattered all over this valley. I called for evac but until you showed up, i thought we were done for."

Or am i wrong and soldiers w/the same rank address each other with "sir" ?



because he knows that the master cheif can kick his ass


lol! The man with the bigger biceps always wins!

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Posted by: me15ter
Posted by: Master CDA
One thing that does make sence is that, Master Cheif is a short version of Master Cheif Petty Officer, I think, which is in the Navy. Sergeant Major in the Marine Corp is the same rank as Master Cheif Petty Officer in the navy. Sgt. Johnson is a Sergeant Major.


So if Johnson is the same as Chief, why does Johnson address him with the official "sir"

Example...Halo1-lvl2-Sgt Johnson...

"*sigh* Its a mess, sir. We're scattered all over this valley. I called for evac but until you showed up, i thought we were done for."

Or am i wrong and soldiers w/the same rank address each other with "sir" ?


Because that wasn't Johnson, just the same character model, only time you see the real Johnson is in the beginning cutscene, and on 343 Guilty Spark. Also, Navy is the only military that has Chiefs, I should know, my dad was a Chief.

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Air Force Chief Master Sergeant is addressed as 'Chief'

  • 04.01.2005 6:45 AM PDT

Posted by: james2785
Captain Keyes wears the rank insignia of an army, air force or marine corps Captain.

not the insignia of a Navy Captain. if he's an Officer in the 'Navy' and has Admirals above him, then his insignia is wrong. its that of a Navy Lieutenant.


Nice catch james2785. Even my roommate (who is in the Navy) didn't notice it in all the hundreds of times we've played the game.

  • 04.01.2005 7:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Gozed

Posted by: me15ter
Posted by: Master CDA
One thing that does make sence is that, Master Cheif is a short version of Master Cheif Petty Officer, I think, which is in the Navy. Sergeant Major in the Marine Corp is the same rank as Master Cheif Petty Officer in the navy. Sgt. Johnson is a Sergeant Major.


So if Johnson is the same as Chief, why does Johnson address him with the official "sir"

Example...Halo1-lvl2-Sgt Johnson...

"*sigh* Its a mess, sir. We're scattered all over this valley. I called for evac but until you showed up, i thought we were done for."

Or am i wrong and soldiers w/the same rank address each other with "sir" ?


Because that wasn't Johnson, just the same character model, only time you see the real Johnson is in the beginning cutscene, and on 343 Guilty Spark. Also, Navy is the only military that has Chiefs, I should know, my dad was a Chief.


Cant help but say this, but duh.

Im talking according to the game.

  • 04.01.2005 7:30 PM PDT
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also master chief is a marine but he has a navy rank

  • 04.02.2005 10:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: MR Titan
also master chief is a marine but he has a navy rank


I dont remember that ever being said from the game(s) or any of the books...?

The Navy has all sorts of fun stuff, they arent limited to just boats. look at the SEALs. As I recall, and correct me if I am wrong, John 117 was 'selected' by Dr. Halsey and the then Lieutenant Keyes, a Navy Officer. his training was conducted by Chief Petty Officer Mendez, a Navy enlisted man. All of the Drill Instructors from their boot camp were also Navy.

  • 04.02.2005 11:42 AM PDT