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Subject: 7he 7rue number of Halos!
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, light travels one million miles in one Earth year. (I know these aren't the correct statistics, but just bear with me.) Now let's assume that Reach takes twice as long as Earth to get around its sun. In one Reach light year, the light will have traveled twice as far, two million miles. GS very well could have been talking about Earth light years, but don't rule out the possibility of his using a different planet as his point of reference.

  • 07.05.2004 6:18 PM PDT

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That's a decent explanation.

  • 07.05.2004 6:20 PM PDT
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Geronimo good point that throws another hitch in finding the number of Halos threw mathmatical reasoning

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  • 07.05.2004 6:20 PM PDT

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Since the speed of light is constant, and we would know how long a year is on threshold, the conversion from threshold light years to earth light years would be simple math. Don't say things like telling me to think it through before I answer, you just sound like an a$$.

Not that it would make a difference because you really couldnt know which one he was talking about. All I'm saying is, if you know which one he's talking about, you'd still be able to figure it out.

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First off, now you are changing your story because you were proven wrong, that makes you sound more like an ass, I was simply trying to save you the embarrassment. I never said the conversion would be difficult, only that the estimates before were suspect because whe didn't know which planets year to base it off of, I proved my point with simple math, and now you get defensive. Grow up and don't call people an ass unless you can figure out what you are talking about.
Posted by: Nelo Angelo
Since the speed of light is constant, and we would know how long a year is on threshold, the conversion from threshold light years to earth light years would be simple math. Don't say things like telling me to think it through before I answer, you just sound like an a$$.

Not that it would make a difference because you really couldnt know which one he was talking about. All I'm saying is, if you know which one he's talking about, you'd still be able to figure it out.

  • 07.05.2004 6:24 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

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Coming up with a completely different scenario doesn't prove what I'm saying wrong. You just added a completely new dimension to the argument to get around the fact that I was right. Stop pointing fingers and grow up, no one needs to go around telling people who is wrong and who is right.

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Nelo is correct.

  • 07.05.2004 6:27 PM PDT

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You said - "Unless Light travels at different speed on different planets...which...um...isn't likely to say the least, a Light year is a light year."
I proved you wrong. (As did Geronimo)
No new scenarios, just a hypothesis that GS could have been talking about a different measurement.
Stop being an idiot and get back to the topic, You were wrong, two people proved it, it's over.

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  • 07.05.2004 6:30 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

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Geronimo came up with something completely new that we weren't even considering before, don't jump on his back because you couldn't figure out what I was saying. If you want it to be over, stop responding now and we can let this go.

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Well if you would be a little clearer about it than "Unless Light travels at different speed on different planets...which...um...isn't likely to say the least, a Light year is a light year."
Then we could have been over it a while ago, that was the only thing I was arguing against, is that we never knew for certain what planets seasonal cycle he was using. But I digress I will end it too, Just be a little more careful with your posts and read everything fully.

  • 07.05.2004 6:35 PM PDT

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Sigh....but of course. Anyhow, anyone else think it's interesting that maybe the other "installations" are very different from the one we saw in the first game....

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What if it was something like a Mandlebrot Set of installations? You have the Hub sets, that maybe send signal, and have a wide area of their own, and then Spoke sets that concentrate in the cracks?

  • 07.05.2004 6:41 PM PDT

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What if their are much much bigger installations that cover far greater reaches of space?

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But I think the disk shaped idea for the discharge still works better. The disks would overlap plenty, and only the life inside the rings would survive? Maybe even other species that the Forerunner was studying? Like Humans? I would explain why they have a firing of the Halo 100,000 years ago and the gap in our own genetic history.

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You guys are all crazy, not really but you are putting way too much thought into this. If GS was using a different lightyear thing he would have said so, like when he said how long it's been since halo was last fired. 100 thousand some local years. The lightyears he were talking about are the ones we use. end of that

The number of halos is seven. How could it not. It has to be seven, why on god's green earth would Bungie have a different amount. they figured out how big the galaxy was and then figured out the radius of the pulse based on there being seven halos. Just serioulsy think about that, there's no reason they would choose 8,9,13 or anything else. I'm trying to dig up some old post at HBO that has a bunch of diagrams supporting this because I know you guys won't stop argueing your points cuz all I did was use simple logic. Have fun going crazy with your math equations while I find this post.

  • 07.05.2004 6:45 PM PDT

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Yep that seems to be the best explanation of things, the Noah's ark Theory.

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Posted by: Nelo Angelo
What if their are much much bigger installations that cover far greater reaches of space?


This idea is pretty spot on, as the Monitor says "this installation has a radius", not "installations" or "radius for these are"

  • 07.05.2004 6:46 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

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You guys are all crazy, not really but you are putting way too much thought into this. If GS was using a different lightyear thing he would have said so, like when he said how long it's been since halo was last fired. 100 thousand some local years. The lightyears he were talking about are the ones we use. end of that

The number of halos is seven. How could it not. It has to be seven, why on god's green earth would Bungie have a different amount. they figured out how big the galaxy was and then figured out the radius of the pulse based on there being seven halos. Just serioulsy think about that, there's no reason they would choose 8,9,13 or anything else. I'm trying to dig up some old post at HBO that has a bunch of diagrams supporting this because I know you guys won't stop argueing your points cuz all I did was use simple logic. Have fun going crazy with your math equations while I find this post.


Sounds about right. Okay you win.

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There could be a huge ring in the center, and three top and bottom. Thus the illustrious number 7. Kind of like the color mixing charts? Overlap 3 CDs eqilaterally, then put a big saucer in the middle, It would have the basic shape of an elliptical galaxy, But there arelarge gaps left this way. Wouldn't work but I'm posting it anyway to show it won't. Well not if the 6 had similar properties to 004.

  • 07.05.2004 6:50 PM PDT

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Damn I wanted to do it on my own...i already had it down to eight! Oh well, I most certainly agree that Bungie would opt for the 7 theory, but it still doesn't disprove the fact that maybe some other "installations" fire greater distances or (this is me being nice) GS maybe wasn't using "earth" years.

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I forgot about the girth thing, If Halos fire spherically, then he's got it. If they fire in a concentric ring, then it will be a huge multiple.

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One more thing, the 04 thing. the 0 wouldn't be needed if there was only seven halos. but haveing atleast 10 halos like I said before just wouldn't make sense. They'res most likely more installations but they don't send out a pulse like the Halos do. They could even be Halos which would mean there are more than seven. But there is no way of figuring out how many there are than, only how many send out a pulse. Even then though it still kinda takes away from the seven thing.

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Nice talking and arguing ;) with everyone. Good Night. I have to go to work at 5:00AM and I'm not happy about it.

  • 07.05.2004 6:55 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

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Here's my new theory. Somebody at Bungie will decide, most likely the one with 7, and that will be that, no matter what. Why? Because they can and they make Halo and no one else. I can just feel the Mods laughing at me and my futility in discerning the secrets of the Halo universe....

  • 07.05.2004 6:58 PM PDT

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