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Subject: Human Pistol + Assault Rifle = Battle Rifle(Replacement of them both)
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Accuracy, range and zoom of the pistol added with the Assaut Rifles' ammo(calibre) and automatic fire capability(3 rnd burst unzoomed)
Any human type pistol in H2 problably wont be the old one from H1 at least since it won't have the same attributes( I would just call it a whole new pistol).

  • 07.05.2004 6:21 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

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Pretty much says it all.

  • 07.05.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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that's a good theory, since ppl have been complaining about the overpowered pistol, and the underpowered AR, so bungie is probabaly balancing it out with the BR.

  • 07.05.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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im so sory but no else cares and for righ now olny i repiled i wonder why it seemes like a good topic?

  • 07.05.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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I need a weapon.

Actually, the BR replaces the Pistol ONLY and the SMG relpaces the AR ONLY! . . .YOURE WRONG!

  • 07.05.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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i think ur right ppl are taking about a different pistol in halo 2 but who would use it over the BR

  • 07.05.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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good more pepol came they werent ther when i typed thath PLEASE DIS RE GARD THE !st reply

  • 07.05.2004 6:26 PM PDT
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I dont think the SMG was a replacement for anything, that it was just a new toy. I do see the similarity between the AR and the SMG. But one is a rifle while the other is a sub-machine gun. cant replace on another. SO IM RIGHT!


[Edited on 7/5/2004 6:29:57 PM]

  • 07.05.2004 6:26 PM PDT
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I need a weapon.

the SMG is improved over the AR because now the fully auto type weapon can be dual weilded

  • 07.05.2004 6:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: skum4182
the SMG is improved over the AR because now the fully auto type weapon can be dual weilded


skum look at my edit of reply above

  • 07.05.2004 6:32 PM PDT
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nope . . . they made it an SMG so that it could be dual wielded and twice as powerful . . . i ask u this: y would u need 2 weapons that do exactly the same thing? the answer: u dont . . . so goodbye AR

  • 07.05.2004 6:36 PM PDT
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Dual Wielding is for more than just the SMG. Stop using that like it counts. One weapon vs. one weapon only here. And besides the Sub-machine gun is in a class of its own for both type of weapon and the fact there wasnt one in H1. A rifle is a rifle and an smg is a smg.

  • 07.05.2004 6:40 PM PDT
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I wouldn't count on the AR leaving though, in multiplayer i think all the weapons will be available, and the weapon settings will be more specific. that way it would be more fun for ppl who wanted a challenge without having to deal with n.oobs using cheap weapons.

[Edited on 7/5/2004 6:42:00 PM]

  • 07.05.2004 6:40 PM PDT
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Except the Magnum Pistol and SMG are more than likely going to be in Halo 2. The BR doesn't have to replace anything just fit in and be balanced.

  • 07.05.2004 6:42 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

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Except the Magnum Pistol and SMG are more than likely going to be in Halo 2. The BR doesn't have to replace anything just fit in and be balanced.


I'd like to see the magnum pistol but where would that leave the Shotgun...I mean i guess you could point out a lot of differences but essentially they would both be the same close range "big" gun.

  • 07.05.2004 6:44 PM PDT
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exactly

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Posted by: Shadow_WarriorX
Except the Magnum Pistol and SMG are more than likely going to be in Halo 2. The BR doesn't have to replace anything just fit in and be balanced.


Anything is possible with Bungie. I was going with what I thought I heard in the past about how the pistol was too powerful and the AR to weak and innacurate, and that the BR was the answer to this delima.

  • 07.05.2004 6:46 PM PDT
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The magnum would be a better midrange gun with stopping power at nice distances but with very slow rate of fire whereas the Shotgun is being descriped as a one shot kill weapon upclose.

  • 07.05.2004 6:46 PM PDT
Subject: uhh no...
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Where are people getting this information from. I think they are getting it from non-bungie sites.

Obviously this won't be the last time someone says this.

But the BR does not replace anything, someone else has a damn good theory on it though, in the long run the BR will replace the AR, they said it would be logistically sound to see less and less of the AR as you play threw HALO2.

The SMG doesn't replace anything, it is the man portable bullet hose. "What i need to spraysome ammo over there!!! okay trust SMG do your thing!!!"

Bungie has not said that they are replacing anything, when asked about the pistol, they replied "no comment" with an evil grin. I'm guessing they are doing something clever with the pistol itself, but they are not replacing it with anything. Or maybe they are, but it isn't being replaced with a BR. That much is true.

  • 07.05.2004 6:48 PM PDT
Subject: Human Pistol + Assault Rifle = Battle Rifle(Replacement of them both)

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

Yeah I could see some subtleties that would make gameplay more complex...I really just like the idea of a magnum round plowing right through an Elite's shields and into it's head.

  • 07.05.2004 6:48 PM PDT
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The game is called combat evolved if dey did have a magnum it wouldnt be da same one we see in other games maybe it would be better maybe it woulnt

  • 07.05.2004 6:57 PM PDT
Subject: uhh yes
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Posted by: Java Bean
Where are people getting this information from. I think they are getting it from non-bungie sites.

Obviously this won't be the last time someone says this.

But the BR does not replace anything, someone else has a damn good theory on it though, in the long run the BR will replace the AR, they said it would be logistically sound to see less and less of the AR as you play threw HALO2.

The SMG doesn't replace anything, it is the man portable bullet hose. "What i need to spraysome ammo over there!!! okay trust SMG do your thing!!!"

Bungie has not said that they are replacing anything, when asked about the pistol, they replied "no comment" with an evil grin. I'm guessing they are doing something clever with the pistol itself, but they are not replacing it with anything. Or maybe they are, but it isn't being replaced with a BR. That much is true.


I wasnt going by what I heard from forum members. But from what I heard from streaming interviews from people that work for Bungie although I dont recall in the back of my head where I saw it.(Documentary?, Pete Parson(is that his name?,) I dont remember :/

  • 07.05.2004 6:57 PM PDT
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Also Gameinformer Magizine I heard is confirming this.(is a Forum discovery)if you guys check your sources for me on the BR replacing the need for the Pistol and AR, post the links in your replys to this. Thanx.

  • 07.05.2004 7:05 PM PDT
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Look in the FAQ at this site! The Battle Rifle is a evolved version of the old MA5B (look in the books the spartans were using that in 2525).

  • 07.05.2004 7:09 PM PDT
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I really doubt that the assault rifle and the "classic pistol" will be in the game, no matter what bungie says. The magnum pistol i'm sure will be very powerful, have a high kickback/low fire rate, and no scope. the battle rifle just seems like a much better assault rifle, since the AR really sucked at what it was meant to do (bullet hose). the SMG just seems awesome, I can;t wait to use doubles or plasma pistol/SMG.

  • 07.05.2004 7:15 PM PDT

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