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Subject: should you think the pistol really return?
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kinda. not that much though.

  • 07.06.2004 12:07 AM PDT
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I think that the pistol is just a stupid gun.....and U remember what i said the pistol never made halo.

  • 07.06.2004 12:08 AM PDT
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no but it contributed to halo, every tiny particle in haalo is important.

  • 07.06.2004 12:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: METALSPY
I think that the pistol is just a stupid gun.....and U remember what i said the pistol never made halo.


Well yea I get what you mean. but you cant just take the pistol out of the game without a replacement. I'm hoping the BR will do that.

  • 07.06.2004 12:10 AM PDT
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in respose to some dumbass named MC420, who thinks weed is god...
the BR has 36 rounds dumbass.
i swear i said 12 shots...like in 12 shots of 3 rounds. wait! 3x12?! holy -blam!-, that equals 36!
way to point out the last thing you had to decipher in my post...oh, wait, 12 shots[of three] and 12 rounds! do you get it yet?

lol. how is there much skill in using an assault rifle or a shotgun? they fire multiple bullets. the pistol is single shot.
and to do the same to you...holy crap! the pistol shoots multiple bullets too! it can shoot 12 before you have to reload. OMG WTF?!

  • 07.06.2004 12:10 AM PDT
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Well yea I get what you mean. but you cant just take the pistol out of the game without a replacement. I'm hoping the BR will do that.[/quote]

True that now i get what u mean..
That gun just needs to be reworked..

  • 07.06.2004 12:12 AM PDT
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it is a single shot pistol. an example of a multiple shot pistol is a Mac 11.

  • 07.06.2004 12:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: kazoo
in respose to some dumbass named MC420, who thinks weed is god...
the BR has 36 rounds dumbass.
i swear i said 12 shots...like in 12 shots of 3 rounds. wait! 3x12?! holy -blam!-, that equals 36!
way to point out the last thing you had to decipher in my post...oh, wait, 12 shots[of three] and 12 rounds! do you get it yet?

lol. how is there much skill in using an assault rifle or a shotgun? they fire multiple bullets. the pistol is single shot.
and to do the same to you...holy crap! the pistol shoots multiple bullets too! it can shoot 12 before you have to reload. OMG WTF?!


Erm... he just didnt understand what you meant, no need to flame him

And I think he meant the AR was automatic, and the shotgun spreads out.

and in my opinion it dosent take any more skill to kill someone with a shotgun then with a pistol.

  • 07.06.2004 12:14 AM PDT
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mc420........not that much "though" huh ...........kinda........

  • 07.06.2004 12:16 AM PDT
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ya. kinda, since the shotgun is delayed.

  • 07.06.2004 12:17 AM PDT
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what u mean delayed?????

  • 07.06.2004 12:18 AM PDT
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And I think he meant the AR was automatic, and the shotgun spreads out.

yeah, i know. he didnt understand what i said and called me a dumbass, so i called him a dumbass and acted like i didnt understand what he said...its supposed to be kinda funny...

and the shotgun doesnt take skill, but you can be skillful with it. if i use the shotgun, ill go AR, switch when i get close or after i run out of ammo if im invinso from the OS, then switch, and suprise! i get some more kills. ratrace is good for that...just shoot down the OS when peeps are around, and go on a 5 second killing spree[hint-3 or more kills-i really hate explaining my posts]

  • 07.06.2004 12:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: kazoo
And I think he meant the AR was automatic, and the shotgun spreads out.

yeah, i know. he didnt understand what i said and called me a dumbass, so i called him a dumbass and acted like i didnt understand what he said...its supposed to be kinda funny...

and the shotgun doesnt take skill, but you can be skillful with it. if i use the shotgun, ill go AR, switch when i get close or after i run out of ammo if im invinso from the OS, then switch, and suprise! i get some more kills. ratrace is good for that...just shoot down the OS when peeps are around, and go on a 5 second killing spree[hint-3 or more kills-i really hate explaining my posts]


sry I dont catch sarcasm very well =P

  • 07.06.2004 12:27 AM PDT
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It was cool chatting with u guys see ya later.

  • 07.06.2004 12:30 AM PDT
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I think that it should be made less powerful, with no scope, and burst fire only

  • 07.06.2004 12:33 AM PDT
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has anyone else noticed this? in the first halo, the standard human weapons are the assault rifle and the pistol. bungie realized the pistol was too powerful and the assault rifle too weak. (maybe not so weak, but weaker than most people would like.) so, in halo 2, they will fix that; so basically switch the weapons.
pistol will be replaced by the all new battle rifle...similarities--- same rate of fire, about same power, same zoom
the assault rifle will be replaced by the SMG's....similarities--- smg less powerful, but higher rate of fire, plus dual wielding.
im not with bungie or anything, that was just what ive seen and heard. and it totaly makes sense also. im hoping they keep the pistol, but change it by making it less powerful, give it a new look, and maybe even taking the zoom off. this way youll have a great set of human weapons, sniper--- battle rifle---smg---shotgun---pistol--- and maybe more.

  • 07.06.2004 12:37 AM PDT
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my bad, people have noticed

  • 07.06.2004 12:46 AM PDT
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bcarv21

no no one noticed.
hopefully this guy gets sarcasm.

so yeah, for the purpose of dual weilding they made the pistol two handed and the AR one handed, and ended up with the BR and the SMG.

edit-nevermind

[Edited on 7/6/2004 12:50:56 AM]

  • 07.06.2004 12:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: METALSPY
The reason why u people are all into the pistol is because thats the only gun ur good with......(who isn't good with that pistol)
=Now i see, I aint that blind=


Actually, no it is the only gun I am good with.

I am an expert sniper/ sharpshooter with the S2 AM. (I'd tell you my best success story, but this is neither the time nor place to do so)
I'm a major pain in the ass with the MA5B. Especially against those who have the M6D.
I can fire the Plasma Pistol faster than a Jackal and have a 73% accuracy with it up to 60 meters.
Don't mess with me when I have a shotgun between 0 and 40 meters
The Plasma Rifle is another specialty of mine, people die by it often.
I don't need the M19 SSM, but I can lead targets from across the map and still hit them.
I'm pretty darn good with the Needler, I piss a lot of people off when I use it.
And I can kill a person no problem with 3-5 shots from the M6D.

So I don't know what the hell yuo are talking about when you don't even know our skill levels METALSPY and until you actually do I recommend shuting up.

  • 07.06.2004 9:17 AM PDT
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The pistol wasn't too powerful people it was in there for balance, & balance it did. If you take out the pistol you would ruin the gameplay, just think about it. The shotgun is more affective at point blank, AR close, plasma pistol short-med.,sniper= long rang, plasma rifle short 2 med. This is what you would have with no pistol, notice something wrong, of course you do there is no med 2 long range weapon above b/c the pistol isn't mentioned. Also I heard someone say that the pistol is for new players.......uh NO. Most newbies use the sniper, cus they are not smart enough to use the pistol, it takes skill people, & all those who are complaining just shut up, & stop whining b/c better players have mastered the art of the pistol & you haven't nor probably will b/c your to busy whining about gettin' dealt with & owned by people who do use it. Grow up it's a game, deal w/ the pistol. I guess I should start whining to & make a thread about how snipers shoot me from afar & how I didn't know where it came from & how cheap it is, but guess what it's a SNIPER RIFLE it's supposed to do that. It's also the future so I'm guessing I may be wrong but don't you think that pistols would've evolved a bit & gotten stronger, of course they have, so next time you get killed by one remember that it is a futuristic weapon, & not a modern day pistol going up against a spartan w/ hi-tech sheilds.Please read this & stop making new threads that show how big of a wuss you are. Btw as mentioned above, read the books it mentions a new pistol, magnum type power, & it's stronger, whaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaaaa. whaaaaaaaaa, you will all whine now, & I'll kill off all the whiners while they try to kill me w/sniper & shotgun fire. Have I wonderful day & try not to whine next time a guy w/ a pistol gives you a facial.lol :P

  • 07.06.2004 9:57 AM PDT
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I <3 the pistol...uh...ah, I mean, ahhhhh...The pistol was kick ass! Yah! That's right.

  • 07.06.2004 10:07 AM PDT
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Here's what I ithnk should be done to the pistol before it is returned to the game. It should no longer be a long range weapon. Take out the scope, lower the damage slightly, give it a real melee attack (mind you, the first one looked bloody cool), give it a few more bullets in the clip, and allow it to be pulled from the holster more quickly. Just to clarify my last point, you know when you switch guns, you have to go through a short animation of pulling your gun out. What I'm saying, is have the pistol come out almost instantly, so it is a good gun to go to if your fisrt gun has run out of it's clip. So the pistol is now just a starting gun, used when you have poor reload control.

  • 07.06.2004 10:12 AM PDT
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reason why the pistol was overpowerd...because it was good from short to long range. it killed everything except at point blank range, where a plasma weapon or shotgun or AR could kill it. and it was overpowered, doesnt mean we dont know how to use it. all it means is that the best of the best can try to run arcross BG and die in one and a half seconds of some piece of crap player that can use the pistol. if you can use the pistol, you will get a kill...or at least come a lot closer.

the needler wasnt there for balance obviously...to balance it bungie made it better and dual weildable in halo2, so i expect if they can make a weapon to weak, they can make one to powerful.

and newbies? you know what they use? well crap, no wonder you think you kick so much ass at halo1, it sounds like thats a common opponent for you. because if you dont play a lot of newbies, how else would you be able to tell what MOST newbies use?

heres a scematic of why the pistol was overpowered...

SHORT MEDIUM LONG
pistol range [________________________________________________________]
SR Range [_____________________]
Shotgun [_________]
AR [___________________]
Ppistol [__________________]

Notice how the pistol is goof in like every range, nearly...
oh, and i got this graph from the "book of facts", so there is no use arguing.

  • 07.06.2004 10:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rower
Here's what I ithnk should be done to the pistol before it is returned to the game. It should no longer be a long range weapon. Take out the scope, lower the damage slightly, give it a real melee attack (mind you, the first one looked bloody cool), give it a few more bullets in the clip, and allow it to be pulled from the holster more quickly. Just to clarify my last point, you know when you switch guns, you have to go through a short animation of pulling your gun out. What I'm saying, is have the pistol come out almost instantly, so it is a good gun to go to if your fisrt gun has run out of it's clip. So the pistol is now just a starting gun, used when you have poor reload control.
The scope was one of the only reasons I used it. It was my poor man's sniper rifle.

  • 07.06.2004 10:19 AM PDT

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