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Subject: SMG=ASSAULT RIFLE
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if you havew noticed in the demonstrations the smg has the same reticule, rate of fire, rounds per clip, and accuracy and from a logical guess it does the same damage as the assault rifle

so if any of you are excited about shooting the smg dont get your hopes up u have shot it about a million times already post your thoughts if you agree with me or not

[Edited on 7/6/2004 12:00:50 AM]

  • 07.05.2004 11:54 PM PDT

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Nope. You're wrong about rate of fire and the accuracy. They're different guns.

  • 07.05.2004 11:56 PM PDT
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I thought it had a faster rate of fire....

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accuracy is the same, you are right on that. the rate of fire is supposedly higher. and it would be a guess that they are pretty close damage wise. the SMG is one handed as well, so you can have 2 at once, unlike an AR. and yes to your big question, the AR is gone and the SMG is replacing it.

kinda like my last post on the forum about the battlerifle and pistol...but dont argue that here, go read my post and argue there.

  • 07.06.2004 12:00 AM PDT
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and when you have two there are two reticuls one inside the other

  • 07.06.2004 12:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Zels
I thought it had a faster rate of fire....

It does. He's wrong about a few things. But I think he is right about the accuracy. If you look closely on the E3 video, you can see how the bullets fired from the SMG hit a surface in random areas, just like the Assault Rifle.

I might add that since the SMG fires faster than the AR, it might be stronger than the AR.

[Edited on 7/6/2004 12:31:17 AM]

  • 07.06.2004 12:30 AM PDT
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i just looked at the vid it does fire slightly faster but thats it

  • 07.06.2004 12:36 AM PDT
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jeez. ok look: the SMG has a higher rate of fire than the assult rifle but is less accurate. I'm not sure about damage.

  • 07.06.2004 12:42 AM PDT
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Why would bungie make the same mistake twice

  • 07.06.2004 12:45 AM PDT

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The SMg is also completely different when dual wielded making it even more different than the AR.It makes it more inaccurate and has a recoil I think.

  • 07.06.2004 12:46 AM PDT
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If it were the same gun, they wouldn't just give it a different skin, they'd keep it the same. It is a different gun and it will be different.

  • 07.06.2004 12:51 AM PDT
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If it were the same gun, they wouldn't just give it a different skin, they'd keep it the same. It is a different gun and it will be different.


unless they wanted the old gun to be dual weildable...and maybe give it a higher rate of fire to make it better. but keep it pretty damn close so we technically have the AR to use.

and who said same mistake?! did you mean the gun entirely? well -blam!-, i guess if bungie is in the business of not making mistakes, itll just have the pistol as the only weapon to choose from in halo2...makes sense, huh?

i hope you didnt mean it like that, i really do.

  • 07.06.2004 12:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pistolero 004
Why would bungie make the same mistake twice

they figureed pout the AR was a good SMG

  • 07.06.2004 1:02 AM PDT
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Plus the SMG can zoom if you watched the Kikizo E3 demo where they showed lots of other new features no one seems to talk about..

  • 07.06.2004 6:41 AM PDT
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It cant zoom you have zoom bulit into your visor... but cant shoot when zoomed in..

  • 07.06.2004 6:46 AM PDT
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this is a stupid thread. look the smg is going to be more like an smg in real life... less accurate and faster fire, duel wielding which changes everything, and it doesnt matter for damage because u spray a hundred rounds a second anyway. think of it as splitting up the AR into the combat rifile, slower rof than the AR byt more accurate and powerful, and the SMG, fater rof but less accuracy and power

  • 07.06.2004 6:50 AM PDT
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I got to play the demo at E3 and I must say there are definately some differences between the assault rifle and the SMG. First off, the rate of fire is noticably higher. The accuracy might be similar, but this does not render the gun worthless. You DEFINATELY want to have one of these when duel wielding. Having this is one hand and the needler in the other makes for a deadly combo. You can see this in the demo too. The reason being, you can fire both at the same time, the SMG will bring armor down, and by that time the needles will being to explore, destroying your opponent. When you do this at mid to close range, your opponent drops almost instantly. Otherwise, the SMG is not all that better than the Assault rifle, but it is an improvement.

  • 07.06.2004 8:18 AM PDT
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Thing is, our good ol' MC can hold an AR with one hand easily. Check all the cinmatics in Halo, and I believe in one of the books, the MCis described as carrying an AR s though it were no lighter than a pistol. Which and which page, i'm too lazy to check.

  • 07.06.2004 8:35 AM PDT
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And plus...The SMG looks cooler

  • 07.06.2004 8:46 AM PDT
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Dood 2 words: Dual Weild (even if it is practically the same gun, we get double it this time)

  • 07.06.2004 8:49 AM PDT
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You want to know the real difference?

One is a SUB MACHINE GUN

The other is a ASSUALT RIFLE



[Edited on 7/6/2004 8:50:59 AM]

  • 07.06.2004 8:50 AM PDT