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Subject: Prophets downfall

ok, let me restate my statement. since all the creatures in halo are not real, they are all stupid. the AI is not as smart as a real person. nevertheless, if all those creatures were real, i am pretty sure the grunt would be smarter than all the other covenant i've seen except for whenit comes to battle tactics and strategies. just because they panic when they are in trouble doesn't mean they are stupid.

also, gruntkiller117, your argument was entirely a fallacy of ad hominem, so you have proven nothing.

[Edited on 4/22/2004 6:55:05 PM]

  • 04.22.2004 6:50 PM PDT
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lmao lmao. By the way whoever dissed me on the first page is wrong. I correct the wrong. And meshnaster u have got to be smooooooooookkinggg something. I know u haven't read the books from what I'm about to prove u wrong in. If grunts are so smart why are they so low ranking. The prophets care nothing of the grunts they use them because they can. If u read the books then u would know what stupid mistake of a grunt and the grunt would be given to jackals to be tortured to death. They are not smart okk-blam!-. Their planet was conquered by the covenant. They are slaves. Read the book u idiot. I do not post blam. I talk about the topic and I can't ignorant theories like the grunts being smart and designing all the covenant weapons. U are reeeeeeeeetttttaaaaaarrrrrddddeeddd. If u read my first post and the books u would know that the prophets obtained the forerunner technology to create an advanced civilization and government and a ruthless military. U probably just play halo and think ur smart enough to say a logical theory. that is by far the dumbest theory I have heard on bungie forums ever. I don't like to criticize but u people need to know what u are talking about. I suggest learning before teaching.

  • 04.22.2004 8:00 PM PDT
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oh ya one more thing, if the grunts had no field tactics/strategies they are not going to be smart or logical/intelligent thinkers. ok there.

  • 04.22.2004 8:03 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

Enough! No more insults! No more accusations! Mesh seems to be a little bit misinformed about the Grunts, yes (no offense, mesh). But you don't need to say "you've got to be smoooooooking something." Just stop already! So what if he's wrong? Just say so, and plainly!

And saying things like "get a life," "you guys don't have lives," and such is terribly invalid. The fact that someone writes a lot, or goes way deeper into topics than most others is irrelevant! I've gone deep, I've written a lot, but I also do much outside the forums. I doubt anyone here thinks the forum as their life. Some people have more time on their hands than others, some use the little time they have, and some make time. Don't make dumb assumptions that aren't based on anything.

  • 04.22.2004 8:18 PM PDT

Posted by: gruntkiller117
oh ya one more thing, if the grunts had no field tactics/strategies they are not going to be smart or logical/intelligent thinkers. ok there.


einstein had no field tactics. neither did leonardo da vinci. c.s. lewis.

so maybe grunts didn't create the weapons. i have read 2 of the books, but i don't remember in such depth as you seem to have. i read them more for fun than for a history of the covenant. i guess the grunts were forced to fight against their will, but i still think that grunts are intellegent. all the other creatures seem to be acting on instinct. grunts have the ability to make decisions more than the other covenant do.

but maybe prophets are smarter. like i said, i don't know much about them.

anyway, it is much easier to analyze behavior in the game than in the books, and inteligence would have more to do with their behavior than how they joined the covenant.

[Edited on 4/22/2004 9:02:40 PM]

  • 04.22.2004 8:59 PM PDT
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gruntkiller the way you are behaving in here is unimaginably irritating. He has a valid point, and I actually agree with him. Grunts are nervous little people, and poor fighters. That is why they are the lowest rank. This has NOTHING to do with their intelligence level! Let's say you have an I.Q. off the charts gruntkiller(in a good way). How would you react if an enemy super soldier:
A) threw a plasma grenade at your head
B) began opening fire with his lethal accuracy
C) began chasing you for a nice smacking(keep in mind you cant run because there is a giant methane tank on your back)

I doubt that you would remain calm and collected, you would likely panic, just like the grunts.

  • 04.22.2004 9:14 PM PDT
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O, I must be wrong, gruntkiller! CORRECT ME! Please?!

Don't act like you're such a Halo QUEEN, because you're not.
I guess you know more about Halo than everybody else in this forum since you're a -blam!- towards anybody that doesn't know as much as you, Because you must know A LOT about Halo and prophets and grunts!!!

  • 04.22.2004 9:26 PM PDT
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Actually, I think da Vinci may have known a thing or two about battle. He actually DESIGNED some war machines!

  • 04.22.2004 9:29 PM PDT
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Yes Davinci did. But no one really ever used a giant sized magnifying glass to kill people, or bat like helicopter. Da vinci was more of an artisit, than a person who'd look for area's which needed improvement.

It would be nice if humanity saved the Grunts from the Covenant in Halo 2. Imagine how greatfull they'd be?

  • 04.23.2004 1:23 PM PDT
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I did overeact a little but I am not ashamed of myself. Why do u other people then feel it is ok to turn around and blam me. Anyway I do feel very irritated by what I said but several people were wrong. Also about the tactics, U guys didn't understand what i was thinking. Not just battle tactics. Its how they think. The grunts are very ignorant and are not complex thinkers. People who r awesome at chess r complex thinkers and intelligent. The point is anyone who is a good thinker would/should be able to use tactics in any thinking situation. Get the point because I hope so. I also do not state fallacy. U guys got that word from spelling whiz. I make statements like that to prove my knowledge and to correct and teach. Do not blam me. I know I overreacted but meshnaster was talking trash to me in his previous statements. I hopefully will not do that again. But I do love discussing these topics. Oh ya I do have a life by the way. I play just about every sport there is and play chess and other cool things. I am not sorry for overacting towards meshnaster. But I apologize to the people who wasted their time reading mine and meshnasters arguments.

  • 04.23.2004 5:33 PM PDT
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i agree with dark you guys have no lives

  • 04.23.2004 5:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: neverlandvictim
i agree with dark you guys have no lives
Yes I do. I play just about every sport u can think of and I'm good at them all except for golf k. I'm not a nerd either. But u have nothing to talk about. Ur post had no point except to agree with something thats not even true. I'm not sure about everyone else but I have a life. I also like video games and since I love video games I love halo and halo2. Don't make posts like that. That post was a fallacy.

  • 04.26.2004 2:37 PM PDT

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