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Subject: Little kids should not play or be part of bungie (under the age of 17)
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Okay, you cannot go to every person, ask if they have a Mature game, and then ask their age. If someone's parents want to by a Mature game for them, let them, it is their responsibility. Yeah, I play Halo and Halo 2, and I am not obsessed with violence or anything.

Dude, it is just a forum website. If they want to be here, who cares? I am only 13 and I love this place. You aren't supposed to flame people or anything, just have discussions. There are people older than me and are far less mature.

  • 04.06.2005 5:40 PM PDT
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In no way is the ESRB rating system to be used as legal buying requirements for any material if you wish to use these as buyer rights you use them as guidelines for your rules not for a basis and we are not to back you up in court unless forced to.That was posted back in 99 by ESRB's founder on their front page when the ESRB rating system was just coming out. Thus, we cannot found any opinion upon that rating system. I myself don't agree with anyone acting immature and I believe that there should be reprocussion for them acting immature, but that is my opinion.

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  • 04.06.2005 6:08 PM PDT
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this is a nasty poll

the M sign is only a raiting not a rule. its a suggestion.

i do agree some M games are deffinitely "M" but games like halo2 are very close to not being M at all i really have only noticed use of bad words 4 times in the entire story of Halo. and they dont even use the BAD bad words.

im 14 and i say 500% less bad words than people who are older on Xbox live.

it is more pleasant to play against kids on Xbox live because there is a lower chance that they will have a bad reaction to shooting them.

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  • 04.06.2005 9:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jaxcell
One example is that kids can insult us and not get a punishment because they might live 1000 miles away.


why would you care if kids dont get punished?
i bet those of you who are above 18 dont get punished.

its not like you are gonna stop people from being immature if you only get rid of the kids.

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  • 04.06.2005 9:34 PM PDT
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I don't like when other kids scream their head off, but since im only 12 & i dont have an annoying voice and like to annoy evryone around me. I'll have to say that all kids should be able to play (even though I dont play Halo 2 much on XBL), unless they are addicted to violence.

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  • 04.07.2005 3:23 AM PDT
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I don't think that the kids should be banned because their not the only ones that use foul language and are poor sportsmen. It would be nice if Bungie would add a feature that allowed you to be in games with people of a certain age though. I can't count how many times I've been teamed with 3 little kids that spend most of their time shooting each other instead of the other team...it's frustrating.

  • 04.07.2005 6:23 AM PDT

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Not all bungie games are rated M. So their is no need for the age limit. You want age limit go to Battleground HAL0. Hope you don't mind the ads or paying to get rid of them.

  • 04.07.2005 11:54 AM PDT
Subject: little kids are stupid but still have some rights
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Listen, Im 14, and i try to respect everybody, especially old guys. i know theyve been through a lot more than me and are probably if not smarter than me wiser. ive seen 10 year olds act like 30 year olds and 30 year olds look like 10 year olds. there is only way to fix this problem. and its gonna be hard to do. i think that after continual complaints about a single person have been filed, that they can be completely banned. something like that may already be in place, but still, its the only way to get rid of certain problem ppl and keep the others.

  • 04.07.2005 12:47 PM PDT
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Listen, Im 14, and i try to respect everybody, especially old guys. i know theyve been through a lot more than me and are probably if not smarter than me wiser. ive seen 10 year olds act like 30 year olds and 30 year olds look like 10 year olds. there is only way to fix this problem. and its gonna be hard to do. i think that after continual complaints about a single person have been filed, that they can be completely banned. something like that may already be in place, but still, its the only way to get rid of certain problem ppl and keep the others.
Im 13 and pretty ofended. i do have a deep voice, nonshouting person, but i do like to cuss alot. but as soo as i see respect going around my team, i try to be the person i am and try to stop acting like a fool. yes ive played with kids that their shouting is just too much to bear. But not all of us are like that. Sometimes i cuss because i get killed by the same person too much, i did something stupid, or theres just a sniper sitting outside the base. i like to team kill, but I only do it unless other/ the other team is doing it. But its a game, ya know? Little kids dont understand the value of winning and losing in typical games of such, but we all gotta make the best of what we got.

  • 04.07.2005 4:04 PM PDT
Subject: Little kids should not play or be part of bungie (under the age of 17)

And what about those of us who are younger than 17 but, are more muture Than most of the "little kids" and even more so than some 17-year olds? Also, how is bungie going to tell how old someone is? And while on the topic theres a new law in california that you have to have a parent with you if your younger than 17 and trying to buy a "M" game...

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  • 04.07.2005 4:42 PM PDT
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The only way you could get rid of "little kids" would to ask what year/month/day they were born on when they made an account.Then they would just make a fake birthday that let them get in(if they were smart enough to do that).But why should kids under 17 be banned in the first place?It's not the age dude it's the maturity.

  • 04.07.2005 6:03 PM PDT
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Septagon is not specifically about Halo 2. Not all Bungie games are rated M, so a restriction like this would not really do anything to help your cause. Even if kids live 1000 miles away, the Bungie staff could suspend accounts or blacklist or whatever they do if the forum posts are obnoxious or rude. And if M means 18+, why should 17 year olds still get the privelege to talk, since they are clearly under 18?

  • 04.07.2005 7:15 PM PDT
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You are right. In fact, I think video games available for online play should not be available to children. (Children being under 17)0
I have thought about his much, and have come to the conclusion that online gaming leads to many things in children, the first of which is failure to take responsibilty and understand the consequences of one's actions. A 12 year old can curse a 29 year old man online and not realize this is not appropiate. But, because no punishment will be imposed, their is no remorse.
Second, children are the one not mature enough to realize it is only a game, not to be taken seriously, and not to be cheated in. A 13 year old boy cannot understand the fact that a ranking in a game is nothing to worry about to the point of making it no fun for some one else who is paying to play.
I think most of the cheating in games can be accounted for by children, and most of the cursing and trash talking also. I think, all around, it would be a better, more fun environment if it were left to people mature enough to handle talking to people hundreds of miles apart. Letting children part take is only feeding this generations already growing characteristics of no morals, responsibility, honor, self respect, and respect for those older than them.

  • 04.07.2005 8:32 PM PDT
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dude im 15 and i couldnt care less what people say thats why bungie put the "MUTE" feature in the game even though i never mute people i like to see how people react when they start to lose

  • 04.08.2005 4:23 PM PDT
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This thread Jaxcel(sp) in itself just shows that you, yourself are are immature and ignorant. not all people under that age of 17 are screaming,cursing, and trashtalking idiots. I am under 17 and I play with many people under 17, even a few under 13 and they never do anything like that. I have heard from many mature(sounding) people a lot of swearing and even a few that said (after i had beaten them, often in h2h) that they were laughing when the twin towers got "bombed" or "knocked down" so i dont think that the age of the person or the pitch of their voice has anything to do with how mature they are it should be determined by their attitude.


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  • 04.08.2005 4:48 PM PDT
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lol im 14 you cant tell me what to do.

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Posted by: foehammer navy
lol im 14 you cant tell me what to do.

Go away, its past your bedtime.

  • 04.08.2005 7:16 PM PDT
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Friends, let us stop the fighting.
The only way is through peace and acceptance.
You must find inner peace to deal with the world.
You must accept that there are things beyond your controll.

-And if you still have a god-damned problem with this, petition Congress.
-Or the FCC
-Or someone who can do something about legal purchases and access to XBL.

  • 04.08.2005 7:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ghandi 2
As much as I dislike hearing screaming little kids, I myself am under 17, so I must say no. I can't change my age, only my maturity. Also, Halo 2 multiplayer related discussions belong in [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=5575]Za nzibar.[/u rl]
Same here.

  • 04.08.2005 7:46 PM PDT
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Yo Halo53, I'm real happy for you and I'ma let you finish, but Beyonce had one of the best bungie.net profiles of all time. OF ALL TIME!

I understand 100% why a lot of people over 17 may feel this way. Hell I was off from school today so I decided to play a lot of ranked games. The amount of jerks and idiots I faced today was amazing. People can't just play to have fun. I play to win, yes, but if I lose and have fun, I don't care. I was cheated, called all sorts of profanity just because my team won by many different people in many different games. If I lose, I say good game and leave. I wouldn't doubt if the majority of these people are under the age of 17. I, myself as I stated before, am 15. None of these people would act this way if they were to actually meet any of us. It's the anonymity of the internet. Even if they are banned, they just use a 2 month free trial and do it again. Not letting people under 17 play the game or go to the forums would not solve the problem. A lot, hell I would even go as far as saying MOST of us are not bad. Just some that ruin it for all.

  • 04.08.2005 8:52 PM PDT

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forget the age limit, just ask a skill testing question, for example:

Are you too stupid to know when to not answer a question?
1) yes
2) no

Press X to continue

where if they select either of the answers before continuing they can not play, the smart ones with either get it right away or right after failing the first time, the rest will whine to tech support and get snubbed. the perfect solution.

  • 04.08.2005 9:57 PM PDT
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I hate these threads... they all turn into "im 12 and im t3h uber mature"
*someone quotes above phrase* "yeah dude im 13 and im t3h uber mature to"

The point is you all suck

  • 04.08.2005 11:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: ðcherryð
I hate these threads... they all turn into "im 12 and im t3h uber mature"
*someone quotes above phrase* "yeah dude im 13 and im t3h uber mature to"

The point is you all suck


Ummm...'Sir' if you read my words correctly you will see none of the qoutes you have just writen. This proves single handedly that you 'Sir' are Immature. Thanks for yor time. I think this case is closed.

  • 04.09.2005 5:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: foehammer navy
lol im 14 you cant tell me what to do.

Go away, its past your bedtime.
shut up

  • 04.09.2005 7:05 AM PDT

Posted by: foehammer navy
Posted by: Texas Ben
Posted by: foehammer navy
lol im 14 you cant tell me what to do.

Go away, its past your bedtime.
shut up

Well, this proves me correct in my previous statement about people of all ages being immature and annoying.

If I remember correctly, you have to be at least 12 or 13 years old to register an account at Bungie.net.

Ya know what everyone needs to do? Stop complaining about generalized groups of people.

  • 04.09.2005 2:41 PM PDT

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